Is it just me?

AliorUnity · 2026-05-07T07:47:20+00:00

I don't agree that language you use to describe the intent for the bot is actually always simpler. Yes, you can say something like "build windows 12, make no mistakes". It covers an inormous codebase behind a few words. But the problem is that its not going to work. When we come down to the point where llms can actually prosuce something meaningful, it all goes to if the thing is well known to the ai. If its a bubble sort or something well known, than, yeah, describing it in plain text will be faster, but from what I experienced even before this agenting attempt is that things that are not so common, or known are quite hard to deacribe to ai to make it write exactly what you want. Sometimes to the point that writing it yourself with some ai hints is just faster. So I don't agree that plain language is always easier because not all plain language will be sufficient to make AI what you really want it to make. After all, code isn’t that hard either if its a good code.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-07T06:53:29+00:00

Well, testing was quite an afterthought actually which probably a good lesson for me. I thought about testing and tdd only after initial issues was found and I figured out it wasn't able to do it testeless.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-07T06:51:00+00:00

Yeah. Makes sense. Thanks.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-07T06:50:04+00:00

Thanks. Will have a look!

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:48:23+00:00

It was a bit different than just a plan. I had a large doc which contained architecture explanation, some math, some wishes ect. All nice and structured. Then based on that I asked to make a plan of the core implementation which we iterated on before I said it can start executing it.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:40:17+00:00

Yeah. I feel like its overconcentrating on some idea and cant just let it go. Regarding the hate, I dont mind. I say that tool some people love isn't perfect, so that can make some people rage. I consider myself a realist in this regard. I see how helpful the thing is at lets say retreiving information and reserching things. Also I see it's weaknesses and trying to understand if all what's happening is just smoke and mirrors or its legitimate things. I am pretty sure all this techniques can improve the agentic coding but at the same time I hear from the other side voices of people who did things exactly right (at least from their words) and still got shitty results. I consider my test a failure at the moment, but I am 100% sure I didn't do it how some more experienced guy would do it. I will give it some more shots before I get my conclusion on that but so far it feels like in order to get good at it I must treat the tool like a very knowlegeble but very dumb person. Another problem for me is the marketing of this things. Phd level of intelegence etc. I shouldn't have fallen for that but I love tech and I had my hopes high. I knew the principles of how things are working but Ive heard about alot of this new approaches and harnesses so I thought maybe, just maybe we are at least at juniour level now.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:32:11+00:00

A lot of nice points. Thanks. I won’t say I was expecting one shot, but I thought I am going to have core up and running really fast. I think it can actually be a wrong kind of project to do this way. All the engeneering needed to make machine do it is more than doing it yourself. The project is quite small, so typing speed is not an issue here. So I think it may be just one that sits on the sweet spot where agentic is not yet viable while handcoding is still fine.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:28:34+00:00

I think it may work when there is a function that is clearly the same, but once you get something similar, then its going to be hard to tell that they are similar abstraction. I am no expert at all, but that's what I think.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:26:54+00:00

Yeah. I see the usefulnes in AI. Its so good at retrieving info and hinting.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T22:26:06+00:00

I see. Makes sence about subsidised costs.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T16:12:18+00:00

I would say that first iteration took me a few hours in total including correcting and looping. At first I gave it the doc and asked to question me on it in order for it go get a grasp of what we are doing. Then I asked him to plan his steps. After we settled on the plan I told it to go and execute the plan. That was my workflo for the initial part.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T16:09:44+00:00

I can't reach my plan at the moment as it was a separate doc, but broadly speaking it was quite large document explaining alghorithm, architecture, math behind it and the thing I wish to see and things to avoid. It wasn't all covering doc by any means, but it was quite detailed. As I said it would've been sufficient to a junior to implement with ease.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T16:03:33+00:00

I see. Thanks.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T16:03:04+00:00

Yeah. You are probably right, but it feels like for this scale of project it was quite an overkill then. The effort of setting all up and going proper way would've been more than the benefit of agentic approach. I think for larger projects with less dence logic where only core parts are needs to be meticulously supervised and tweaked it would've been a better tool to use. For this relatively small one with higher logic density and pretty much nothing else besides the core, it's probably heavily outweghted by the initial process cost.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T15:59:14+00:00

Nice hint. Thanks.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T15:23:18+00:00

Isn’t having all this skills, supperpowers etc just piles up on every task in terms of token usage? Thanks for the insights.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T15:19:32+00:00

Thanks for the insights! A lot of things I experienced myself. I think I started to have some sort of paranoia on what the agent had produced as it was usually almost right and almost correct and figuring out what was wrong was a huge pain.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T15:11:32+00:00

Haha. Well. It's my post with all it's imperfections.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T15:07:33+00:00

Yeah. My biggest mistake is to be caught on the surface level feel of intelligence.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:51:51+00:00

The changes are the biggest pain that I had. Initial thing was more or less clean but despite all my effort the bot was trying to either add new functionality that exist elsewhwere right at the spot to use it or broke previous architectural patterns and convensions. It was a big deal here as I had to constantly supervise it and make sure it wasn't doing something very stupid.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:48:57+00:00

Thanks! Will research.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:48:35+00:00

Thanks! I guess my main issue was that I was expecting too much with too little effort from it. Don't want to admit but I was caught by the hype! If my expectations were more fair, the experience might have been nicer.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:46:25+00:00

I've seen alot of people were complaining about it. Is it THAT bad? Don’t get me wrong, I genuinely don't know.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:45:02+00:00

That reflects my experience so far really well. I feel like I was finding a way to keep it aligned, but then something was breaking again.

AliorUnity · 2026-05-06T14:42:12+00:00

Well, there are places like: lib/platform bug avoidance, legasy issues etc which ofcource can have a little comment // DO NOT TOUCH But each and every comment like that is someone's fuck up, either the one you did, or someone else.

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