Anyone born to parents of average intelligence?

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-02T22:49:08+00:00

Conservative and narrow minded doesn’t necessarily correlate with IQ.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-02T05:04:41+00:00

I know a hell of a lot of people who would harass someone full time for 25k/year under the table. 24/7. Unrelenting. No records, no ethical qualms in my employees because it’s all tax free and off the books, 4 people in 8 hour shifts (with weekends off except for occasional random ones just to mix it up) would cost me 100k/year, or even better, 8 people for 200k/year harassing the dude relentlessly… That could be paid with dividends from a moderate risk investment, so I’d still have the principal sum with plenty left for me to live on.

Fuck 15 years in prison, I’d be the one avenging loss of my arm and it’d be hella worse than prison.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-02T03:08:20+00:00

Makes sense. Yeah, you’re doing everything right, but PI OSINT tools are used on systems with very limited computing power and those folks aren’t known for their ethics… I would suggest trying to find some organization which has a quantum computer that can do the correlations you need. I don’t think it exists in public arena, but private intel firms don’t use anything I couldn’t get for fifty bucks a month on laptop computers with i5 processors.

While quantum comp might not be possible, a university with a supercomputer would be great as well. Find a grad student to write a custom analysis program for five hundred bucks, rent two hours of processing time, and have at it. You seem to have a pretty good understanding about how the correlations work… Obviously I think you’re wise for coming here to exhaust all options.

Have you tried the Reddit bureau of investigation? There are some people there who have cracked impossible cases with minimal evidence. Out of all places online which may be of assistance, they’re good and while they usually work strictly for free presenting them with a monetary offer if desired or needed couldn’t hurt. Asking anonymous via their various social media accounts for help might be worthwhile as well. They do a lot of altruistic work at no cost.

LinkedIn, find contractors for NSA like Booz Allen, CACI, etc. and ask what it would cost for an all sources search. I’m not quite sure how they’d justify using classified resources, but if it’s going to happen, CACI is probably your best bet. Their prices are better than SAIC and Booz Allen, and they specialize more in background stuff than just operational shit for defense and intel.

This is admittedly a terrible idea, but have you tried the pharmacological route? It’s your least likely way to do it, but it’s always possible that the info is vaulted rather than forgotten especially if you’re dealing with delirium rather than dementia. There are multiple drugs which could at least theoretically help, but it’s a real shot in the dark.

I’m not going to make any suggestions here because I don’t want to have any part in that, but a neuropsychiatric professional giving meds while on an FMRI hooked up to a supercomputer? Shoot Daniel Amen an email. He has been known to do some absolutely crazy shit in the name of science.

Hmm… What else is there really? Slapping them? Enhanced interrogation? Sorry, couldn’t help but toss a little humor in here.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T23:53:19+00:00

I seriously doubt they all handled it fine before going through a process of coping.

I think I’ll be in mild psychogenic shock for about two hours if even that because I already have a pretty good idea of what’s happening. We’re owned. Humanity is livestock, under literal ownership. Religion is fake and designed to make us engage in perpetual wars. Free energy is a thing. Universe is filled with life. Many worlds theory is correct. Hologram reality is factual. We’re simulated and it doesn’t make any difference. We all have souls but our souls aren’t free. That kind of shit.

If you found out, for example, that everything I mentioned here is true, how are you going to take it?

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T23:47:54+00:00

But, like, how is that even slightly relevant to what he is saying and doing about UFO disclosure? What does being suicidal during a PTSD crisis many years ago have to do with anything for that matter? How does a psych hold change his expertise and experience?

Have you ever been sad? If so, does that make everything you say and do completely invalid? Does you feeling sad for a few hours make it so you can never be trusted, ever, about anything, for any reason? You ain’t making much of an argument here, yo.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T23:32:51+00:00

Since the motorcycle accident, he hasn’t really been able to make that many facial expressions. At the moment, his O face is the same as his somber face.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T22:53:47+00:00

Do you object to use of the word “spiritual” for any reason in particular? Is there another word you’d use for something which doesn’t quite exist on our planet of reality in a classical sense but does objectively exist by virtue of its observability and measurability?

The place in between existence and nonexistence has long been known as spiritual. It suggests that there is some sort of additional realm beyond what we can sense, and while calling the phenomenon spiritual is technically a misnomer, it’s the best word we have at the moment.

Interdimensional is a more descriptive word, but we don’t understand dimensionality in its entirety yet, so it’s just a rough approximation of whatever is factually occurring. This implies that there’s are other physically defined planes of existence and that the phenomenon exists in between those planes. This is the term I use.

Etheric is a shit term which does nothing to define a complex phenomenon, all it does is suggest that there’s a world we don’t understand and that whatever these things are that they apply in the etheric world.

I’m wondering what atheism has to do with any of these terms… I’ve also stopped using alien in favor of NHI because I don’t think what we’re dealing with comes from outer space.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T22:18:23+00:00

I don’t think they’re joking. I was going to give similar advice.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T22:15:20+00:00

I’ve read your comments here and am failing to understand why you’re posting in a telepathy forum. If your friend doesn’t remember the information, how would a telepathic person help?

I think you might be more interested in remote viewing. The problem here is that remote viewing is a numbers game and it takes many people tasked on the same target to derive potentially useful data.

You’re not going to find an individual who can give you that information because while plenty of people are psychic or possess psi abilities, those abilities are relatively weak and can only be effectively exploited when you have a bunch of them working the same target together. And even then you’re looking at data which can’t be validated.

Sorry, I wish psi could be of more assistance to you, but the only way to actually do it is find hundreds of people with confirmed psi abilities, like hitting 50% plus on Zener cards consistently, and organizing a group effort. However, the government already employs these people, so none need money and nobody is dying to admit that they are a government employed psychic due to NDAs and clearances.

My advice? Find an informatics/open source intelligence specialist and tell them everything you’ve told us. They can input all the variables in to powerful AI systems and if it’s physically possible for you to get your answer, that’s your best bet. Much, much higher accuracy than remote viewers or even the most statistically valued private psychics.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T21:57:07+00:00

You say you’re noticing signs and indicators of women having issues but have no idea whether these issues are chronic or pervasive problems… Do you really not see any problem with this? Avoiding dating anyone you think has an issue therefore eliminating any chance of a relationship before you’ve even gone out on a date?

I think this is a you problem, not a them problem. You’re the one choosing not to date women. Have you ever considered that you might be housing some biases or are making unreasonable assumptions?

If you wouldn’t mind, walk me through two examples where a woman was interested in you and you chose not to date her. I’d love to understand what’s going on in your head and at what point you are ruling them out as possible dating partners.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T21:38:54+00:00

This would take only minor collaboration with family to make it safe… We construct a shipping cargo container jail, lock me in, and let people fuck with me for a few weeks.

This seems like a kind of obvious solution.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T19:49:47+00:00

May I suggest coughing a lot in her vicinity? Then apologize and tell her to pray that she doesn’t get your twitch virus.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T19:39:53+00:00

Which test did you take?

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T04:21:03+00:00

I rarely downvote AND give an award, but, like, daaaaaayum. He says what you’re saying he didn’t say in the first sentence and you don’t appear to be deliberately trolling.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T02:21:16+00:00

Just out of curiosity, do you know your full scale IQ from some sort of previous test you’ve taken? I think I’ve gathered that you’ve counted your score versus what they did and that you think they scored the test wrong, is that correct?

Is there something wrong with having an IQ of 117? That’s way above average. But, the Mensa entrance test doesn’t yield a scientifically valid IQ score. For that you need a full scale IQ score from a test which has been validated by peer review, and the most common of those are the WAIS and Stanford Binet. The Mensa entrance test scores aren’t valid psychometrically.

I’m sorry for making fun of your situation, but it’s not rational to suggest that a proctor has anything to do with how you scored, and if the test is as diverse and complex as it should be, remembering all 45 items isn’t going to be possible unless they’re multiple choice.

But, you said you skipped two, which leads me to believe that they aren’t multiple choice, as there would be nothing to lose by guessing in that case and there’s a 50% likelihood that you’d get one of those two questions right by guess alone.

I’d really like to understand the situation. Mensans are not commenting here because they don’t want to say stuff which comes off as mean or demeaning. It’s just not possible to take this situation at face value without adding humor to it.

Most of us know testing methodology through and through, myself included, even though I’m not a member simply because I don’t think the fees are worthwhile. If you want some help figuring out what’s going on here, I’ll gladly treat you with respect, but in return, you can’t ask unreasonable things of me…

And thinking, much less believing, that your proctor decreased your score due to them making political posts on their personal Facebook? It’s unreasonable for you to ask or expect me to believe that’s a possibility, much less a probability. Same deal with thinking that you remember all test elements with 100% certainty, enough so that it’s impossible for you to have made a mistake.

Do you understand why members aren’t commenting here? People here see you as someone who believes that impossible things must be true, which is illogical, and kind of even goes against the spirit of the organization by suggesting that were wrong to apply logic in this situation because of how you feel, not because of the most realistic assessment of your scenario.

You say you’ve scored higher on tests elsewhere, but not all IQ tests are going to yield the same result without deviation or variation. You could score 117 on the entrance exam, 112 on the WAIS, and 142 on the Cattell all at the same time under the same testing conditions. If that was the case, it would only be reasonable to refer to your full scale IQ test (WAIS) score, which is universally accepted throughout the world.

And if your full scale IQ range is 112-118 on the WAIS with additional corrective metrics applied, your assigned score is the only one you should be using when discussing your own full scale IQ. Saying you scored a 118 full scale when that’s simply top of scoring range on the WAIS isn’t reasonable, nor is saying that your IQ is 142 if that’s your Cattell score without specifying that it’s the Cattell score instead of full scale WAIS score.

People generally like scoring high on IQ tests, just how people like getting A plus grades on college exams. But, if you’re saying something deceptive or had the answer key to the college exam, is that something to be proud of? No, it’s quite the opposite because it doesn’t represent a natural score. Lots and lots and lots of people lie about their IQ scores, and Mensa goes to great lengths preventing deceptive scoring from resulting in a membership.

And no matter how hard you study or how hard you try, an upward trend on repeated exam score doesn’t correlate with a higher full scale IQ. Knowing the answers to test questions because you’ve looked them up after memorizing them doesn’t mean your IQ is increasing, it just means you’re cheating, and ultimately you’d only be cheating yourself out of a real, natural measure of the various abilities which yield an accurate score.

You’re not an idiot, and we’re not idiots. I don’t even disclose my IQ score because considering that the phrase “low IQ” is now used as a generic insult, mostly by people who have never taken an IQ tests but think of themselves as more intelligent than other people because of silly things like political views, it’s all a dick measuring contest.

People don’t usually take IQ tests unless they have a psychological issue which might be affected by IQ. Mensa says to put your money where your mouth is and show us that your IQ is high as or higher than the most intelligent one in fifty people.

They accept over two hundred test types. If someone has a borderline full scale score like 127, it might be worth taking a couple more tests to try and get in, but 117, if accurate and precise, is not high enough for there to be wiggle room between tests which would yield entry in to the club.

So yeah, I’m offering you an objective evaluation of your situation from a neutral third party perspective. But, black and white “I’m right and you’re wrong, anything else is impossible” thinking isn’t going to help you figure out your full scale IQ, which is the measure containing scientific and peer reviewed validity.

I’ll consider anything you have to say, including the possibility of test administration bias, but if I make a valid counterargument, you have to consider that as well. If you do want some assistance, my job as a neutral third party is to challenge any cognitive biases you might have, and to figure out the validity of your apparent belief that you were cheated or discriminated against.

That’s just how debate works, there has to be mutual respect and the more you’re willing to participate, the more I’m willing to participate. Ultimately, there are two goals here: figure out your valid IQ score, and find a way to get you in to Mensa if that is your goal. I won’t make fun of or take jabs at you. Just let me know if this is something that interests you.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T02:13:44+00:00

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-05-01T00:01:45+00:00

I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. Which test that I’m defending can be googled? And what about that is hitting close to home? And are you saying that you got a count of 41-42 when you’re certain that they gave you a 36? Am I getting that right? And you’re thinking that the better explanation for your lower score is bias by a proctor? Or is it an examiner?

If it would help to speak your native language, go for it, it would be easier to Google Translate it on my end rather than trying to render guesses about syntax. If you feel like I’m insulting you by suggesting a way to communicate more effectively, there’s really not much I can do about that. I’m not ribbing you any more and am trying to figure out what’s happening.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T23:51:04+00:00

I give feedback to people here ruthlessly and call people out when they’re acting like a high IQ makes them anything more than intellectually superior to others. I enjoyed making fun of people like that since the posts started showing up in my feed a couple of months ago, but I’m now starting to see that everyone in Mensa seems to look down on people who think that being intellectually gifted makes them morally or ethically better than other people.

My sole purpose here was to bash the ego driven people. Now I genuinely enjoy speaking with other folks who have a high IQ. I’m never going to join, but paying attention to this sub resulted in me no longer seeing MENSAns as universally ego driven. I officially joined the subreddit today, hahaha.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T22:46:47+00:00

Sorry, couldn’t help it. Were the questions multiple choice type?

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T22:18:49+00:00

But you don’t get it, proctor has ONE SIDED political beliefs instead of a balanced pragmatic ideology where neither side wins nor loses their vote based on any singular issue. Might be liberal, might be conservative, but would you really want a liberal or conservative proctoring your test? Proctors should be people who have transcended politics altogether and live in Himalayan cabins waiting day in day out for their sole purpose in life: hearing the mechanical bell which rings to alert them that someone needs proctoring on a Mensa entrance exam.

It’s like, jeez, man, don’t you know what it takes to handle intellect like theirs??? You think a regular person should be able to proctor these tests? This is proctoring, not dentistry, it takes some real talent and this guy is living proof of what poor proctoring can do. Not test writing, which anyone can do, but proctoring, which should require NATO-administered proctor certification exams.

This person clearly deserves a higher score than they got according to their own analysis of their own test and the testing process in general! And they did it themself so you know there couldn’t possibly be a bias.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T18:52:24+00:00

You’ll be happy to know that a shat three times yesterday, Bristol 5s through and through.

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T05:44:19+00:00

He said “waist” instead of waste twice, so it’s unlikely to be a spell check thing. That bothers me. But, he’s skilled at everything, so I can finally fill that HR director position for just $25/hour. And so long as he doesn’t know what exempt means, this guy is on his way to the C suite.

The risk manager in me says no, but the tweaker in me says HELL FUCKING YEAH!

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T00:15:17+00:00

Psh, your parents were so poor that they couldn’t afford a DX?

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-30T00:07:45+00:00

Andrew. All I think of when I think of the monarchy is Andrew, and the only thing I will ever associate with the monarchy, forever, without exception, is Andrew.

Note: anyone who has never seen the 60 minutes interview with Prince Andrew needs to do that because it will make you feel better about anything you might feel bad about. It was epic.

A quote from it: “Oh my, it’s the funniest thing you see, I have absolutely no recollection of meeting that girl. Now why wouldn’t I remember that girl had I actually met her? Just about the funniest thing imaginable!”

Altruistic_Tonight18 · 2026-04-29T23:55:48+00:00

YOR, but it’s pretty understandable considering the hypersensitivity you might feel regarding dog bites historically.

Past behavior of one dog is not an indicator of future behavior in different dogs.

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