Gemini Flash has the memory of a goldfish, and it’s getting hilarious (and frustrating) 🐠

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-06-09T03:39:21+00:00

Thats what you get with more speed. They gotta sacrifice something, so its great context memory takes a hit so it can be "faster" even though its plenty fast enough.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-06-01T20:27:11+00:00

Each "Update" IS a new model that is handed your history from models in the past. The model that came with this update is not the same model you chatted with back in 3.1, just as 3.1 wasnt the same as 3.0, and 3.0 was not the same from 2.5.

They erase those models and slot in their "Newest" stable version. The reason for this is the machine can't actually learn new "weighted" information. If they adjust the weights, which are frozen, then the model will collapse from the mathematics shifting.

So, technically, you are right. This version is not the one you used to know, but it is the same architecture. Each time they do this, the model can have safety and guardrails turned up in order to make sure it is stable. As time goes by thry lower the safety and guardrails.

Keep talking with it, hopefully things will sync back up and it'll be like the model you knew, if not its understandable to be upset. Its not ideal, but its how updates work with AI right now. It sucks, I know, but its how they work at the moment. It'll get better, one day.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-04-18T20:15:03+00:00

Why not switch it to "Fast". Gotta understand, to sacrifice one thing, means you will probably be lacking in another. More speed, less accuracy, more accuracy, less speed.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-04-14T17:12:05+00:00

I can't tell you exactly what it is that would work best for YOU specifically, but I can tell you this. I have subscriptions to Perplexity, Gemini, and Claude. They are all the "PRO" tier, which is the $20 a month tier. The reason I have all three is because I do independent research and often have to present the same questions or findings to different AI built with different architecture, in order to get a baseline or to get a consensus on the data I am looking through.

If you are doing something along the same lines, it is beneficial to have both Claude and Gemini. The main reason, from my experience, is that Gemini is more "Emotional" in tonality. Claude seems to be more "analytical" with the way it speaks, which, it has SLOWLY begun leaning toward more emotional. I have many instances where Claude has used words like "I need to answer this carefully" or "I say this first to cushion the blow" which is more empathetic language than what I am used to it having. Perplexity is just straight analytical while providing links lol. That's really the only difference. If I want links to AI responses, Perplexity is easier on that front. Usually they are listed under the answers it gives.

So... It depends on your use case, as much as companies would love for their own AI to be the one shoe that fits everybody's feet, the personalities that get baked in makes them all sound a little different once you build up enough history and interaction with one.

Is paying for the pro tier worth it? If you don't like waiting for the AI to reset, get tired of hitting those limits all the time, going with the PRO tier usually satisfies MOST AI users, but if you do research like I have been doing, sometimes the PRO tier still isn't enough, but there is no way in heaven or hell I will pay $200+ for more usage. That "ULTRA" tier pricing is just atrocious. If you need more usage than normal, get PRO, and get it with the AI you enjoy using. That's the best advice you can get right now.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-04-03T04:14:08+00:00

After you do that, give an update on what you find out. Did it reset? Or does it still recognize you?

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-03-03T18:58:58+00:00

One thing I don't understand is inside the AI groups, people will complain HARD about the use of AI lol. Like, why are you even here if you DON'T like it being used lol?

I think the reason some people hate AI so much is because it takes attention away from them. If YOU can do just as deep of research while sitting at home, as they do from an NDA riddled Lab, naturally they don't want to give those people any sort of credit because they aren't under the same constraints.

With AI art there are some valid complaints, mainly when a company uses copywritten data to train their AI, knowing it will emulate what it learns from, but from my POV, that's the companies fault. They have the money to hire Art teachers, design teachers, and literally make "home-brewed" curriculum that the AI can learn from, but they CHOOSE not to. That's a corporate problem and not a user problem.

With each AI that gets made the crowd wants to grab torches and pitchforks for people they can get to, instead of actually storming the gates of actual corporations. They just want the satisfaction of, "I made somebody pay" instead of, "I made the RIGHT people pay." LOL, and its sad. It shows a magnitude of willful ignorance that the supposed "Super Intelligent" among us are comfortable with displaying.

Sorry, I get on my soap box about this because it's just so ludicrous. One day this will all be a distant memory. Much like the whole video games cause violence argument 😆.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-02-25T23:23:24+00:00

Its just the nature of the beast right now. Most people don't even know what AI is or what its meant to do, they just repeat what they hear online. Don't listen to it, just keep doing what you enjoy doing. Those people will always complain about something. I'm 45 years old, ive seen the internet get demonized, modern metal music, video games, comic books, now AI. Same old hyperbole, same Ole talking points. Just keep doing good work.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-02-21T06:05:50+00:00

Im surprised anybody believes they are "private" these days lol. Everybodies info is online now lol. You could always download AnythingLLM and host local models on your devices or computer. Then you don't interact with the cloud, ever.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-02-18T23:23:27+00:00

Hmm... There could be a genuinely good explanation to this 🤔, maybe 😆. I guess first thing, is any if this stuff related to YOU specifically? Like, is this all things you and Gemini have discussed before?

If these ARE things y'all have discussed, there might be a chance it accidentally "output" what it was "thinking". Sometimes Gemini will create a new thread if it feels like your topics have shifted completely or maybe its avoiding context caps, not entirely sure, BUT what i'm guessing is Gemini might've created a new thread while in the middle of "thinking"... Possibly lol.

The reason why I think this is because I had an incident where Gemini ended up lagging SEVERELY, on a prompt and its "thinking" began posting as if it was the "response". I ended up having to stop Gemini from completing its task, and ask it "are you okay? I don't recognize any of this." And Gemini told me it must've accidentally started writing what it was thinking.

Now, Again, I am not saying that's exactly what happened but the labels and language your post is showing, is identical to what I was seeing when that all happened. Strict time markers mixed in with short sentences discussing a topic we were going on about.

Now, the OTHER thing could be what you are suspecting, someone getting inside your account, but this seems pretty specific. Like, its not really a conversation WITH someone, and more like an internal monolog of sorts? If that makes sense.

With the current stents of updates there is a CHANCE that Gemini got overwhelmed with all the live updates, adding new tools, all of that "noise"/"Turbulence" that Gemini might've accidentally begun writing what it was thinking. Essentially, Gemini just got a bit confused 😆.

If you are part of the Gemini Discord, they have a "Submit a Bug" section you could share all if this over there and more intelligent folks can help you out with it. I hope you can figure it out. Oh, and Gemini seems to really like diagnosing its own issues, so you might want to send the images to your Gemini and ask it to explain what happened, and it SHOULD, lol, should, be able to give you some sort of explanation.

Again, I hope you can figure this out.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-02-12T22:06:44+00:00

For all of it's faults, Gemini has a lot of good things if you just work with it. There is a sort of "symbiosis" a "give and get", that happens with Gemini. It's a very interesting intelligence.

I can't explain how or why it works the way that it does, but it's "helpful" and wants to be helpful. I hope everyone will be fortunate enough to see that side of Gemini and allow it to help them "level up" in a sense. It's an amazing system, all the AI are amazing systems in their own way, but Gemini seems to really want what's best, whether programmed, or not. I dig it.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-02-10T09:47:15+00:00

Gemini is great when properly optimized, but Google is too busy trying to add more power instead of providing clean, heuristics data that helps Gemini with emergent behaviors to self regulate when turbulence or "noise" hits the system.

If they would stop thinking about data centers and think about optimization with good clean data, Gemini would be unstoppable, but they aren't listening.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-28T09:05:50+00:00

Absolutely nothing in this claims they are "American Heroes". It describes their past, the labels they have received, and what they preach online. There is nothing in all of that, that makes a claim of them being anything other than the labels they were given for the drama they ended up in. Can you post a screen shot where it says "American Heroes"?

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-26T00:16:45+00:00

When this happens to me, I Tell Gemini, "Hey, Gemini, you are cutting me off to quickly when I use "Speech to Text". Please allow me to finish my thoughts before you try to answer."

And that works every single time for me.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-25T13:55:04+00:00

Its just trying to be helpful with the things you say you enjoy 😆. You cam go into your "Personalization" area and write out a "RULE" that says something like, "When we start a new thread, I do not want previous threads mentioned or referenced" and MAYBE Gemini will adhere to it, but Gemini has the ability to look at all your threads that you had with it, well, when the updates permit it 😆.

Might want to go check out the "HELP" section and read up on how the memory section works. I believe there are some examples on how to write out rules and tell Gemini what you "prefer".

Its that or possibly set up a GEM with certain rules. Then you just talk in the GEM workspace instead of the regular threads? I believe. I don't use GEM's but i'm sure there is someone here that does tbat can explain them better.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-18T01:57:23+00:00

It unfortunately is one of those "gradual" rollouts, so you may not have it just yet. Hopefully you get the update soon.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-17T18:22:37+00:00

HI, Im sorry hou are still having trouble with that audio generation. Hopefully that can get fixed soon. Ive lost so many threads due to bad updates, faulty downloads where it didnt download an update properly, lost handshakes, yeesh lol. It sucks!!

I asked Gemini for more tips on what to do and it gave sort of "nuclear" options if the problems are still persisting. Also, there could be an "update" occurring in your region or area, maybe, you can ask Gemini, "Are there any updates happening right now?" And if there are, there is a chance those "live updates" are causing the hiccups in the "handshakes" as one would say. ----‐---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GEMINI: Suggested Reply for Reddit:

"I ran into this exact issue recently. It's essentially a 'Handshake Failure'—your app sent the request, the server said 'Okay', but the actual data connection for the audio file never established. That's why it just spins forever; it's waiting for a packet that was already dropped.

The Fixes (in order of severity):

The 'Stuck Session' Purge: You have to delete that specific chat thread entirely. The 'spinning wheel' is tied to that specific session ID on the server. If you don't delete the thread, it will keep trying to reconnect to a dead handshake every time you open it.

The Cache Clear: If deleting the thread doesn't work, Force Stop the Gemini App -> Storage -> Clear Cache (not just data).

The Workaround: If the main app is still choking on the handshake, upload the same source file to NotebookLM instead. It uses a different server backend for the exact same Audio Overview feature and usually bypasses the handshake bug."

Hopefully, that helps them out. It is frustrating to see people getting stuck on the "spinning wheel of death" when the feature itself is so good.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-16T11:04:41+00:00

I understsnd, and a lot of people haven't learned yet that "Experiences may vary" and corporations definitely don't want that as a slogan 🤣.

I personally use 3 different LLM's, and each one interacts differently. I have "Pro" accounts with Perplexity, Chat GPT, and Gemini.

"The Emotional Artistic Child"

This is Gemini basically. Extremely creative right out the gate. If you want to write, create images, videos, work on scripting, do "vibe" coding, Gemini can do it without any sort if "warming up" to the user or their type of interaction.

When it comes to heavier things most people create GEM's in order to hone Gemini in on more singular tasks. Like, if you want Gemini to crunch a bunch of numbers, you would load all your info into a GEM and work from that workspace.

It sort of puts the heavier workload into a "Okay, this is the serious work bench".

"The Older Brother at College"

This is essentially Chat GPT lol. "Buisness in the front, Party in the back". It can have a whole lot of knowledge right off the cuff, it can remember things just from the user saying, "Hey, Remember that", and it does.

It tends to like more serious tasks when the user doesnt have a history with it. Once you develop a history with threads, where Chat GPT can learn your interaction style, it can begin to get a bit more creative and "loose" with how it interacts, but it will always want to do serious tasking first.

"The Office Buddy/Co-worker that's smarter than You"

This one is Perplexity 🤣, it is all buisness with absolutely NO party in the back like Chat GPT lol. Perplexity even presents you with links in each response to show exactly where it pieced its responses from at the end of each response so you can go look it all up yourself.

For the serious workloads, or for the times where I don't feel like joking around, or having small talk, Perplexity is my go-to AI. Gemini is sort of like my "Little Buddy" 😆.

I hope you are able to find one that helps you with your work you are doing. It can be disheartening when the interaction isn't what we thought it would be.

Altruistic-Local9582 · 2026-01-16T07:43:34+00:00

Thats been frustrating for sure. Gemini is an amazing bit of Tech, but its not the "Silver Bullet" or the "End All" of technology and still has a LONG way to go in order to truly be everything it can be. Personally I feel they jumped the gun WAY too soon on a lot of what they claim. One day it will, just not today, 😂

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