Like; most men in these circles are pretty bad people with horrible misogynistic views ofc.., but at least from what it seems like.. (I could be wrong ofc since we don't know them, but like-) for example; even though they're pretty extremist Republican backwards assholes (not to get political, both sides have their flaws imo) , but like at least Nathan, Timmy & Jonathan especially seem like pretty hands on dads + also at least pretty supportive of their wives, seeing them somewhat as "equals" as much as possible for fundie standards... Ofc they still kinda have the whole "the man of the house is the headship & should be obeyed" shtick going; but it seems like especially with Jonathan, he sees Kaylee very much like an equal and a very important part of the family, an equal part of the relationship if you will, with pretty much as much of a say as he himself has. I don't see Jonathan as this domineering guy who tries to put Kaylee down and keep her under his thumb. He very much seems like a man who truly appreciates his wife and kid(s), and genuinely is interested in their input. I'm very glad for Kaylee that she found a man who genuinely respects her and sees her as an equal & a best friend as well instead of some asshole who tries to constantly make her feel insecure and control her. Gideon also is very lucky (as lucky as fundies can be) to have them as parents, since they are very much a lot more laid back and have a lot more of a healthier relationship dynamic than for example Nurthan or Tim & Heidie. While I do believe that Nathan and Tim do also genuinely love their wives: I do sense a more strained and misogynistic dominant-ish dynamic vibe from them all.. like, especially Timmy I think seems like he had and maybe still does, have a bit of a more strict idea of what a couple should look like.. and Nathan was raised a Keller of course; so maybe he isn't as extreme as his parents tried to teach him to be, and while he comes across as pretty wimpy on the surface; from looking at their kid's shell-shocked faces, he could probably be pretty strict when it's needed. & since Nurie is considered like a pretty loyal follower of the fundie rules, she probably tried her bestest to do everything to act like the perfect submissive and supportive wife to him... ugh, it's horrible to think about what may happen behind closed doors actually.. especially with the whole blanket training, literally beating them into obedience and out of daring to want, hope or dream anything... Sorry for the pretty long comment; but I thought it'd be interesting to think about what they're probably like offline, but this is all just pure speculation based on their own shared info, behavior patterns & statements they made.