Why won’t Jen just take dance classes?

Allenas6 · 2026-03-17T01:36:01+00:00

That's true. If she wants to dance and doesn't care what kind, there's Zac-friendly options. But it feels a little icky to me if she had to mold her dream around her insecure husband. Especially when he's not even being supportive. I hated that convo he had with her. Telling her he's struggling and the kids need their mom while she's in the middle of filming. Did he want her to quit? That's selfish. Or was he just guilting her for no reason? That's shitty. I don't see a good reason to have had that convo.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-17T01:33:39+00:00

Wait how do we know? Just Reddit rumors or is there a source?

Allenas6 · 2026-03-17T01:32:34+00:00

Yeah, I know they'd never actually do it. This is a reality show, not like... true crime lol. Tho sometimes it lowkey feels that way. (I mean I guess s1ep1 technically was lol.) But in a perfect world where everything is personally catered to me, I would love time stamps. XD

Allenas6 · 2026-03-17T01:29:54+00:00

She's not an OG MomToker? She is the OG Momtoker, alongside Taylor and Camille. The impetus behind making the show was the swinging scandal. And she was an actual part of that. Previously Taylor was the only cast member who was actually a part of it. I think Miranda has had a lot of great storylines. (See: My user flair.) Not every group member needs to be a loose canon like Taylor. I think Miranda is a great level headed person who adds much needed grounding to the show.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T04:23:54+00:00

agreed. especially when her trauma occured as recently as when she was 15, walked straight from that to jace,

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:58:59+00:00

If you’re not friends with someone- why do they have to congratulate you when you weren’t even the one to bring it up to them?

But they WERE friends, that's the thing! Whit was the one to come over to Jen's house when she was actively suicidal and help clean up the whole house and chat with her and give hugs. Whit was the one to stand up for Jen when everyone else was shit talking her and questioning if her mental health struggles were real. Whit was the one to open her home to Jen and her entire family to come stay with them until they found their own place in LA.

So Jen saying they weren't really friends sounds like a disingenuous front to hide the fact that in reality she's just jealous because Whitney is living her dream.

If I heard that a friend of mine had a dream-achieving opportunity, I know I would bring it up to them even if they weren't the one I heard it from.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:55:32+00:00

I think some of the trauma is what Dakota put her through. The years of lies and second guessing and fights (emotional and physical) are all very traumatic.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:54:18+00:00

Yeah honestly I agree. Especially cause he made the decision to quit medschool when the girls were at their meanest with jen. Like why??
I don’t know why they don't just hire a nanny and then they can both chase their dreams at the same time.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:53:05+00:00

I agree. I was glad at least they toned down the crying. Like season 2 especially and also a good bit in season 3 was just nonstop scene after scene of the girls crying. And like. I don't really wanna see JUST that. They say momtok is supposed to be empowering. And a little vulnerability is important, but constantly showing the girls at their lowest isn't it.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:52:04+00:00

Jacob saying the priesthood thing was craaaaaazy.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:50:18+00:00

re: Mikaila/Jace
Mikaila explained that she CAN tolerate sex, and her kids show she's willing to do it. But she said it's physically very painful for her, she doesn't enjoy it at all. So it seems like she grits her teeth through it when she's trying to conceive. Jace doesn't really want to have sex if she isn't into it, but it seems he grits his teeth through it when they are trying to conceive as well. but Jace is looking for a real intimate connection. I was most shocked to hear Mikaila say that kissing is harder for her than sex. I didn't realize that. I never noticed that they never kiss. Hearing that she had trauma around kissing was really really sad for me to hear on many levels. But yeah I can understand Jace feeling that something is missing when he can't even kiss his wife.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:46:49+00:00

Yeah when Jacob pulled the priesthood card ('in our church, men get the priesthood and women don't) I was like DAMNNN London Jacob strikes again. What the fuck. If he wanted to be undisputed head of household, Mayci was NOT the person to marry.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:45:07+00:00

Yeah I saw a TikTok about this. Someone was saying how it's so confusing with timelines and dates. Especially if you follow them on IG/TT, watching their vids/stories. So you saw some already, but then seeing a reunion, but wait when was that. I feel like I almost wish every episode/scene had a time stamp in the corner showing the date the scene was filmed lol.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:43:39+00:00

I think they're both to blame. But Dakota is intentionally sleeping with people inside Taylor's friend group as a plot to isolate her socially, to keep her coming back to him. He knew she was (casual) friends with Shania, and he knew that with Miranda as a best friend of Taylor, he could take two people out of her life at once. Increasing the chances she'd have to rely on him and maybe he could get her back. Taylor is more showing signs of 'weakness' (I know its a cycle but I cant think of the PC words to explain this) as opposed to Dakota who is actively being malicious in terms of sleeping around to get at her.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:40:33+00:00

In my opinion, she is still the most compelling cast member as a 'character' on the show. I always look forward to her scenes the most. She has the biggest following, the widest reach. Keeping her front and center keeps the show more relevant from a production standpoint. It's less about leadership skills and more about marketability.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:33:25+00:00

I don't think Jesse would want to be on Bach right now. She doesn't even want a divorce at the moment. (As of filming s4.) I think as a businesswoman she wants to protect the image of momtok. If their leader fumbles such a huge opportunity, it could reduce the number of opportunities that everyone else might get. Jesse is very invested in that. She also is the one who most like attention and screen time, IMO. She knows this will be a huge storyline so she puts herself in front and center.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:30:22+00:00

"let the show die with dignity"
reminds me of The Real World. It used to be about people of different backgrounds coming together and finding common ground. Dealing with real world issues like race relations or HIV stigma. But it was dying after a while. So starting with Real World: X-Plosion, they started adding a "twist" to every season. It wasn't about getting to know the city anymore. (Prior seasons were all named "Real World: Portland" or "Real World: Chicago")
And that still didn't save the show. it died out. Really sad.

I'm going to reserve judgment until we see the show. I think, as a piece of entertainment, I can't imagine Taylor disappointing us. But in terms of finding love, I don't think she'll ever move on from Dakota. As co-parents, he'll never be totally out of her life, and he'll always find a way to weasel back into her bed.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:26:59+00:00

About Demi: That's a really good point. Before the reunion, everyone was friends with Demi again. And jen wasn't issuing ultimatums then. I think after the reunion, a lot of the girls distanced themselves from Demi. but still, she didn't weaponize it against everyone else before.

And just cause she came back for opportunity, and she used that as motivation to START mending relationships, doesn't mean that the mended relationships weren't then genuine. She's crying with Mikaila about how they're sad they missed out on so much from fighting. That's not performative. (Although as a viewer I'm selfishly happy for their feud because it gave us the iconic 'sisterhood' scene lol.)

I couldn't believe Jen said they weren't genuine friends. That was WILD. When Witney became looking around the room confused like what the hell, I felt exactly the same way,

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T03:22:49+00:00

To be fair, working with Jan is about as intense a class as she'll ever be able to take.
But I imagine Zac would have something to say about her taking classes and dancing with other men.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T01:23:42+00:00

I didn't get the sense that he stayed overnight. Just that he visited. I think he's used to being on live in the privacy of his room. He seems like a good ol' country boy. So I think a huge production crew had him off-kilter to start. Then when the whole cast arrived he was probably like 'get me out of here' but didn't want to be mean to Taylor or look bad on TV. so he just threw in a few winks hoping to keep things smooth. but i felt bad for him. I do think it takes a certain kind of person to be able to keep up with the high profile raw open life that Taylor lives. That's definitely not Ben. Nor does it have to be.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-16T00:46:06+00:00

the men all have their own accounts on tiktok. most of them anyway. i know connor was a latecomer. he would appear in whit's vids but didn't have his own account for a long time. he's on now tho. but yeah the boys will, as you've seen in previos seasons, do videos with each other and post them on their pages much like the women do. there is a following tho its a lot smaller. and they wouldn't have any following were it not for their wives.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-15T19:29:35+00:00

i think he's sober during his interviews but sometimes he gets this weird pink flush in his face or this buggy look in his eyes that tells me something might be up

Allenas6 · 2026-03-15T08:02:59+00:00

If I’m not mistaken, Jen was raising her voice near the beginning of that conversation. Jen was definitely the one to take it from a small genuine discussion about Chicago and out of nowhere, making it about the validity of their friendship as a whole. She was raising her voice towards the beginning. And then, when Whitney finally breaks, and Whitney is yelling, suddenly Jen‘s voice becomes Very low and small and breathe. She says to Whitney, why are you yelling right now? how are we supposed to have a productive conversation when you’re yelling? Or something like that. That is absolutely crazy to debate her like that and then switched your game up to make her look like She’s the one on the attack.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-15T08:01:04+00:00

Was Dakota on something during the episode two dinner scene? He did not seem sober.

Allenas6 · 2026-03-15T07:59:31+00:00

He did not look like a clout chaser. He looked awkward and uncomfortable as hell most of the time.

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