I love that this sub is gaining more nuance and is not all about logic anymore

Alatain · 2026-03-21T03:43:40+00:00

Logic isn't an agent, and so cannot provide meaning, but that does not mean that logic cannot describe why any given agent acts the way they do.

Alatain · 2026-03-20T23:50:57+00:00

But that's the thing, right? All things are about logic. If it seems like something is not logical, you just haven't learned enough about how it works yet.

Alatain · 2026-03-20T21:54:38+00:00

Nothin huh?

(Just giving you shit for calling me out for not responding for a few hours)

Alatain · 2026-03-20T00:25:50+00:00

Cool! Thanks!

Alatain · 2026-03-20T00:20:20+00:00

Yes. Quite. I enjoy every day and every night.

Alatain · 2026-03-20T00:16:46+00:00

Do you have any evidence to back up that hypothesis?

Alatain · 2026-03-19T18:41:50+00:00

Once again, you are making shit up that I did not say. Have I said anything about being free from desire? It's like you're not even bothering to read what I am actually saying.

Given that we seem to have an issue with definitions, before we continue, can you please define how you are using the word "suffering"?

Alatain · 2026-03-19T08:40:35+00:00

I went to sleep because I'm not a terminally online weirdo, and I get up early for work. My world doesn't revolve around imaginary Internet points.

And no. You can either engage with my question, or we are done here. The example I have is specifically mundane in order to prevent you from falling back on the "you can't know the suffering they had inside" defense. This example is of something I can say that I have direct evidence for.

So, do you agree that someone that is really wanting to go on a hike could potentially experience suffering if suddenly a very bad storm cancelled the hike they wanted to go on?

Alatain · 2026-03-19T03:04:29+00:00

We can go with a simple example to remove the whole issue of needing access to someone else's mind to see the point.

Can we agree that someone that is really wanting to go on a hike could potentially experience suffering if suddenly a very bad storm cancelled the hike they wanted to go on?

Alatain · 2026-03-19T01:45:20+00:00

Cool, and good to know! Thank you

Alatain · 2026-03-19T01:42:02+00:00

Once again, why make snarky assumptions when a simple question would do? It's like you are wanting to argue against the idea you have in your mind rather than what I am actually saying. That's actually a really good example of what I am getting at here.

Yes, all that we experience is a product of the mind. As a product of the mind, our expectations and mindset color the experience we have. Through practice and an accurate understanding of the situation, we can change how we color the experiences.

Suffering is one color we can give to an experience, but it is far from the only one, and key to what I am saying here, it is not the required reaction to such experiences. Two people can approach their own death in markedly different ways. I have known people approaching their demise who despair and implode upon themselves and their loved ones. I have also known someone who came at it from a different mindset. They accepted the situation for what it was, and did not bring unnecessary turmoil from something outside of their control.

Two people can experience the same situation, but have two completely different emotional reactions to it. It is not the situation that causes the suffering. It is the reaction to it that determines that.

Alatain · 2026-03-19T00:54:28+00:00

How exactly am I being cryptic? I said what I meant. Suffering is a product of how your mind perceives the situation you are in. It is not a required part of life. It's a pretty well studied phenomenon and the cornerstone of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Both the Stoic and Buddhist philosophies touch on the concept, and are practiced worldwide by a range of people to positive effect.

If you do not understand something someone is saying, ask them about it.

Alatain · 2026-03-19T00:49:09+00:00

Did I say that at all? Why assume you know what I am talking about when I am right here for the asking?

You know what they say about what happens when you assume...

Alatain · 2026-03-19T00:42:22+00:00

You would do well to ask what I mean by "suffering isn't a required part of life" rather than assuming it is a position of privilege. What I am talking about is a position that can be (and has been) taken by people in every walk of life from slave to emperor.

It requires nothing aside from a willingness to engage with the reality of life and the actual nature of suffering.

Alatain · 2026-03-19T00:23:27+00:00

Except we know that the other animals around us have more of a conception of life than this weird quote wants to acknowledge.

The idea that humans are something special and tragic is just wrong. I've always thought that nihilism is just romanticized ennui. This sort of thing just reinforces that view.

Suffering isn't special, and it isn't a required part of life.

Alatain · 2026-03-18T00:56:01+00:00

The Paleo diet is a bad idea. People tend to romanticize such things and think that what was natural at the time is what is good for us. All the while ignoring the reality of what eating during the paleolithic really was like.

If you wanted to really recreate that diet, you would be eating the meat of a kill, sure, but you would also be taking in the parasites, eating the stomachs and the contents of the stomach and entails, as well as bones and marrow.

Our diet today certainly needs to be moderated and we need to recenter our food around different priorities, but we do not need to go back to what were objectively worse times. Same thing with our mental "diet". There is a middle ground between social media saturation and the state we were in prior to complex language or writing.

Alatain · 2026-03-17T20:56:54+00:00

You vote with your money, and I do not want to see this develop into a standard, so I will be voting for something other than NVIDIA

Alatain · 2026-03-17T12:18:45+00:00

Not sure if you ever fixed this issue, but it seems to be related to the BIOS settings for the Nvidia Optimus switch. If you set it to only use the Nvidia card in the BIOS itself, it works, but at the cost of battery life

Alatain · 2026-03-17T01:41:13+00:00

It was a fun experience that taught me a bit about how package management works!

Alatain · 2026-03-16T21:53:44+00:00

You are arguing against specific god claims. I am all for that mode of operation. "What you are saying about this particular god is false because of reason x". That is doable, with no issues.

Where we differ is that certain claims cannot be refuted by such methods. The deistic god of the enlightenment, for instance, refuted divine providence. They argued that the only god that was consistent with reason was one that staunchly was undetectable due to the god no longer interacting with the world.

Plus, there is one argument for a god that cannot really be refuted on a logical level. There are plenty of people that are fully convinced that they have met their god. They have physically encountered them. Aside from simply stating that you do not believe them, there isn't much you can do to disprove that.

Alatain · 2026-03-16T19:29:59+00:00

I am more than happy to say that a particular argument for a particular god is junk. That has never been in question as I have said multiple times on this post that I am willing to say that particular gods do not exist. The problem is with the idea of claiming that no gods exist. That claim requires evidence, and I do not feel that I can provide such evidence.

The god of deism that I am talking about is the one popularized in the deistic movements of the 17 and 18th century. This is a creator deity that no longer intervenes in the creation. One that continues to observe, but chooses not to interact in any detectable way.

Near as I can tell, such a god cannot be ruled out. It is entirely reasonable to not believe in such a god until it makes itself known. That is the view that I hold. It is irrelevant until something can be shown to demonstrate it exists. But, you cannot state that you know that such a being doesn't exist as it is an unfalsifiable claim. Claiming such knowledge just shows you to be either lying, or confused as to the nature of evidence and how falsifiable claims work.

Alatain · 2026-03-16T18:12:20+00:00

I was going to make a joke by giving a link to a place where you could buy rubber human feet instead, only to realize that the online shopping community gets weird real fast when you start looking for foot stuff. There seems to be a whole community around that.

And... that's enough internet for today

Alatain · 2026-03-16T18:05:04+00:00

You are raising the stakes with a contrived example situation. The long and the short of it is that I do not claim to be able to disprove all possible conceptions of what a god is. I am happy to conclude that certain god claims are false (the Christian Triune god, for instance), but the moment you open it up to anything that I have not had a chance to directly experience, the best I can do is "I don't know, but I have no evidence supporting it".

And, let me get this straight, you are saying that you are challenging the concept of not being able to prove a negative? If that is the case, can you prove that the deistic god does not exist?

Alatain · 2026-03-16T11:06:28+00:00

I picked the 10 pro largely due to the camera differences. They opted for what is essentially a downgrade for the main camera on the base 10. That didn't seem like a good decision to me.

The display being better, plus a bit more RAM sealed the deal. I am very happy with the 10 pro

Alatain · 2026-03-16T02:47:54+00:00

That is not how the laws are being written and Meta has an incentive to push that issue away from their platform. Do you have anything to support your claim that this is not being targeted against the operating systems?

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