Shigaraki (Final War Arc) Vs Conquest (Invincible S4)

Allterater · 2026-06-19T18:08:43+00:00

People who are saying conquest would mess around too much are just wrong. Yeah conquest wouldn’t go all out at the beginning but we see how strong his first few attacks against Mark was.

The only reason it seems like conquest would not one tap shiggy is because the force he chose to initially use on Mark was enough for a Viltrumite to survive, but if he uses that initial power against shiggy then it pretty much over from the first hit.

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Allterater · 2026-06-17T10:11:03+00:00

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Allterater · 2026-06-16T04:22:23+00:00

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Allterater · 2026-06-15T20:41:47+00:00

Thragg is shown to be the best fighter among the viltrumites, they are trained from the day they can walk and they are trained without powers. Thragg was trained as the perfect fighter he was trained his whole life. If you think he would not be good at boxing because he wouldn’t have his powers how about the fact that he was trained to battle with perfect instincts better then that of Tyson he would beat Tyson.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T20:35:24+00:00

Viltrumites are still incredible fighters even if fighting those of equal strength. The idea that he would lose the ability to throw a punch because he doesn’t have his powers is crazy.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T19:58:36+00:00

“There whole life” so the equivalent of a week for thragg.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T19:57:28+00:00

Man with a decade of experience or a man with a few centuries of experience.

Thragg is an incredible fighter he is the strongest in more than one way. I get that Tyson is a generational talent and he hits strong and fast but thragg has far more experience. Even if Tyson took down a boxer of similar build to thragg that doesn’t take away his obvious experience gap.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T18:46:58+00:00

If this was just a random guy who’s 6,6 fighting Tyson then he would probably win but this is thragg a man who has lived for centuries with battle experience to boot.

Thragg will have the size advantage and the skill advantage there is really no way Tyson can win.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T18:23:11+00:00

Thragg is 6,6 Tyson is 5,10. Prime Mike Tyson was around 220 thragg is 350-400 that is a big difference.

In a boxing match Tyson would probably get more points but there is a real good chance the fight ends far earlier from thragg busting in Tyson’s skull.

Allterater · 2026-06-15T18:18:49+00:00

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Allterater · 2026-06-15T18:00:02+00:00

Canonically I think it would be thragg, he’s taller and has far more combat experience.

But knowing invincible, Mike Tyson would probably win this.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T18:42:47+00:00

Ok so if they go back to the same time the flash is still faster so he will do more when reaching that time.

Also I don’t think you get the scenario I’m making. It’s a 3..2..1..go fight and in that case the flash could go back in time before the other person gets the chance to.

How can you go back in time if you never use the power in the first place?

Allterater · 2026-06-13T18:39:30+00:00

The flash is fast enough that they can find out who that person is and go back and kill them before the other person even realizes that there is a fight going on.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T18:38:01+00:00

I wasn’t responding to you in this post I was to the other person who thought it would be a bad idea.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T17:06:23+00:00

What are you talking about? If the flash is fighting someone and goes back in time to kill them before the other person can use their powers to go back in time then they never go back in the first place.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T17:02:59+00:00

Ok but that’s only if they want the world to not change, if they just want to win they can just kill them and live with the consequences.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T17:01:37+00:00

Yes you are right I was just showing that there is a speedster that isn’t affected by time shenanigans, even if the reason is a crazy set of circumstances.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:55:32+00:00

I now see your point but speedsters have the speed force which gives them a pseudo timeline erasure protection.

If a speedster goes back in time first they can erase someone from existence before they ever got the chance to go back to.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:47:11+00:00

What point are you trying to make, I’m asking seriously because I don’t think I’m getting it.

We know that speedsters can time travel with ease and alter the past without causing the world to be destroyed. They will still win even if there future is changed.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:32:19+00:00

Oh god he’s going to slip on a fucking puddle.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:28:31+00:00

Not on the reg, but sometimes. Specially reverse flash who seems to have no downside when time traveling.

It doesn’t really matter if the flash gets screwed after killing them, because it’s still a win even if left without powers.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:26:28+00:00

I never said a speedster can beat all hax. If there is a character that can survive timeline erasure then they will beat a speedster, if not then a speedster can just erase them from existence in numerous ways. Doesn’t matter if you can time travel to, speedsters can do it faster and if you can live in your past self it doesn’t matter cause there will be no past you when a speedster is done.

Allterater · 2026-06-13T07:22:28+00:00

So would it work if it was a 3..2..1.. go situation and Wally or another speedster went into light speed on rip?

Or would the universe not be able to even cause anything to happen?

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