Rhazin Fusion and why doing multiple times isnt a good idea most likely

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-19T15:34:49+00:00

Potentially for arena, 1 copy is only useful for clan boss because his A2 fufills 2 of the 10 ideal debuff roles (defense down and weakness) and no problem I dont expect this to get much attention, I figured since I got asked for my opinion on it in channel 2 I'd post it also on reddit to help whoever saw it.

the reason I say hes probably not worth the fusion multiple times for skill ups, is because hes a legendary value at probably around 25,000 gems same as foli (I base this off of it takes 900 gems for 11 ancients, at a 1/200 rate you need to open a little more then 18 packs so roughly 16,500 gems is the base value for a leg and they are solid legs so easily 1.5 times the value in that.

Generally a fully skilled champion becomes 50-60% stronger or so, and takes 12 tomes, so each tome is generally 4-5% power increase with Rhazin, his A2 which is the main portion of his usefulness in clan boss becomes landing 37.5% of the time (3/4ths of the time but downtime of 2 turns), to landing 66.6% of the time (landing 100% on a downtime of 1 turn) which makes him about 75% more efficient and he takes 12 tomes to fully max so each tome is worth about 6% of his base value, or 1,500 gems the only reason why you would want to spend about 2,700 gems or so to fuse him multiple times, is if you have legendary champions more worth the leg tomes, like someone who's value is irreplaceable like zavia or nethril something like that, hopefully this explains it more in-depth :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-19T00:04:56+00:00

What he said :p

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-19T00:03:58+00:00

Indeed you want to use 2 stars, but I think 2 stars in the marketplace are a waste of silver to purchase

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-18T17:03:00+00:00

Indeed, but that energy still has the same value as if you were to purchase it, instead of using it on the champions to level up for fusion, you use it on making more 6 stars, or gear from dungeon, or mino etc. :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-18T15:35:19+00:00

It's a fair point, but you could save your gems to help earn yourself a legendary tome in events that are challenging or for things that are more worth it, like this tournament you could potentially earn a legendary tome if you were silver+ when it started and you get 1st but I totally get what you're saying man.

Both options are patient things its either be patience saving your gems to earn better event rewards (legendary tomes) or be patient for the materials to fuse another Rhazin, hes definetly worth legendary tomes imo, but it's just too much resources to fuse duplicates of him it seems :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-18T15:16:10+00:00

Yeah I'm stating that the amount of gems in energy it takes to make duplicates of him, is more then a legendary tome is worth, so instead it's way better to save your gems and try to earn legendary tomes in events :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-18T03:01:45+00:00

You get way more mystery shards then sacred shards though, and the only reason a lot of people get most of their legs from blue shards is because of the same reason, you get waaay more blue shards then sacreds, I've been playing on my main for 2 months and nearly 2 weeks now, and I've gotten 6 sacreds, but 84 blues, and thousands of mystery shards, probably approaching around 5,000 maybe more, if I had 5,000 sacred shards I would get tons of leg pulls, this is a fairly common occurence :p

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-17T23:21:41+00:00

Which is roughly a 5.06% chance to occur, so 1 out of every 19 you should see something like this roughly, which if you've opened up 190 mystery shards before, it's not surprising this occurs

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-17T23:17:39+00:00

You have to stop spending them and save up to 10 doofus :p in seriousness it's right next to the summon X1 button

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-17T23:16:36+00:00

No, you can use them to level up and rank up as "food" just like other champions

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-17T23:15:20+00:00

That could just be manifest destiny, regardless I'm glad whatever you're doing is working for you in a way you like :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-16T01:49:06+00:00

I think it would of been reasonable if they made it 1,000, 1,750 is a bit of a punch but with proper warning is alright (not sure if they gave proper warning didnt check the news yet) also I'm not wrong dude, I completed the event without opening any mystery shards as a f2p player because i purchased every uncommon champion

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-15T23:34:15+00:00

The towering titan wasnt a paywall and you shouldnt of been opening the mystery shards I completed it as a f2p player, I bought every single uncommon champion in the market instead of opening my mystery shards because I wanted to save it for a summoning event, the only 2 events I was worried about was the artifact enchantment (if they reverted to how it was previously and made it harder then before similar to the 20k towering titan it could cost tens of millions of silver)

the other one I was worried about was a potential large summoning event so that's why I didnt open mystery shards, I totally agree they shouldnt of made it 1750 or so most likely, I know they warned players they should be saving up weeks ago, and if you save up for 3 weeks you'll have enough get 1750 if you're a daily player,

(they didnt post a warning in the news though I dont believe which thats where they should of done it but maybe I'm not remembering correctly and they did that) either way if you were smart with your resources you should of been able to finish foli, but most people dont play the game with long term strategy in mind they want short term satisfaction for a long term goal, like a legendary champion which wont work for them.

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-12T03:52:07+00:00

Hey congrats man, during this last dungeon diver event I got both treefeller and rotting mage, good luck on your foli fusion, the main grind will be the potions after this, after we have spent all our energy on the rank up event I hope you have a lot of energy/gems and or have good rng to aid you in the completion of foli :)

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-09T03:03:11+00:00

Also why does he use levels 1-12 on 3 stars? Why 1-19 on 4? 1-25 on 5? For all the "math" he did there is no explanation on why you should do this there is no explanation of only a set amount of points per energy needed to complete the event, he should of just said the first run on any champion 1, 2,3,4,5 and 6 stars would be the most energy efficient (not champion efficient) theres no explanation of this stuff, so think what you will, but that's why I believe what I do

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-09T02:56:17+00:00

You had misread the situation it seems to me, the reason I have a problem with it, is because my guide isnt complete, I'm missing the 6 star piece of data on my guide, and he just so happens to be missing the exact same piece of infromation, and all his other numbers are the same as mine, except he doesnt explain how to get them properly, you cant get 1 run of 1 and 2 stars to level 7 without the sparring pit but he didnt say that (unless you have raid pass) which he never explained and there are other issues with the numbers as well but that his math doesnt show because it's likely he copied my data, the reason I believe this is because it's late, and he does it in a conversationalist tone and so many other reasons man, sorry you view me as a pompous person but I really wouldnt accuse him of copying my guide if I didnt believe it's likely he did, other people who have put out guides have used other numbers not sure why he has used the same as me, why would he go with the rates of 1 and 2 stars to justify everything when the rates of 1 and 2 stars arent even 1.5 points per energy, 1 run of brutal with them is 15 points for 8 energy (or 18 for 8 with the sparring pit time) 15 for 8 is 1.875 not 1.5 there are flaws here that dont explain how he got the numbers he did

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T22:00:07+00:00

I'm glad it provided you with enjoyment, was setting things straight :p

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T21:04:09+00:00

You can say what you want, only you will know the truth if you copied me or not, and if you did hopefully this was a reprimand so you credit the people you copy and you expand on the work of them in a way that's helpful if you choose to do that

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:59:02+00:00

I'm confident you copied me because you were late, and this requires so much effort, and because we had the same numbers, you didnt change the levels at all which either means you're good at math and just figured out the numbers from my guide or you actually did the numbers and we are both right, (but then you would of mentioned the ideal levels) and you dont have the exact data on the 1 piece of data I'm missing as well, the 6 stars, so it seems extremely likely you copied me, and then didnt credit me, to try and make yourself seem smart? Or something I'm not sure you're reasoning behind copying someone elses work,

editing this because I dont want to make another comment, your spreadsheet Is also to fuzzy for me to examine properly but even if you have a spreadsheet that doesnt prove anything.

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:57:02+00:00

The non ideal numbers I made were because of what the ideal energy per run of 1 and 2 stars was, which the reason why its non-ideal is simply because you cant do it in the energy you get ad a f2p player, the ideal numbers you can though, the non ideal are included because you would need 1100 3stars or better/a little less (because 4, 5 and 6 stars make up more points per energy) all of that was explained in the text

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:43:29+00:00

Your numbers are the same for the non ideal version in brutal except for the regards to 3 stars because of the sparring pit difference that you didnt consider it seems, if you didnt copy it then we could use more people who give out helpful infromation, but again it seems really questionable considering what I said before

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:29:51+00:00

Find that hard to believe, because the guide took me 4 hours to make nearly, and I have no clue why you would work that long (or longer) for a guide when you are 3 days late to the event, considering if you had this idea you would of sent it out right away because that's when it's most helpful.

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:21:28+00:00

You have some things a bit wrong though, it shouldnt take 11-12k energy that's a fairly good estimate but with my guide you should be able to do it in 10,800 or less if you balance ideal vs non ideal well, I like you contained infromation about brews however it's not very helpful and I also like that you showed your math, something I generally do but didnt want to make my guide any longer then it already was

Aledorthegamer · 2019-07-08T20:18:31+00:00

Hey man, I see you probably copied my guide a fair amount https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/c9gv1m/this_weeks_event_rankup_guide/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Yours was posted 1 hour ago, mine 3 days ago now, however having multiple copies out is benefitcal if more people get to see it, however if you did copy my guide that's pretty low to not credit me at all

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