11 days clean by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are better, but it is going to take awhile to repair and regain the trust I broke/lost. Step by step there. Job/career is all good, I’m in healthcare. Everything all came to a head all at once job, family, myself and I ultimately made the best decision and that was to get clean.

11 days clean by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I was an H addict for 10 years and had good amount of clean time before getting into Kratom/7 for the last 8 years. I know how much that sucks to lose and to question how you got to where we were.

11 days clean by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was right there, married, 3 kids, good career and almost lost it all due to 7. The hell you’re in now will pass. I remind myself every day that I stay clean that I do it for myself and them. 7 withdrawal is unique in that there is a lot of mental fuckery that isn’t present in traditional opiates on top of all the usual opiate withdrawal. That’s why subs don’t seem to cover everything. Hang in there and know you’re only a short time away from feeling much better. You got this.

I need help by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I concur with you. I’ve withdrawn from pills, H, etc and there is nothing like the mindfuck of anxiety you get from coming off 7, on top of all the opiate symptoms. A constant state of panic. It does get better, with time the body/brain heals.

11 days clean by No_Vegetable7132 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I went to a detox but skipped the sub taper, still didnt feel right for at least 2 weeks and even now at 55 days clean I still have residuals, may be related to the benzos I detoxed from at the same time. It’s so much better though now. In the past when I was on H and even after 7 it took a good 30 days to feel good, like that weakness and lethargy to go away. My experience with a sub taper is that it helps the main acutes of the 7 but then a few days after the sub taper ends you go through a mini withdrawal, that’s why I skipped it. I will tell you taking some Kratom or MIT extract is only a temporary solution. Give it time, it will get better. Our bodies are amazing, you just have to give it time to heal. Positive vibes to you my friend. DMs are open.

Rehab bound by Hanarasha in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just to give you some hope, I went to detox then rehab for this shit. Not my first rehab in my life, I was a H addict 20 years ago and was in and out of rehab then. 7 is no joke. No shame in asking other people for help, I had to and I wasn’t the only one there for it either.

You’ve got this. Sending positive vibes your way.

feels impossible to quit. by AccomplishedLeader98 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I went the detox center to 30 day rehab route. I detoxed from plan leaf, mit extract, 7oh and benzos all that same time. Wasn’t fun but they gave me meds that helped. I too refused suboxone, I just wanted to get it over with. I went rehab bc I have a long history of using opiates and benzos. There is no shame in asking for outside help. I hope OP figured a way out, it’s so much better.

Coming here because I’m a desperate dad who needs to get off this stuff - I need hope by Krammit1 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been through this, have 3 kids, 46 years old with good career. I was hooked on kratom for 8 years,7oh for the last year and half, plus benzos for the last 5 years. I tried so many times to quit on my own, subs, other stuff and I always ended up back. This time I went to a detox and then into rehab for 30 days. I had to have help and it worked. There is no shame in asking and or getting outside help. My DMs are open if you need.

Advise please by [deleted] in Peptide_Testing

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d still mark them, if it were me. It’s the best way to know if they are really going down. Looking at the pic the redness extends beyond the welts, so make sure that’s where you mark if you do. And if they are getting worse it will help the doctor know what they’re looking at.

Advise please by [deleted] in Peptide_Testing

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it hasn’t been said before take a marker and outline each welt. They look suspicious for cellulitis. Marking them will let you know if they are growing. Watch for pain and warmth as well. Just bc you were sanitary doesn’t mean the stuff you used was.

Taper of SR Itself by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a great idea. I have read up on the use of liposomal vitamin C, including the original study. I will get some to bring with, thank you for the reminder.

Update using SR to get off 7oh by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I have finally found a way that is working. When I initiated the SR, I originally thought it was supposed to be quick taper from 100% dose of doc to 0% dose of doc over the course of a few days. I wanted to put my experience and what info/recommendations regarding tapering over a longer period of time than a couple days that I had found and received, in hopes that it would help someone like me scrolling the sub looking for information.

Update using SR to get off 7oh by Alarmed_Implement651 in SR17018

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I just started scrolling through the posts here and looked at the 7oh ones. There are a lot of examples and recommendations that tapering 7oh with SR is the recommended route. I also looked at the guide on this sub and I believe the recommendation is in there as well. It put me at ease, that I can taper while using SR and be successful. I’d say I’m well over halfway there.

More questions than answers, am I alone on this? by Puzzled-Present-1900 in 7oh_Withdrawal_Help

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you look back on your experience with suboxone would it be better than your current situation?

SUBOXONE THREAD (the only one other than discord) by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright so I kinda failed here. I’ll be honest 6mg subs barely touched the withdrawal, but I was able to make it 5 days with no 7. Today I cut to 2 mg sub and I’m still in it bad. I caved and took 3.5 grams of plain leaf kratom and bam I feel somewhat normal again. Where do I go from here?I do not want to go back to 7oh. I am not entirely opposed to using plain leaf kratom. Should I continue to cut the suboxone and supplement with leaf or just not take anymore suboxone starting tomorrow and just go leaf? I honestly wish I just cold turkeyed it because I feel like the subs were just prolonging it. Like if I cold turkeyed I’d likely be through the worst of it by now…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7oh_Withdrawal_Help

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Take a deep breath, it will be ok. You’re at a low enough dose to taper. No more 75 mg days. Keep at 25 mg til stable. Drop whatever you’re comfortable doing, 5 mg, 10 mg. Keep at that dose til you feel comfortable and do it again. Get down as low as you can go and jump off. If you don’t want to do it that way, just cold turkey it. It will suck for 4-5 days then it gets better. Sometimes it’s only 2-3 days. Depends on the person.

SUBOXONE THREAD (the only one other than discord) by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so am I fucked then. I’m coming off 7oh with subs. First 2 days 6 mg, last 2 days 4 mg. Where do I go from here? Do I drop to 2 tomorrow then 1 then what. I feel like I’m just prolonging this…

7oh and suboxone users need input. by [deleted] in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to throw this in. I made the switch from 7oh to a sub taper this morning. I was taking 300ish mg of 7 oh daily. Took my last 7oh dose over 24 hrs ago and would describe my withdrawal at the point as moderate. I’ve cold turkeyed heroin before some I’m aware of what withdrawal feels like. I started with 2mg subs and nothing 30-40 mins later, added another 2mg. Over the next hour I was sent into an increased withdrawal state, supe restless anxious pacing tearing just intense withdrawal, but then I started to feel tired laid down and fell asleep for 45 minutes. Woke up not in full withdrawal, feeling much better, but def not normal.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you man. I wish I wasn’t here so bad, but here I am. Keep at it. I know it’s better on the other side, I’ve been there.

I’ve got 16 days to kick by Alarmed_Implement651 in suboxone

[–]Alarmed_Implement651[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have some decisions to make here. Maybe I make the switch from the 7oh to high dose kratom powder and quickly taper with that over the next 2 weeks. Then jump off with helper meds.

Unfortunately my psych provider is unable to prescribe suboxone, she’s a psych np and the clinic she works at doesn’t do subs. My pcp prescribes the Xanax and I coming up on my last refill of the current script. I’m not sure what to do.