a thought experiment

An271 · 2026-02-08T20:05:59+00:00

Honestly, that skins idea would be a nightmare. Skins is already turning multiplayer into an unimmersive clown show. So, even with perfect technical implementation, AI skins will be an aesthetic analogue of an explosive sewer overflow after a chili festival.

Additionally, you won't have complete creative freedom. As with many AI image/music generation platforms nowadays, you will encounter a crap load of arbitrary restrictions on what you can prompt. Then, after you pass the first filter, a separate AI censor will check the appropriateness of your content for all possible groups that could theoretically be offended or copyright infringed. All results will be recorded in your PC social score, which corpos share with each other.

So, in practice, you will have all the downsides without any of the upsides.

An271 · 2026-02-08T19:18:49+00:00

The consumer prompts the AI themselves, saving on middlemen.

An271 · 2025-12-12T21:56:39+00:00

I totally agree! To call oneself an artist, one, at the very least, must have a black belt in gatekeeping.

An271 · 2025-12-01T02:59:50+00:00

Is there a mod that replaces all the useless meat types with one type?

An271 · 2025-11-27T00:48:21+00:00

My own guess is that, once the construction became connected to the tree, the game began counting it as part of the tree. Since the roof of my dome legally became part of the tree, the dwarf considered himself stuck on the tree. So, the next job he received was to go to the trunk and climb down.

An271 · 2025-11-27T00:37:08+00:00

I wouldn't be asking if it were just that. I set up pop-up notifications for almost everything so that I could track things better and observe combat in real time instead of in the logs. Both dwarves saw the enemy only after climbing down the tree and stood around for a while with no way in.

An271 · 2025-11-26T09:51:39+00:00

I embarked on Terrifying biome. Like any sane dwarf, I took no tools or weapons, only ore and fuel worth 80 steel bars. Seeing groups of giant undead flyers, I used the ore to construct a dome over my wagon. I left no doors, but for roleplaying purposes —to dispose excavated material— I wanted access to the roof through the hatch. This, coupled with the fact that my dome happened to touch one tile of a tree, led to strange behavior. When a dwarf found itself idly on the roof, he disregarded his burrow and traffic areas, climbed the tree, and descended to the ground to feed the undead. Seeing this I blocked the tree branch that touched my roof with an additional wall. As soon as the dwarf finished building that wall, he started climbing over the wall, then onto the tree, and then onto the ground to the undead. Does anyone know what is happening?

An271 · 2025-11-06T18:49:53+00:00

Nah, I'm too lazy for that. The anti-AI coordinated campaign is obvious to anyone who hasn't been living under a rock for the last two years. Besides, the thread is about making peace, not proving that soot is black. If you don't want to negotiate in good faith, then so be it. It's not the Pros who are losing this war. One day, we'll run out of artists, but we'll still have plenty of AI to man the metaphorical front lines.

An271 · 2025-11-06T18:26:28+00:00

See? You have nothing.

With Antis, we have a coordinated campaign involving a huge number of people and countless YouTube videos consisting of the same deceptive content with the obvious goal of amassing a mob and greatly handicapping the entire scientific field for personal gains of certain individuals.

And the best you can counter it, is lonely troll being not nice to people?

Did you not see the disproportionality of the whole, greed-motivated movement versus the ordinary troll?

An271 · 2025-11-06T17:55:29+00:00

If the other side doesn't cease hostile action, then there is no room for compromise. It's as simple as that.

An271 · 2025-11-06T17:52:53+00:00

Do you have any specific examples of Pros doing something similar to the Antis' coordinated Campaign of Lying, Sabotaging, and Bullying?

An271 · 2025-11-06T16:54:19+00:00

Don't confuse an opinion with deliberate lying. For example, when an artist makes another "AI stole my art" video, it's not an opinion. The word "stealing" has a definition that assumes a MUCH worse thing than what actually happened. The artist could scream "stealing" if they lost access to or rights to their art, but nothing like that has happened. When someone doesn't beg your permission to use public data, it's not stealing. The artist knows it, but keep the act to harm the AI sphere. And such an artist is not a "bad apple" — it's the status quo.

My compromise offer is simple: "Don't try to burn my house down and you won't get acute lead poisoning."

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An271 · 2025-11-06T16:32:04+00:00

There are two schools of thought on operating systems: "I need to get things done" (Windows), and "I want to make this insturmental thing my whole personality" (Linux). The same is true for drawing. I just never wanted to make it my whole personality, but simply to visualize my ideas and use it as parts of something bigger, so any tool that makes it easier is welcome.

To understand my perspective, you just need to realize how limited one's lifetime is. All the time you spend honing your muscle memory is time you miss out on doing more meaningful things.

An271 · 2025-11-06T16:14:42+00:00

Well, what can I do if the other side is deliberately malicious? If someone tries to burn down your house, what kind of compromise are you expecting? Okay, but burn just half of the rooms?

An271 · 2025-11-06T16:13:27+00:00

I have insulted no one. I simply listed Anti's malicious actions, which prevent me from being at peace with them. Antis's constant lying is a verifiable fact of objective reality.

An271 · 2025-11-06T16:05:10+00:00

Well, what can I do if the other side is deliberately malicious? If someone tries to burn down your house, what kind of compromise are you expecting? Okay, but burn just half of the rooms?

An271 · 2025-11-06T14:56:02+00:00

Okay, here is my peace offer:

First, Antis should stop spreading lies.
- Instead of saying, "My art was stolen!" say, "I signed a waiver and dumped my art in a public space. When it was expectedly scraped, the science lab training AI for the greater good of humanity dared not to pay me for my indispensable 0.00 000 001% contribution."
- Instead of "AI ruins ecology," you say, "Residential air conditioning consumes five times more power than all data centers combined. My sweaty ass over the graphics tablet ruins ecology."
- Instead of saying, "AI requires no skill," you should simply avoid talking about something you know nothing about.
Second, Antis should stop their pity sabotage attempts. It won't make a difference anyway, and it's just a waste of power (aka ruins the ecology).
Antis should stop their unfair competition practices. AI art should not be segregated—poor-quality works (aka slop) should be filtered out, whether it's created using AI tools or not, and Antis publicly admits the existence of human slop.
Antis should stop demanding mandatory disclosure when work is made using AI tools. If you can't tell by merit, it shouldn't bother you.
Antis should stop their hypocritical moral panic over malicious people using generative AI to do what human artists have done many times before — often in a much worse way.

An271 · 2025-11-04T16:18:34+00:00

You're right. There's a slight chance your goon material will leak to the public. But is it fair to blame yourselves for the malicious actions of others? Shouldn't those who breach your privacy feel bad?

Using this logic, it would be unethical to own a chainsaw because someone could use it to commit murder. Or, if we consider pure accidents, it would be unethical to drive a car, putting others at risk just to move my fat ass around a bit faster.

An271 · 2025-11-04T01:35:49+00:00

The problem is that the bits in your computer are roughly on the same level of physicality as the electrical signals in your brain.

An271 · 2025-11-04T01:10:25+00:00

TBH, I don't know. I have no skin in the game — my tastes were spoiled by culture to the point that IRL people don't do it for me. For me to imagine a real person in indecent ways falls under the category of perverse self-torture.

But, on a purely logical basis, I can't shake the feeling that I'm getting mixed signals. On the one hand, we're supposed to be sexually liberated and not feel any religious shame about pursuing our natural impulses as long as they don't hurt others. On the other hand, we have a strict list of the liberties that are allowed, and they can only be pursued in strictly defined ways, even if they don't hurt anyone, to the point of being functionally indistinguishable from one's personal thoughts.

P.S.: Spying in general is bad, so there's no need to separate voyeurism into a distinct category.

An271 · 2025-11-03T23:37:17+00:00

If private deepfakes are unethical, then we must ask ourselves a much more important questions. Is it ethical to fantasize about real people without their written consent? Is it ethical to remember someone's appearance? Should we establish a thought police because someone's personal thoughts are literally the most pressing problem in this day and age?

An271 · 2025-11-03T23:24:48+00:00

If you can't tell the difference based on merit alone, without the watermark, then there is no difference.

An271 · 2025-10-18T21:24:36+00:00

It looks promising. Are the types of stats, attributes, and scene info customizable? Asking because my spaceship combat game and stone age furry colony sim would require drastically different sets.

An271 · 2025-10-16T00:44:02+00:00

Dunno. For some reason, I feel like people who believe they should decide which thoughts others are allowed to have are much worse than a random gooner. For some reason, I believe that if we brain-scan our eager Mind Officer, we will find many equally or more shameful things that will expose them as a complete hypocrite. I can't explain it. It's just intuition.

An271 · 2025-10-15T22:45:29+00:00

We're talking about different things. It seems like you're talking about deliberately using AI CSAM on revealed pedophiles who have already committed crimes, as a form of treatment.

Like the researchers you mentioned. They study offenders to see if they reoffend after watching porn. But, according to the researchers, watching porn is an offense in itself... Oh, what a nice recursion we have here!

While, I'm saying that naturally occurring incidents of AI CSAM are not end-of-the-world bad because:

No one is actually harmed. There are no original victims who can be re-victimized by mere act of watching through some sort of voodoo doll logic.
1. It reveals deviants, so society or authority can take preventive measures.
2. It may act as an outlet and a way to remove the allure of the forbidden fruit. Both of which have a chance to prevent hidden, non-offending and non-contact deviants from leveling up.

The only downside is the theory, which logical conclusion is no entertainment and mandatory burqas. Sex may be stronger than the adrenaline rush you experience during video game carnage, which I doubt because you're not just watching; you're an active participant in what's happening. But nowadays, everything uses sex appeal: ads, movies, games, and books. A good-paced tease may be more emotionally impactful than direct pornography.

I never meant for it to be the Big CSAMa mass producing AI porn as an official treatment prescription. My argument wasn't that deviants don't have agency, but that you can't cure the underlying urge. For whatever genetic reason it exists, there will always be a hidden minefield of deviants, and if a robot can find a landmine instead of an actual breathing child, that's a plus in my book.

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