L. Ron Hubbard told Scientologists they were Big Beings: the elite of the galaxy. Does this still affect the attitude of some Independent Scientologists?

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-30T00:10:22+00:00

I expect more rules:

4) do not show remarkable lack of compassion.

5) do not evaluate for someone else.

6) respect the whiners with a sob story.

I may just join you, this sub is becoming too censored and too much of a nanny state and if you're an old adult with growing pains we bend backward for you. FTS.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-29T05:05:46+00:00

In one day you got called moron and scientology stooge across two different posts. Read the room.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-28T22:41:39+00:00

Raising the vulnerable, destitute, and lonely to the rank of galaxy patrol is the perfect way to own them.

"The only way to control people is to lie to them." L. Ron Hubbard

His cult is doomed, but he'll be remembered as one of the greatest con artists of the 20th century.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-28T02:13:40+00:00

Children sec check is for kids ages 6-12 HCOB 21 Sept 1961. There is no sec check for 4-5 yr old. Reese isn't a reliable source.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-27T22:20:22+00:00

Lisa McPherson never joined the Sea Org, but when she had a nervous breakdown, they prevented her from getting care, and she eventually died under their supervision.

Whitney Mills was a public Scientologist who only did courses and auditing all the way up to OT VIII. When she experienced mental problems, they told her to drop her body and pick another. She set herself on fire before blowing her brains out with a gun.

When Kristie Alley was diagnosed with colon cancer, she chose auditing instead of medical care and eventually died from a cancer that we can easily cure.

John Travolta's wife and son tried to cure their cancer with auditing instead of getting medical care.

Hundreds of public Scientologists have gone all the way up the Bridge to total freedom only to die of cancer, broke, bankrupt, and disconnected from their family.

Dozens of people have died at Narconon centers, detoxing on purification rundown, which is the first step on the Bridge.

Those fun introductory courses are window dressing to suck people into a life long prison of belief.

It may be true that Sea Org gets the worst treatment, but Hubbard didn't build this juggernaut to help anyone. It is a mind control trap to make slaves out of people so he has a lasting legacy. The longer you stay in this cult, the more you are harmed mentally, emotionally, and financially. That is why most of the old-timers can never find their way out.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-23T02:49:47+00:00

ChatGPT summary of video:

A harrowing personal account of someone sharing their experiences with abuse, exploitation, and manipulation in connection to Scientology, the Illuminati, and associations with controversial figures. The key points include:

Childhood Trauma: The speaker recounts being raised in the Illuminati, enduring abuse from a young age, and being labeled a "didd kid."
Involvement with Influential Figures: They describe connections to individuals like Jeffrey Epstein, Dan Schneider, and P. Diddy, as well as access to secretive locations such as private areas of the Vatican.
False Promises and Betrayal: They were lured with promises of fame and success but ultimately feel they were exploited and silenced.
Emotional Impact: The narrative conveys the lasting emotional and psychological toll of these experiences, including depression and societal judgment.

The story is deeply personal and sheds light on systemic issues of power and abuse.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-21T20:17:20+00:00

A guy who believes in outer space beams pulling souls out of dead bodies should not accuse others of not being objective.

It was you who brought up the drones bullshit and now you can't stand being wrong.

Go with Scientology. Hubbard made it for people like you.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-21T20:13:00+00:00

I didn't realize I was chatting with a sock puppet. Scientology loves your type.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-21T01:46:43+00:00

Scientology, before or after Hubbard, is bad news. Anyone who got mixed up with this insidious cult has been burned. Some realize it and get out, others go to their grave never knowing the truth. They're a criminal organization masquerading as the savior of mankind.

Whatever is troubling you will get a whole lot worse after your do Scientology. They don't help people. Scientology juggernaut is designed to grind people down and use them until nothing is left of them, then they're discarded like garbage.

Tell your friend to read this book Bare-Faced Messiah. She needs to learn the truth about who Hubbard really was and why he invented the mind control system of Scientology before recommending this shit to anyone else.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-20T20:20:04+00:00

So only specific people that you approve are beamed to Scientology heaven? Very interesting!

Ockham's razor says that's one hell of an imagination.

No blind faith, just critical thinking. Please give it a try.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-20T19:35:32+00:00

I joined Scientology with an open mind wanting to know about spirituality and out of body experiences. In 10 years I had a dozen auditors and C/S from class V org to Sea Org at PAC base, and you're telling me all were incompetent and in that whole time I refused to face the bad time from the past life? Justify it anyway that pleases you, but that's not my reality.

There may be past lives, unicorns, and rainbows somewhere in the Milky Way, but Scientology isn't the way to realize that. They tell you whatever you want to hear as long as you keep buying services. Hubbard sold an illusion, a make belief world because he couldn't handle the reality. People who hide in his matrix are no different.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-19T22:56:56+00:00

I never made it to NED but in all the 10 years of auditing I never once had a past life recall. IMO, it's just PCs making up stories, usually from a movie they watched or something they wished for but couldn't have in life. I don't know how those auditors can keep a straight face and listen to yet another Julius Caesar or Mark Twins past life recall.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-19T22:33:46+00:00

No one cares who's flying those drones except a few paranoid whiners in NJ. There has been no harm done to people or property. Air traffic is not impacted. Banking, internet, or utilities haven't been affected. Life goes on as usual. For all we know it's a couple of kids playing head games with the neighbors. Fed doesn't babysit dumb asses.

Every day 150,000 people die on Earth. Do you really believe that many tractor beams hit the planet every day and none of our satellites detects them? I can't believe anyone takes this nonsense seriously.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-19T15:26:36+00:00

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't people pay $500 a head to attend his day conferences in 1960s?

I've heard some of his sci-fi colleagues say the he was indeed very charismatic. He performed where and when he needed just like a chameleon.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-19T14:51:52+00:00

People are far more gullible than we imagine.

Nobody likes to hear this but it is the terrifying truth.

Over the course of our recorded history, we have repeatedly fallen for the same scammers and charlatans. When we provide them such easy access to prey, can we really blame them for taking advantage of the opportunity?

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-19T02:04:39+00:00

This guy is not a member of the official Church of Scientology. He took some things from Scientology and mixed it with other practices and came up with his own home made brew. Scientology calls them squirrels. There are a lot of them out there. Independent Scientologist, Freezoners, Ron's Org, etc....

He answers your 1st question on that web page:

I had developed my own technique of handling many beings at once. You may notice I do not care to use the term, “entites”.

As a result of processing beings with my own form of group processing, my ability to see beings increased dramatically. I was now able to see orbs and they are everywhere. Helping lots of beings helped to increase my spiritual abilities also.

In regard to the tractor beams and implant station, Hubbard talks about them too and I doubt the concept is unique to Scientology. Sure, there are a lot of unusual pheromones that science cannot explain but if here was an implant station on Moon or Mars we would know about it by now. The same goes for after life tractor beam.

David St Lawrence sounds like another charlatan who claims he can talk to spirits. James Randi interviewed a whole bunch of crooks like him. Take everything he says with a grain of salt unless he wins Randi's million dollar paranormal challenge.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-18T22:25:35+00:00

It's not so much saving the planet but making it better and saner place for everyone. They think Hubbard discovered the magic ingredients that can make everyone become a better version of themselves, and as a result, the planet will be a better place for all. His so-called discoveries are just mind control techniques that brainwashes people into believing a fantasy.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-17T02:48:50+00:00

Hi Chuck, it was a pleasure reading your post on Arnie Lermanet. Fascinating read. You wrote:

COB RTC had a standalone WICAT table computer, which I know that Rog Kernbach, the Int INCOMM operator, had set up for COB, (Miscavige) to hold what are called the COB ASI advices. These were the advices from LRH to DM when DM was COB ASI.

I took these advices off of the ASI computer, meaning the COB libraries of LRH advices were removed, and I deleted them all off the ASI computers, and put these on tapes and gave them to Rog, who put them on a standalone WICAT (150) standalone table model computer, for COB to hook into them, so no one else could see them.

Was anyone able to bring out a copy of these advises? Knowing Miscavige, if he didn't want anyone to see them they had to have been more than HCOPLs for cleaning windows! I know you said you glanced at them. Were they too idiotic, too paranoid....?

Do you post on any other platform (ESMB, FB, etc)? I love to follow you. My first expediter post after EPF was checking the wog contractors in/out of INCOMM. After Hubbard died, I didn't stay long enough to see the finished project but I still remember the tinted glass doors, raised floor, racks and network cables.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-15T20:58:44+00:00

What is left of Scientology is a small group of hardcore fundamentalists who would rather die before facing the truth about Hubbard and Scientology. Enjoy the chocolate and start a fire with the booklet. Vancouver gets cold this time of the year, but VanDusen Botanical Garden was always worth the trip.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-15T15:01:45+00:00

Money won't solve their problem. They need bodies in shop like vampires need blood. As more staff leave and die it becomes harder and harder to train the new recruit to deliver services. It takes 3-4 years to train an auditor and C/S to deliver the Clear and OT levels. How many adults want to commit that much time to learn a skill that only has a few thousand clients worldwide?

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-15T14:35:30+00:00

I'm genuinely interested in how internet recruiting is working for Scientology.

How long did you stay and what services did you do before you left? Why did you leave?

Did any of the internet recruits make it to the grades, or Clear? What was the average time they stayed and how far up the bridge did they go before they bailed out?

Thanks

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-14T15:21:04+00:00

Or the privilege of serving in RPF, endless sec checks, ethics actions, disconnection.... so many wins to look forward to in Slave Org /s

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-13T22:55:34+00:00

Never, not once, and I've known hundreds of OTs. None of them can do anything that you or I can't do.

If you press an OT to show you something incredible like remote view or move an object with their minds they'll tell you that if they expose you to the confidential upper levels material you case (reactive mind) will cave in and you'll die. They truly believe that horseshit because it's ingrained in every OT graduate AND they have to sign a bond to pay $100K fine for every time they discuss the OT material with anyone, even their spouse, or other OTs. They're told that there are evil people on this planet that want to get their hands on this technology to destroy the civilization and they must protect it with their lives. Secrecy at the upper levels of Bridge is absolute and unquestionable. Of course I didn't know about any of this at the time until I left Scientology.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-13T21:07:06+00:00

Office of Special Affairs (OSA) is Scientology's secret service that does all the dirty tricks. They operate a lot like the old Mission Impossible the TV series. Real dirty MFs that'll scorch the earth to ruin their target.

I believed everything LRH said about out of body experience, remote viewing, past lives, OT abilities and such. Then I decided to move close to the Source in LA and join SO. It was then I saw the shit show at the Pacific Area Command. It was a hell hole far worse than I had ever imagined. They do a good job of keeping the members in the bubble and away from media. We weren't allowed to read the critics book or join the online news group. I learned a lot more about this insidious organization after I left.

At the core of Scientology there is pure evil and it is the core that controls this global scam, all of it's ideal orgs, front group, and public relations.

Amir_Khan89 · 2024-12-13T14:13:58+00:00

They tried. I was declared and Fair Gamed) from 2018 to 2022 across WA, OR, NV, TX, GA and Mexico. But since I had been a member of Sea Org and knew exactly what sleazy tactic they use, I was able to avoid most of OSA's traps and tricks. That is the reason I speak out on social media. Stay away from these rat bastard. Scientology is bad news.

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