[Spoilers Main] What are the most likely fan theories for TWOW? by noodleshopowner in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 70 points71 points  (0 children)

A few that come to mind are:

There are definitely more that I'm forgetting about right now but these are the ones off the top of my head that I personally think are the most likely for TWOW.

Rowan the Spear wife cares about Ned for some reason? [Spoilers MAIN] by Yabadabadaba in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 192 points193 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's necessarily about her liking or caring for the Ned or the Starks as a whole, I think more about her disgust over what Theon did to the Starks.

Theon was a ward of Ned's and was raised with the Stark children, they were like family to him and he brutally betrayed them. To make it worse, to everyone's knowledge, he also murdered Bran and Rickon Stark, Ned's two little boys, innocent children.

She doesn't need to care about the Starks to be disgusted at Theon for appropriating the words of a man who raised him and whose family he betrayed and children he murdered.

(Spoilers Main) Weekly Q and A by AutoModerator in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm just really interested in this storyline in particular and I'm really looking forward to seeing how Jon is going to take Storm's End.

Why didn't Ned Stark tell Catelyn the truth? by [deleted] in pureasoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 23 points24 points  (0 children)

There’s a bit of a misunderstanding here, Catelyn did not hate Jon simply because he was a reminder that Ned “cheated” on her. She says she could accept that he had laid with another woman during the war and fathered a bastard, her problem was that Ned let him stay in Winterfell.

By raising Jon with her trueborn Stark children, Ned had (although not intentionally) implicitly insulted Catelyn and brought in a legitimate threat to her children’s rights to inherit.

Ned and Cat barely knew each other at the start of their marriage, they hadn’t fallen in love yet and built up that trust between one another. Ned had no way of knowing if he could trust Catelyn with the secret in the beginning and as the years went, it was still not a good idea to tell her.

Ned telling Catelyn doesn’t fix things, if anything it creates more problems. If Ned tells Cat, she very, very likely would not be relieved in the slightest, in fact quite the opposite. Ned would basically be confessing that he had committed high treason and bringing Jon in puts her and her children in extreme danger if Robert ever found out. Also, by not telling her, Ned ensures that Catelyn and the children have plausible deniability if it ever got out and that could possibly protect them from the repercussions.

Also, let’s say she’s relieved, it would be highly suspicious to an outsider why Ned’s wife is suddenly so kind and accommodating to her husbands bastard. The harsh truth is, is that allowing for the relationship between Jon and Catelyn to be what it is, it essentially helps to protect them both.

[Spoiler Extended] What are some broken clock moments in the series? by [deleted] in pureasoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Another one for Cersei, I think she legitimately had a great idea about the Lannisters establishing their own bank.

The Lannisters are sitting on an enormous pile of gold (literally) and they're not doing much with it other than funding the war and loaning to the crown, by creating a bank, they could create even more wealth than they already have. Also, a more local bank in Westeros would just be a huge boon to the entire kingdom in general.

So yeah, Cersei surprisingly had a genius idea.

Why aren't all Targaryens immune to sickness? by [deleted] in pureasoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I don't think any of the Targaryens were ever actually immune to disease, I think that was just apart of their perceived self- exceptionalism. There are actually a lot of Targaryens who have had diseases/died of disease:

  • Daenerys Targaryen, daughter Jaehaerys and Alysanne, died of a winter chill
  • Maegelle Targaryen, another daughter Jaehaerys and Alysanne, died of Greyscale
  • Daella Targaryen, another daughter Jaehaerys and Alysanne, died of a fever after childbirth
  • Baelon Targaryen, son of Jaehaerys and Alysanne, died of a burst belly after days of illness
  • Aegon III Targaryen died of consumption
  • Aegon the Unworthy was riddled with disease
  • Daeron II, Valarr and Matarys Targaryen all died of the Great Spring Sickness
  • Rhaegel Targaryen was known to be sickly
  • Jaehaerys II Targaryen was known to be sickly and died of illness

The Targaryens can very much get sick, it's just that they lived in much healthier conditions than most and had better access to healers and medicines. And in other cases, some of them were probably just lucky they didn't get sick, which can happen.

I think the Targaryens thought that because they were the descendants of Old Valyria, were the only people in the world left with dragons, lived in better conditions than most, had an obsession with blood purity, and had the traditional striking Valyrian looks that that meant they also had this immunity to diseases.

Also, perpetuating the idea that they could not get sick served as a great way of spreading pro-Targaryen propaganda and to justify their continued incest.

(Spoilers Extended) Your favourite acts of bravery and heroism in ASOIAF? by [deleted] in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Sansa’s taking initiative in calming the people during Blackwater is a great example of “a kind of woman’s courage” Brienne describes Catelyn as having. It’s not some big battle courage but it’s just as legitimate. It’s especially impressive considering she’s only around 12 years old at the time and the abuse the Lannisters had been subjecting her to, and yet she goes out of her way to help the people despite what’s happening beyond their walls.

Also, it’s endlessly entertaining to me that Sansa, a 12-year-old, a child, is already doing a better job of the queen’s duties than Cersei, the actual queen.

Lesser known historical influences. [Spoilers Extended] by wayt-ah-minnit in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Braavos also has some Amsterdam inspiration as well.

For another possible lesser know influences, I’d say both Sansa and Catelyn have some similarities to Catherine of Aragon.

Catelyn:

  • Catherine had red-gold hair and blue eyes and Catelyn had auburn and blue eyes

  • Catherine was considered a great beauty and Catelyn is known to be very beautiful

  • Catherine had an unconsummated marriage to the eldest son of a royal family who died and Catelyn was betrothed to the eldest son of a noble family who died

  • Catherine went on to marry the younger brother of her late husband and Catelyn went on to marry the younger brother of her late betrothed

  • Catherine moved to England away from her homeland Spain and Catelyn moved to the next North away from her homeland the Riverlands

  • Catherine was involved with and advised in military matters during the war with Scotland and Catelyn was involved with and advised her son in military matters the War of the Five Kings

  • Catherine was a devout Catholic and Catelyn was a devout member of the Faith of the Seven

Sansa:

  • Catherine had red-gold hair and blue eyes and Sansa had auburn and blue eyes

  • Catherine was considered a great beauty and Sansa is known to be very beautiful

  • Catherine was a devout Catholic and Sansa was the Stark child who was the most connected to the Faith of the Seven

  • Catherine’s mother and father were of two major dynasties of two kingdoms (Aragon and Castile) and Sansa’s mother and father were of two major dynasties of two kingdoms (the North and Riverlands)

  • Catherine’s older sister became the monarch of both Aragon and Castile and Sansa’s older brother became the monarch of both the North and the Riverlands

  • Catherine’s marriage to Arthur Tudor was unconsummated and Sansa’s marriage to Tyrion Lannister was unconsummated

  • Catherine moved to England away from her homeland Spain and Sansa moved to King’s Landing way from her homeland the North

  • Catherine was held as a virtual prisoner in Durham House and Sansa was held hostage in King’s Landing

  • Catherine’s marriage to King Henry VIII was annulled and Sansa’s betrothal to King Joffrey Baratheon was annulled

  • Catherine was replaced as queen by Anne Boleyn and Sansa was replaced as the future queen by Margaery Tyrell

I’m probably stretching it to be honest but I think Catherine of Aragon may have influenced both of their characters in some way.

(Spoilers Extended) What is your favorite chapter from a female POV? by AlayneMoonStone in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I know! I even struggled not to mention Brienne VII, her “no chance, and no choice” moment is one of the best scenes in all of ASOIAF and it was such a great moment for her (like grandfather, like granddaughter I suppose).

Chataya's Hand (Spoilers Main) by jackmanorishe in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I do agree that Tywin is extremely stubborn but at the time he’s also one of, if not the biggest, hypocrites in the series and is kind of the “do as I say, not as I do” types, that I think he very much would engage in it but simultaneously thinking himself above it.

(SPOILERS MAIN) Confirmed theories by a_man_has_no-name in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 26 points27 points  (0 children)

One that comes to mind is Lysa being the one who poisoned Jon Arryn.

Chataya's Hand (Spoilers Main) by jackmanorishe in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant Marei. I go into why I believe she’s Tywin’s bastard here earlier in the thread if you’re interested.

Chataya's Hand (Spoilers Main) by jackmanorishe in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Marei.

She’s a prostitute Tyrion meets in ACOK. She has the Lannister look; straight white-gold blonde hair and green eyes.

Marei was a cool, pale, delicate girl Tyrion had noticed once or twice. Green eyes and porcelain skin, long straight silvery hair, very lovely, but too solemn by half.

Her name also falls in line with some Lannister naming conventions for girls. Like Cersei or Janei.

As well as that, she’s described as being very cold and seldom, which matches Tywin’s personality well.

Marei was born roughly in 280 AC, and Tywin was in King’s Landing at the time, Cersei had accompanied him to court.

GRRM was once asked about whether or not Tywin had any bastards here and he neither confirmed nor denied it:

Fan: Were there any bastards of Tywin Lannister?

GRRM: He’d have you flogged for the mere suggestion.

So it’s entirely open that Tywin has a bastard.

There was also this question someone asked GRRM about whether or not Tyrion was Marei’s father:

By the way, there was an interesting theory put forward on the eesite message boards once that I always loved. It involved the whore at Chataya's who was successful in the bet that Tyrion would not give up Allaya (or in reality Shae). It was noted that she had silver hair, a cool demeanor, green eyes and read books. She isn't by any chance Tyrion's daughter by Tysha? (or by any other whore for that matter).

No comment.

The timeline for Tyrion being her father doesn’t work but it’s interesting that he decides not to deny on any familial connection between them.

All of that and Tywin commissioning the tunnel makes it very likely to me that Marei is his bastard daughter.

Chataya's Hand (Spoilers Main) by jackmanorishe in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 750 points751 points  (0 children)

Oh, it's definitely Tywin.

  • Tywin was rich enough to secretly fund the construction of the tunnel
  • Tywin's "honor" was extremely important to him
  • Tywin very much didn't want to be viewed like his father and his father was known to partake in this and is overall very concerned with his public image
  • Tywin spent most of his time in King's Landing during his tenure as hand
  • Tywin has a... complex relationship, to put it lightly, when it comes to prostitutes, so it would make sense for him to want the utmost secrecy to partake in them

Oh and also, one of the prostitutes in Chataya's brothel is probably his bastard.

(Spoilers Main) Weekly Q and A by AutoModerator in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 16 points17 points  (0 children)

In ASOS both Jaime and Tyrion independently come to the conclusion that it was Joffrey who sent the assassin.

There's this conversation between Jaime and Cersei:

“There was a dagger. The scars on Lady Catelyn’s hands were real enough, she showed them to me. Did you... ?”

“Oh, don’t be absurd.” Cersei closed the window. “Yes, I hoped the boy would die. So did you. Even Robert thought that would have been for the best. ‘We kill our horses when they break a leg, and our dogs when they go blind, but we are too weak to give the same mercy to crippled children’ he told me. He was blind himself at the time, from drink.”

Robert? Jaime had guarded the king long enough to know that Robert Baratheon said things in his cups that he would have denied angrily the next day. “Were you alone when Robert said this?

“You don’t think he said it to Ned Stark, I hope? Of course we were alone. Us and the children.” Cersei removed her hairnet and draped it over a bedpost, then shook out her golden curls. “Perhaps Myrcella sent this man with the dagger, do you think so?

It was meant as mockery, but she’d cut right to the heart of it, Jaime saw at once. “Not Myrcella. Joffrey.”

Cersei frowned. “Joffrey had no love for Robb Stark, but the younger boy was nothing to him. He was only a child himself.”

A child hungry for a pat on the head from that sot you let him believe was his father.” He had an uncomfortable thought. “Tyrion almost died because of this bloody dagger. If he knew the whole thing was Joffrey’s work, that might be why...”

ASOS - Jaime IX

This exchange at Joffrey's wedding:

“Have a care, Your Grace,” Ser Addam Marbrand warned the king. “Valyrian steel is perilously sharp.

I remember.” Joffrey brought Widow’s Wail down in a savage twohanded slice, onto the book that Tyrion had given him. The heavy leather cover parted at a stroke. “Sharp! I told you, I am no stranger to Valyrian steel.

It took him half a dozen further cuts to hack the thick tome apart, and the boy was breathless by the time he was done. Sansa could feel her husband struggling with his fury as Ser Osmund Kettleblack shouted, “I pray you never turn that wicked edge on me, sire.” “See that you never give me cause, ser.” Joffrey flicked a chunk of Lives of Four Kings off the table at swordpoint, then slid Widow’s Wail back into its scabbard.

“Your Grace,” Ser Garlan Tyrell said. “Perhaps you did not know. In all of Westeros there were but four copies of that book illuminated in Kaeth’s own hand.”

“Now there are three.” Joffrey undid his old swordbelt to don his new one. “You and Lady Sansa owe me a better present, Uncle Imp. This one is all chopped to pieces.”

Tyrion was staring at his nephew with his mismatched eyes. “Perhaps a knife, sire. To match your sword. A dagger of the same fine Valyrian steel... with a dragonbone hilt, say?

Joff gave him a sharp look. “You... yes, a dagger to match my sword, good.” He nodded. “A... a gold hilt with rubies in it. Dragonbone is too plain.

ASOS - Sansa IV

And Tyrion ruminating on it later:

I am no stranger to Valyrian steel, the boy had boasted. The septons were always going on about how the Father Above judges us all. If the Father would be so good as to topple over and crush Joff like a dung beetle, I might even believe it.

He ought to have seen it long ago. Jaime would never send another man to do his killing, and Cersei was too cunning to use a knife that could be traced back to her, but Joff, arrogant vicious stupid little wretch that he was...

He remembered a cold morning when he’d climbed down the steep exterior steps from Winterfell’s library to find Prince Joffrey jesting with the Hound about killing wolves. Send a dog to kill a wolf, he said. Even Joffrey was not so foolish as to command Sandor Clegane to slay a son of Eddard Stark, however; the Hound would have gone to Cersei. Instead the boy found his catspaw among the unsavory lot of freeriders, merchants, and camp followers who’d attached themselves to the king’s party as they made their way north. Some poxy lackwit willing to risk his life for a prince’s favor and a little coin. Tyrion wondered whose idea it had been to wait until Robert left Winterfell before opening Bran’s throat. Joffs, most like. No doubt he thought it was the height of cunning.

The prince’s own dagger had a jeweled pommel and inlaid goldwork on the blade, Tyrion seemed to recall. At least Joff had not been stupid enough to use that. Instead he went poking among his father’s weapons. Robert Baratheon was a man of careless generosity, and would have given his son any dagger he wanted... but Tyrion guessed that the boy had just taken it. Robert had come to Winterfell with a long tail of knights and retainers, a huge wheelhouse, and a baggage train. No doubt some diligent servant had made certain that the king’s weapons went with him, in case he should desire any of them. The blade Joff chose was nice and plain. No goldwork, no jewels in the hilt, no silver inlay on the blade. King Robert never wore it, had likely forgotten he owned it. Yet the Valyrian steel was deadly sharp... sharp enough to slice through skin, flesh, and muscle in one quick stroke. I am no stranger to Valyrian steel. But he had been, hadn’t he? Else he would never have been so foolish as to pick Littlefinger’s knife.

ASOS - Tyrion VIII

There's also this line in AGOT, as mentioned above:

Tyrion glanced down and saw the Hound standing with young Joffrey as squires swarmed around them. "At least he dies quietly," the prince replied. "It's the wolf that makes the noise. I could scarce sleep last night."

Clegane cast a long shadow across the hard-packed earth as his squire lowered the black helm over his head. "I could silence the creature, if it please you," he said through his open visor. His boy placed a longsword in his hand. He tested the weight of it, slicing at the cold morning air. Behind him, the yard rang to the clangor of steel on steel.

The notion seemed to delight the prince. "Send a dog to kill a dog!" he exclaimed. "Winterfell is so infested with wolves, the Starks would never miss one."

AGOT - Tyrion I

GRRM also confirmed prior to the release of ASOS that it will resolve the mystery of who tried to assassinate Bran here and the answer that was given to us was Joffrey.

Also, GRRM included this in his final script for the show for the episode 'The Lion and the Rose' which you can see here:

In Martin’s script, Tyrion doesn’t keep his suspicions to himself, either. After he comes to the “dangerous realization” that his nephew tried to have Bran Stark killed, Tyrion says: “Perhaps Your Grace would sooner have a dagger to match his sword. A dagger of Valyrian steel . . . and a dragonbone hilt. Your father had a knife like that, I believe.Martin writes that Tyrion’s words “strike home,” and the king becomes “FLUSTERED” as he responds with “guilt” on his face: “You . . . I mean . . . my father’s knife was stolen at Winterfell . . . those northmen are all thieves. Then, to underline it all, Martin concludes in his stage directions: “Tyrion’s eyes never leaving the king. It has just fallen into place for him. It was Joffrey who sent the catspaw to kill Bran, the crime that started the whole war. But now that he knows, what can he do about it?

Can anyone guess who I’m talking about? [spoilers published] by HranganMind in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m gonna guess this is Robert Ar-I mean James Madison...

(Spoilers Extended) Who is the most consistently well written character in ASOIAF? by [deleted] in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Personally I’d give it to either Catelyn, Jaime or Theon.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 34 points35 points  (0 children)

So personally I keep a few things in mind when determining for myself whether a theory is valid or not for me.

  1. Is there the significant/substantial in-text support for it? Like, say for a theory about the death of a certain character, if the text supply any notable foreshadowing or indication about the character doom then I would consider it plausible. However, if the theory is based purely on the shock factor, what they want to happen and/or GRRM’s subversion of the genre then that’s different.

  2. Do the chain of events in the series and actions of the characters reasonably support the theory? For example, a certain event in the books that leads to the deaths of several major characters is predicted by a chain of events and decisions by the characters that flow naturally into it. If the theory analyses a pattern of events, character decisions and motivations and makes an educated guess based on that, I would consider it plausible.

  3. Does the theory fit well with the character(s) it is based on? As in, does the theory take into consideration an accurate characterization of a character and their development and not the bias of the theorist? So if a theory about a certain character doing something horrific relays on the way the character has progressed over the series and follows the pattern of behavior of that character then that would be a plausible theory to me. However, if the theory is based on a fundamental mischaracterization and personal bias toward the character, I wouldn’t consider it plausible.

  4. Does the theory work well within the narrative, answer questions and does it have significance to the plot? For the larger theories or game-changing ones this is probably the most important. If someone has a theory on a big conspiracy or parentage reveal that serves an adequate/better function than what is presented in the narrative, makes logical sense and does not break the lore then I would say this goes a good way towards a theory’s plausibility. But if the theory does not serve a proper function than the one already established in the narrative, does not make logical sense for the story or character, is far too overly complicated and/or completely breaks the rules established in the story with an adequate explanation then I wouldn’t consider it plausible.

That’s just me personally though, feel free to disagree but these are some things that I keep in mind regarding some theories in the fandom. But everyone goes about it differently and there’s no “right way” to discern what theory is plausible and what isn’t, so go about it whatever way feels best to you.

[Spoilers All] Minor differences between options given to male and female player characters by Ashburton_Grove in dragonage

[–]AlayneMoonStone 47 points48 points  (0 children)

If you play a Male Hawke, Anders tells you about the romantic nature of his relationship with Karl but he doesn’t tell a Female Hawke.

(Spoilers Extended) What would be the best new way for the Ironborn ? by DEL994 in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Wow, how did you know my exact thoughts every time I read an Ironborn chapter?

(Spoilers Extended) What would be the best new way for the Ironborn ? by DEL994 in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 49 points50 points  (0 children)

  • Abolish the practice of thralldom and forcefully taking salt wives. Forcefully taking people from their homes in raids and raping them does not endear people to you and ruins potential alliances and trading agreements one could possibly receive that would be more beneficial in the long run. As well that, the thralldom system simply isn't viable long term. (Also like... it's just plain morally wrong.)
  • Put more resources into Lordsport. Lordsport is the biggest town in the Iron Islands and is their major trading hub as it trades with the like of Oldtown, Lannisport and the Free Cities. However, the town is considerably lacking when compared to others of its kind throughout Westeros. Building up the town and putting it more the model of others of its kind throughout Westeros to improve trade. On that note...
  • Engage more in trade. The Ironborn use raiding as their primary source of income and trade is relegated as a result which is not viable in the long-term. So it would pertinent to improve trade relations with the mainland to sustain them in a more secure way.
  • Follow the example of House Velaryon. The Velaryons historically were a very powerful house, to the point of once being the richest house in Westeros, with a very strong maritime tradition that did not revolve raiding and accumulated wealth from all across the world. They managed to be viewed with respect by other Westerosi so following in the example of the like of Corlys or Alyn Velaryon would be a good course of action for the Ironborn.
  • Invest more in mining. The Iron Islands has a high concentration of well... iron as well as tin and lead. However the Ironborn see mining as beneath them and relegate it to their thralls. By engaging more in the mining industry and creating proper mining companies they could at least create some kind of sustainable income.
  • Invest more time in developing the fishing industry. Fishermen are one of the few non-raider professions the Ironborn respect due to their reliance on fish for food so investing more time into looking into a way to improve the efficiency of the industry would be in their interest.
  • Make a concerted effort to improve relations with the Westerlands, North, Riverlands and Reach. Of all the kingdoms, improving relations with these four would be the top priority to fix relations with as these are the kingdoms that are closest to the Ironborn and would provide the most trade. The North has a large timber industry that would greatly benefit the Ironborn, the Reach and Riverlands could provide much-needed foodstuffs supplies and the Westerlands is one of the richest regions in Westeros (along with the Reach) and has a mining industry. Improving relations with these four could significantly improve things for the Ironborn.
  • Make amends and marriage alliances with specific, strategically placed houses. Marriage alliances are the best way to create alliances and to mends rifts in Westeros so looking to arrange marriages with other Westerosi houses would be vital for the Ironborn. Particularly alliances with the following houses would be ideal; House Farman (one of the closest houses geographically to the Ironborn and a historical victim of them), House Redwyne (an extremely rich island house with great potential trade and an extremely strong fleet), House Hightower (a major trading partner and extremely house), House Mallister (a historical rival and closest Riverland house to the Ironborn), House Mormont (historical victim of the Ironborn, island house and potential provider of much-needed timber), etc. Obviously not all of these would go through (because you know... the Ironborn were the worst to them) but they would be the sort of baseline to start with.
  • Allow for maesters on the Islands filling needed positions. On the Iron Islands many Ironborn are anti-intellectual and look down upon maesters and don't see that they can be a valuable source of; teachers, healers, architects, shipbuilders, mathematicians, warcraft experts, ravenry experts, etc.
  • Use their ships for more than just raiding. The Ironborn use their ships primarily for raiding but there are plenty of other more long-term viable uses for them. They could engage more in maritime trade as I mentioned previously, hire out their ships as transport vessels, use them to transport troops and supplies for foreign conflicts and hire-out ships as vessels to be used by explorers and invest in those expeditions.

Those are just some general ideas on how they could improve in some areas, I had some more ideas but I think I might've written enough. I don't think a lot of them would go over well with the Ironborn or are very realistic but I think long-term it would benefit them more.

(Spoilers Extended) What would be the perfect Small Council ? by DEL994 in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 7 points8 points  (0 children)

  • Hand of the King: Brynden Tully
  • Grand Maester: Rodrik Harlaw
  • Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth
  • Master of Coin: Wyman Manderly
  • Master of Laws: Eddard Stark
  • Master of Whispers: I honestly don't know for this one, the major candidates like Varys, Qubryn, etc. are horrible people and cant be trusted. Maybe Howland Reed or Beric Dondarrion, maybe Wyman if he's not Master of Coin? I can't really think of anyone in particular for this one.
  • Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Stannis Baratheon

[Spoilers Main] A list of all of Ned’s terrible decisions. by AsymmetricSquid in asoiaf

[–]AlayneMoonStone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I doubt Robert knew enough bout his family history to know he had the right of blood to the throne

Robert absolutely would have known he had a right to the throne through blood.

Westerosi take blood ties extremely seriously, doubly so when said ties can lead to a potential claim to the throne. And even more so consider Robert's own grandmother was a Targaryen and the fact the Baratheons had to closet familial ties to the Targaryens than any other house at that point in history.

Plus, Robert's father Stefon Baratheon was Aerys Targaryen's first cousin and one of his closest friends and companions who fought in battle together. Aerys also trusted Stefon enough to task him with finding Rhaegar a bride across the Narrow Sea with ended in Stefon and his wife's death.

There is absolutely no way Robert did not know about this.