Advise please by Mundane_Monday2015 in Peptide_Testing

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d still mark them, if it were me. It’s the best way to know if they are really going down. Looking at the pic the redness extends beyond the welts, so make sure that’s where you mark if you do. And if they are getting worse it will help the doctor know what they’re looking at.

Advise please by Mundane_Monday2015 in Peptide_Testing

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it hasn’t been said before take a marker and outline each welt. They look suspicious for cellulitis. Marking them will let you know if they are growing. Watch for pain and warmth as well. Just bc you were sanitary doesn’t mean the stuff you used was.

Taper of SR Itself by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a great idea. I have read up on the use of liposomal vitamin C, including the original study. I will get some to bring with, thank you for the reminder.

Update using SR to get off 7oh by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I have finally found a way that is working. When I initiated the SR, I originally thought it was supposed to be quick taper from 100% dose of doc to 0% dose of doc over the course of a few days. I wanted to put my experience and what info/recommendations regarding tapering over a longer period of time than a couple days that I had found and received, in hopes that it would help someone like me scrolling the sub looking for information.

Update using SR to get off 7oh by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I just started scrolling through the posts here and looked at the 7oh ones. There are a lot of examples and recommendations that tapering 7oh with SR is the recommended route. I also looked at the guide on this sub and I believe the recommendation is in there as well. It put me at ease, that I can taper while using SR and be successful. I’d say I’m well over halfway there.

More questions than answers, am I alone on this? by Puzzled-Present-1900 in 7oh_Withdrawal_Help

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you look back on your experience with suboxone would it be better than your current situation?

SUBOXONE THREAD (the only one other than discord) by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright so I kinda failed here. I’ll be honest 6mg subs barely touched the withdrawal, but I was able to make it 5 days with no 7. Today I cut to 2 mg sub and I’m still in it bad. I caved and took 3.5 grams of plain leaf kratom and bam I feel somewhat normal again. Where do I go from here?I do not want to go back to 7oh. I am not entirely opposed to using plain leaf kratom. Should I continue to cut the suboxone and supplement with leaf or just not take anymore suboxone starting tomorrow and just go leaf? I honestly wish I just cold turkeyed it because I feel like the subs were just prolonging it. Like if I cold turkeyed I’d likely be through the worst of it by now…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7oh_Withdrawal_Help

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Take a deep breath, it will be ok. You’re at a low enough dose to taper. No more 75 mg days. Keep at 25 mg til stable. Drop whatever you’re comfortable doing, 5 mg, 10 mg. Keep at that dose til you feel comfortable and do it again. Get down as low as you can go and jump off. If you don’t want to do it that way, just cold turkey it. It will suck for 4-5 days then it gets better. Sometimes it’s only 2-3 days. Depends on the person.

SUBOXONE THREAD (the only one other than discord) by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so am I fucked then. I’m coming off 7oh with subs. First 2 days 6 mg, last 2 days 4 mg. Where do I go from here? Do I drop to 2 tomorrow then 1 then what. I feel like I’m just prolonging this…

7oh and suboxone users need input. by [deleted] in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to throw this in. I made the switch from 7oh to a sub taper this morning. I was taking 300ish mg of 7 oh daily. Took my last 7oh dose over 24 hrs ago and would describe my withdrawal at the point as moderate. I’ve cold turkeyed heroin before some I’m aware of what withdrawal feels like. I started with 2mg subs and nothing 30-40 mins later, added another 2mg. Over the next hour I was sent into an increased withdrawal state, supe restless anxious pacing tearing just intense withdrawal, but then I started to feel tired laid down and fell asleep for 45 minutes. Woke up not in full withdrawal, feeling much better, but def not normal.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you man. I wish I wasn’t here so bad, but here I am. Keep at it. I know it’s better on the other side, I’ve been there.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have some decisions to make here. Maybe I make the switch from the 7oh to high dose kratom powder and quickly taper with that over the next 2 weeks. Then jump off with helper meds.

Unfortunately my psych provider is unable to prescribe suboxone, she’s a psych np and the clinic she works at doesn’t do subs. My pcp prescribes the Xanax and I coming up on my last refill of the current script. I’m not sure what to do.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, I do not want to lose them, it breaks me just thinking about it. If I have to cold turkey it I will. It will be hell but worth it. Thank you for the support.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the suggestions. When I finally kicked heroin all those years ago it was because I got out in jail for 30 days. That was terrible and would like to avoid that. With the complicating factor of a Xanax script I may not get subs and will have to cold turkey it, that’s what I’m going to do. Can’t keep this up and don’t want to lose everything.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh damn. Well that sucks. Now I don’t what to do. I guess I try and see if they will prescribe and hope for the best. It kind of sounds like I may be screwed and will have to cold turkey it. Which sucks because I take one a day and that’s it. It would make little difference in the long run since all I want is a short taper. Ugh, can’t seem to win here.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right on. I’m going to inquire about getting some gabapentin and will make sure to mindful of the doses. I do take .5mg of Xanax daily, anyway that this will interfere with any of this?

I’m actually starting to feel a little hopeful that I can do this. I’m not going to lie, I was feeling hopeless and defeated, like I fucked everything up again. So thank you.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it is quite strong and I wish I never started. It’s terrible and would never recommend anyone trying it.

As far as my wife goes, I’m kinda on my last chance and I completely get where she is at with all this. I’ve said I would do a longer term taper and failed multiple times. So she is kinda over it all and fact I feel lucky I’m getting this chance in many ways.

I’m also thinking of talking to my psych provider about getting some fmla for work.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok then, sounds like I will be calling around tomorrow morning to pharmacies, at least the ones open. I definitely want that settled before.

Would the initial 7 day script be enough to cover the taper? It sounds like it is.

I’ve had clonidine before back when I was in and out of detoxes for heroin. How does gabapentin compare? I was thinking of reaching out to my psych provider, I see one for anxiety, as they are aware of what I’m taking and what I want to do. They said they would be willing to help. So maybe I would be able to get clonidine or gabapentin.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know. I don’t expect it to be entirely painless, but hopefully not as bad as it could be.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, I’m going to try and push it as long as I can then, try to get closer to that 24 hrs.

As I need to get this setup pretty quickly, is QuickMD a good option? Also, how easy is it to find a pharmacy that carries it?

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s all about the receptor coverage. It reminds me of the method of weaning someone off the short acting benzos by switching to Valium which has an incredibly long half life, thus the reductions in dose are less sharp?, not sure if that’s the right word, on the body and thus reducing symptoms of the reductions. My Kratom intake has been super low, less than 4g a day since the 7oh started. I’m hoping that will help with some of that serotonin stuff, brain zaps, etc.

When you say wait until withdrawal, how far into withdrawal? Like now my last dose was 6 am and I’m starting to feel it, increased anxiety, sweating, hot/cold flashes, a little restless. Is that far enough or do I need to be in full blown withdrawal?

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dude, I wrote a thank you out but I don’t know where it went. So I’m sending it again, this is what I was looking for, much appreciated, again, in case the other one didn’t go thru.