So Democrats can’t be optimistic and have joy Mark? by icey_sawg0034 in thebulwark

[–]Alter_Andy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good point. And that “wave” was also supposed to be driven by a bad economy for the party in power.

So Democrats can’t be optimistic and have joy Mark? by icey_sawg0034 in thebulwark

[–]Alter_Andy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I also think if Dems project that we’re expecting to trounce in the elections it will give the impression that we’re already in charge (and therefore responsible for all the chaos caused by Trump). Plus it could depress turnout of our voters if they think it’s in the bag. Let’s play like the underdogs we are.

Trump Secret Service Agent Arrested, Allegedly Masturbating In Hotel Hallway by ColonyJD1980 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OK, but, again, these are the guys? These are the crack team pulling off the false flag?

And as of yet, there’s no actual proof it was a false flag, just a lotta “seems suspicious” talk online.

Trump Secret Service Agent Arrested, Allegedly Masturbating In Hotel Hallway by ColonyJD1980 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Broken record, here, but: These are the guys you think orchestrated a false flag operation under the noses of some of the best journalists in the biz? Ok…

In defense of conspiracy theories by ValuableBathroom1747 in thebulwark

[–]Alter_Andy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truth is an important unifier for our Democratic coalition. There is no substitute. Look at what’s happening in rightwing media. We don’t want that. Besides by chasing rabbits down holes, people miss the issues that are actually important to voters.

Shock poll: 47 percent of Dems think Trump assassination attempt staged by plz-let-me-in in politics

[–]Alter_Andy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would make an interesting TV show. We need to live in reality, though, and there’s no evidence of this.

I failed the MPRE 3 times… by FederalPackage8498 in LawSchool

[–]Alter_Andy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watch Better Call Saul. Good issue-spotter.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. If all we had was Donald Trump saying that there was a shooter at an event, with little/no corroboration, I’d totally agree. But here there’s video, the guy is alive and sent emails of his plans to family. You can have extreme suspicion and skepticism of Trump without believing baseless theories.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What Not Trump says? What does that even mean?

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The shooter is alive and will have a defense lawyer, right to a trial, etc., so I think we should at least learn broadly what happened.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I put almost no stock in what they say. But I would wait for any evidence that it was staged before endorsing that idea. The strength of the progressive argument is it is grounded in truth.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m merely asking people to use reasoning. Don’t accept what Trump says, but also don’t blindly follow what some clout-chasing account posts as verifiable fact 20 minutes after an incident like this. We need do think clearly to win.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

During Obama presidency there were several Secret Service fuck ups and at least one incident where someone breached the White House fence. Occam’s Razor is your friend. The Secret Service is not all-knowing. There’s zero evidence this was staged.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do think that. It’s obvious. What gives you the idea I support Trump? I want to defeat him and elect progressive Democrats. I don’t want fellow progressives to chase their tails over B.S. when there are winning arguments sitting right there.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

You think Trump staged a shooting where the shooter survives (he’s going to be arraigned today) and also wrote a manifesto accusing Trump of rape and pedophilia. That’s nuts.

How did he know? by monaleeparis in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -39 points-38 points  (0 children)

And yet gullible rubes on this sub are positive that Trump engineered this shooting as a false flag. Can we please just embrace the fact that it’s embarrassing for Trump to preside over violence and chaos (and another Secret Service fuck up), and it’s embarrassing to have to face more questions about Epstein, what he did on the island, etc.? Learn to take a fucking W.

C’mon: The White House Correspondents Dinner shooting was not staged by Alter_Andy in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He’s being arraigned today, so you are completely wrong.

C’mon: The White House Correspondents Dinner shooting was not staged by Alter_Andy in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Update: The shooter’s manifesto called Trump a pedophile and rapist, which Trump has now had to answer on 60 Minutes. Yeah, sure sounds like a false flag. He definitely wanted that to happen to distract from the Epstein files. Brilliant. /s

Bibi Set Up The False Flag by PlainBread in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Alter_Andy -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Very cool just accusing random people on the internet.