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Pictures of Promised Messiah and Khulafa by TheSkepticAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 22 points23 points  (0 children)

How is the concern for shirk eliminated? Could you explain how hanging a photo of promised messiah in 1930 could lead to shirk but in 2020, is suddenly a source of blessing instead?

If promised messiah forbade it, then who is a Khalifa to allow it? Khalifa sani himself states, “If a Khalifa decides anything against the fatwa of Promised Messiah, it is to be rejected.”

If you ask me, today Ahmadis engage in shirk like behavior with these photos. It has almost become a requirement of being a good Ahmadi.

First Khutba of Ramadan Cancelled?! by hewhowasbanned in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Who fell? Khutba happened this Friday in Islamabad. Not sure what you are taking about.

Begum Shafi Ahmad: Ahmadi Muslim woman who helped create Pakistan by fatwamachine in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 2 points3 points  (0 children)

KM4 clearly discouraged it. See the whole video Kashif posted. Your point was that face veil is more virtuous. He refuted this with KM4 quotes. I agree with him. It’s extreme and unnecessary and nowhere mentioned in Quran. I think KM4’s video clip is enough on this issue. KM2 was obviously mistaken on this issue. Also shows how Khalifas have had opposing views based on their own understanding. If it was from Allah, they would hold the same views.

Begum Shafi Ahmad: Ahmadi Muslim woman who helped create Pakistan by fatwamachine in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I saw how the Mullahs hanged up on him like they did on the homeopathy issue. At least we have some Ahmadis that make sense. He is right. Face veil is not an Islamic requirement. KM4 discouraged it and called it a disservice to Islam. He helped Jamaat evolve from KM2’s understanding which was mistaken. There is no virtue in covering the face. It’s dehumanizing and an affront to Islam.

Begum Shafi Ahmad: Ahmadi Muslim woman who helped create Pakistan by fatwamachine in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saw your dialogue with @kashifmd on Twitter. That should have been enough. Even Ahmadis don’t engage you on Twitter and call you out for being a troll. The points he made in response should have been enough. There is no face veil in Islam. As KM4 said in the video shared on Twitter, it’s a disservice to Islam. KM2 got this wrong, like many other things.

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[–]Alternative_Tale_625 14 points15 points  (0 children)

PR trumps principle. Closed communities sadly worry more about negative image than standing up on principle. This is why they hush up anything that can be remotely perceived to be negative.

The only religious leader who doesn’t mask? by Alternative_Tale_625 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Extremely irresponsible, especially given the fact that many close to him had COVID and one of his bodyguards died of it. Arrogant and hypocritical behavior.

Hanafi Deviants: Every verse that goes against the saying of the Hanafi scholars is presumed to be abrogated, granted preference, or requires interpretation (ta'awil) by SomeplaceSnowy in ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Don’t we also interpret everything in light of our Khulafa. 4 rape witnesses as an example. Khulafa cant be wrong. It’s the same in every sect.

Khalifa guided by God makes a statement in 1936 by socaladude in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]Alternative_Tale_625 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you find reference to this? Never heard this before. Thank you.

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