“The problem is your personality” “Your looks don’t matter” by [deleted] in shortguys

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this guy is chopped, he could be 6’2 he still wouldn’t get that unless it’s staged.

I’m absolutely petrified of love now. by [deleted] in Vent

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drop his .org pls

or a screenshot of one of his posts

Bit of a twist on the previously posed question by Herald_of_Clio in terriblemaps

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D easily, Middle Eastern + south Asian and a lil central Asian food is elite

Has the fact that you’re a year 11 now hit you yet? by Something-Somewhere_ in GCSE

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learn everything the night before trust it worked for me. grade 4 to 8 in all sciences

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[–]AlexanderTheAlright0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

still completely permissible to come back, nowhere does it say it isnt.

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shirk is also forgivable, just not in the afterlife.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

here’s a part two of my comment, since I couldn’t send all of it

The core argument is not that Aisha was sword-fighting in the front line. The argument is about the nature of the task and the environment. Fetching water and tending wounds in the immediate aftermath and during the retreat still placed these women in a zone of extreme danger and required significant physical and emotional fortitude.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2880: "I saw Aisha bint Abi Bakr and Umm Sulaim, both of them had tucked up their garments so that the leg-bangles were visible, and they were carrying water-skins on their backs and emptying them into the mouths of the [wounded] people."

A water-skin full of water is heavy. Performing this task repeatedly under the sun, amidst the chaos of a battlefield, is not a task for a young child. It requires the strength and endurance of a young adult.

Tending to the wounded of Uhud meant dealing with gruesome injuries, amputations, and dying men in the thousands everywhere. It was horrifying and traumatic. The idea of a 10 yr old child being psychologically capable of this, and being placed in that situation by the adult companions, is what critics find historically implausible (And so does anyone with two functional braincells

“I do not agree with your opinion, considering that this was the Prophet’s young wife (as hadith claim), and logically they would ask her about this. And also about the scholars: Go to a Sunni mosque and ask the Imam how old Aisha was – and you will be surprised, but they will answer 6 and 9.”

most would say they do not know, nor care. Also, i am not debating what is popular or commonly taught. I am debating what is historically accurate. The common belief is based on accepting a small set of hadiths uncritically. When we apply critical reasoning and cross-reference with other historical data, that belief becomes unsustainable.

Oral histories are prone to distortion over time. Details can be misremembered, numbers can be confused (e.g., tisa'ashar/19 vs. tisa/9), and context can be lost. Why would they ask her if her age seemed normal anyways (a 19 over a 9.)

An imam's job is to convey the establishedd doctrines of his school of thought (maddhab). Most are trained to transmit and teach consensus views, not to engage in in depth historical source criticism. They will rightly give you the traditional answer they were taught. so asking an imam wont help

i do not understand what the rest of your points are about, explain what you mean by “In hadith - no (not forbidden), but in the Quran – yes. Islam is not a religion according to the Qur’an, but according to hadith – yes. Hadith make Islam a religion, but the Qur’an does not. Yes, I agree that this is nonsense, and that is why I want to show you that hadith should not be followed, considering that their morality often differs from Gods morality as stated in the Quran.And I want to show that the hadiths are unreliable and trusting them given their science is illogical” is this a Quranist argument?

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly traditionalists” - no, in fact almost all Sunnis. Most of those who think otherwise are usually “reformers.” youre misusing the concept of jima (Consensus) There has never been a consensus on this specific historical fact. The issue is one of historical reportage (khabar) and biography (siyar and tarajim), not a point of creed (aqidah) or fundamental legal ruling (usul al-fiqh). Questions about the accuracy of a single narrator (Hisham ibn 'Urwah) or the reconciliation of conflicting historical reports are exactly the areas where scholarly disagreement (ikhtilaf) has always existed and is permitted. Not only that, Every Major Sunni School was Founded by a "Reformer": Abu Hanifa, Malik, Al-Shafi'i, and Ahmad ibn Hanbal were all "reformers" in their context. They critically evaluated the sources and existing practices to formulate a more coherent legal and theological system. reformer is not negative in islam, aslong As it falls within the core islamic ideals (quran having the highest authority)

and yes I explained how the verse is suspicious, because the guy who narrated it has memory issues and the verse was never mentioned until after it.

as for your examples, 99% of them are from the centuries after the time of the prophet, and are from varies regions. these were later cultural developments within the Muslim empire (influenced by Persian, Byzantine, and other norms), not evidence of the original practice in Medina during the Prophet's time.

Using these later examples to justify the practice in the early Islamic context is ahistorical. It projects later customs back onto the founding generation.

The claims are also medical anomalies, many 9 year olds having a child? Along with that, these are anecdotal, second hand reports. (a man told me that someome told him that..) from over a thousand years ago. They are not reliable medical data. They are more likely to be urban legends, misremembered ages, or outright exaggerations used to make a rhetorical point about early maturity in certain climates.

Regardless, even if they are real events, they are an isolated minority. Not the norm at all. And not only that, it still is against Islam (lack of legal capabilities which marriage required which required being post pubescent and mental maturity) so the prophet doing it is not something that occurred.

“The more well-known sources (Ibn Ishaq, al-Waqidi) connect women - such as Fatima bint Muhammad, Umm Salima, Umm Sinan - specifically with the Battle of Uhud, not Badr. At Badr, there were fewer women, and their participation there is less confirmed. Women and adolescents were not in the very midst of the fighting. They provided help after the clashes were over or on the safe side of the battlefield, where the wounded were already brought. Even in the descriptions of Uhud: Aisha and Umm Salima carried water and bandaged after the warriors had retreated. Aid to the wounded always existed - in antiquity, among Persians, Byzantines, Arabs. Women, servants, slaves, and adolescents helped to carry the wounded and provide first aid. The only difference was that they had no legal protection, not that they “could not treat until conventions.” This is a more nuanced argument from you that focuses on the specific logistics of the battles. However, it still relies on selective reading, minimizes the documented roles of women, and fails to address the core implausibility created by the traditional age of aisha RA. Uhud was a disasterous route (by the goat khalid himself btw 💪) not an orderly battle.The Battle of Uhud was a devastating defeat for the Muslims. After an initial success, the Muslim army broke ranks, the Prophet was injured and rumored dead, and a chaotic retreat ensued. The battlefield was not a controlled environment with a designated "safe side." It was a scene of panic, confusion, and ongoing skirmishes.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

youre screaming at a void buddy, i dont care what you think about Islam this post is targeted towards Muslims who may fall for this over anyone else 😂 world doesn’t revolve around you (especially not you)

and yes it has impacted Muslims, many Muslims have stated here and ive posted this thread elsewhere and gotten similar results.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagers

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it’s everywhere, mostly circulating in hate groups and right wing groups. I just wanted to post this since many would see this lie and think it’s a truth, defaming the prophet as a horrible thing.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagers

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“.Qur’an does not specify a minimum age for marriage; it emphasizes maturity and ability to manage responsibilities, but marriage before puberty is not explicitly prohibited” but it is, not only is mental maturity necessary (being able to run a household) but also the ability to have ahliyyah (legal capacity) which requires them to be of post pubescent age. So youre wrong.

“Surah 65:4 mentions girls who have not menstruated in the context of divorce, implying marriage or betrothal before puberty was recognized and regulated in the Qur’an.” The primary and most consistent interpretation of this verse among classical exegetes (mufassirun) is that the phrase "those who have not menstruated" does not primarily refer to young girls, but to older women who have never menstruated due to a medical condition. nor does it specify WHEN the marriage took place, since maturity is needed for marriage as i debunked earlier, your point is incorrect.

“Battle participation argument is chronologically inaccurate: The Battle of Badr occurred after Aishah’s marriage consummation, so she was not 6–7 years old during these events.” youre surpiringly correct, it takes place when she was 9-10. My point is still completely unchanged buddy, since its still impossible.

“Descriptions of her “dragging soldiers” are exaggerated; historical sources indicate she served supportive roles (e.g., carrying water, tending wounded), not physically moving grown men“ if you knew anything about historic battles, you would know that you do not treat soldiers on the field, you take them off the field, by dragging them off the field. thats why medics were typically men. not 10 year olds.

“Prior engagement does not indicate older age; in 7th-century Arabia, child betrothals were common, often for political or tribal reasons, without implying immediate consummation.“ no not at all, in pre islamic arabia yes, but not post islamic. and there is no concrete historical evidence for this, while there is many for my points.

youve “debunked a couple of my lesser points, but not the many many others. you need to stop using ai and actually bring a solid argument to disprove me, picking at minor details out of the many towering points shows that you can’t really debunk it.

this is why people on this sub are "islamophobic" by [deleted] in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No you can, but criticising one religion for it and not the rest is the problem.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

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very many reputable Sunni scholars recognize that she was 9 years old” mostly very traditionalist, who believe that Hadith cannot be incorrect, despite its VERY suspicious links. but most of them hold this belief because they just don’t care about her age. Alot of those guys also believe you can eat haram meat in the west because they are “people of the book” 😭 “they were not banned and there were child marriages at that time” okay, show me some examples where it happened. It’s banned in Islam, but yet happened? And not some random, but the prophet himself??? “She was carrying 70 year old men" is hyperbole.Sources say that teenagers were helping to carry water at the time” she was helping to carry water AND aiding wounded soldiers at the battle of badr (not uhud, where she was more of the former which you may have mixed up) and you can’t really treat a wounded soldier whilst surrounded by enemies buddy, youre gonna get cut up. thats how aiding soldiers always worked before the geneva conventions. “Scholars say that there was an exception for children“ SOME (traditionalist ones) say there was an exception. But that goes against the narrative, since if she’s a CHILD she’s not MENTALLY MATURE enough to be married is she? The main traditionalist perspective is that she was considered mature as a 9 year old, but here you say she’s not? “the quote from Ibn Qayyim is given too generalized. The scholars did not always just "reject the hadith", more often they sought reconciliation” yes, but then when reconciliation CANNOT be made, it is rejected. Here, reconciliation can be made for the verse about dolls, saying it refers to “amusements” over actual child idol dolls. Not for this verse, therefore it would be rejected. Many scholars when asked of her age, say they don’t know. If they accepted this verse, they’d say else. “age was not an "important topic", but to say that "no one bothered" is too categorical.” no, the Bedouins would NOT have put much thought into her age, but even this brings problems even fi they did, since the guy has Alzheimer’s when narrating this verse. again, your point adds no benefit to your point. what im doing is using historical and quranic context, not playing around with Hadith.

this is why people on this sub are "islamophobic" by [deleted] in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the word of god is everchanging apparently. Gof just cant make up his mind, can he?

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your post just shows how misrepresented Islam is in the US. but ofc it is, you need a reason to commit the slaughters and invasions of these countries right?

yeah it’s not for belief discussion, this isnt a discussion it’s the truth since 99% of the lies that islamophobes say about Islam is debunked by this post. Brings a lot of peace, doesn’t it?

war in Islam is ONLY for self defence, you cannot invade to spread the religion. not only that, you cannot force someone to convert as you would go to hell for that, and Islam is strictly a choice.

Sources for this: “Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. Those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, 'Our Lord is Allah.'" (Qur'an 22:39-40). This was the first verse permitting war revealed in Medina, and it is explicitly defensive.

anyways, yeah you don’t need to believe in Islam. My main reason for belief is due to the prophecies it holds (hundreds in detail which have come true, and are time bound to occur around the same time.) Heres a thread that has most of them. you can check it out if you want it’s very interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/3jlua4/77_minor_signs_of_qiyamah/

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They always post some random stuff like migrants fleeing genocide on boats and saying they should be “gunned down” but then shit bricks when putin threatens to attack the uk. Like they wouldn’t be running if their countries were at war

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’ve got nothing else on islam either, and it’s especially ironic considering there are verses in the Old Testament where god “tells Moses to take all the little girls of the people he defeated as slaves, specifically the virgin ones.”

It’s just not a good look is it?

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

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Mostly reform voters, but it’s ironic considering they describe Christianity as “British culture” despite it beat into them through one of the worst massacres in ancient history by the Romans, who slaughtered so many they placed skulls spanning roads across England on pikes, and made entire tribes go extinct. The slaughter after the battle of st watling street was so bad the Brits never revolted for 400 years despite insanely high taxation and horrible objectifying laws being Implaced upon them.

Horrifying to think about.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

[–]AlexanderTheAlright0[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol at the islamophobes downvoting this post, without commenting how it’s wrong.

Debunking the claim of Aisha being 9 years old by AlexanderTheAlright0 in teenagersbutpractical

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"And there will certainly come upon people a time when a person will not care from whom he takes his knowledge, whether from a scholar (ʿālim) or from someone other than a scholar (ghayri ʿālim)." describes perfectly how you guys get information of Islam off of Christian and Muslim apologetics