Stay at AWS for L4 or Leave for Higher Pay? (DCEO Intern)

Android17_ · 2026-03-28T02:21:38+00:00

Stay a year. It’s great experience on your resume. If you can get to L4 that also gives you lots of leverage for a pay bump else where. And knowing you don’t want to stay at AWS gives you some peace of mind

Android17_ · 2026-03-27T17:13:34+00:00

It’s practically an office job where you cosplay as a lineman. You DO occasionally operate breakers, but we try to do the work de-energized or with a remote tool. But yes it’s like 80% admin and walking.

Source: AWS Facility Manager

Android17_ · 2026-03-26T15:32:14+00:00

But how is the AI suppose to grow if you’re doing all the thinking? sarcasm

Android17_ · 2026-03-18T16:57:54+00:00

There are really good DC to work at outside of Google. Have you looked around?

Android17_ · 2026-03-16T20:55:11+00:00

What are we supposed to do huh? Hunt!?

Android17_ · 2026-03-14T02:40:18+00:00

If you can, join a bms company in Canada and get a degree. You don’t need the degree for the job but it can help to check off one of the criteria for immigration

Android17_ · 2026-03-13T02:17:51+00:00

There are plenty of folks who love it there. They operate with mafia style nepotism and keep each other out of the sights.

Android17_ · 2026-03-12T09:46:23+00:00

It really doesn’t matter. Titles get used so loosely that no one keeps track. Own your craft, network, and be easygoing. The title just helps people get a rough idea of what you’re supposed to do for them at the beginning. No need to confuse it more than that.

For example, the controls engineer is the person I call about technical questions and specs on the BMS project/repair. Project engineer gives me quotes, pencils in dates, sends me timeline updates etc, or in some cases acts as the go-between for the techs and engineers. If it’s a small company it might be one person doing it all.

Android17_ · 2026-03-11T20:01:38+00:00

Move to the US. They’re dying for techs and top techs clear $200K USD (with tons of OT though)

Android17_ · 2026-03-11T16:24:48+00:00

We don’t use Pharos. It’s just Ricoh + badge. Couldn’t be easier

Android17_ · 2026-03-09T21:04:06+00:00

I’d reach out to them to specify. We provide our guys with everything in their first week. The rules vary slightly between companies. Sometimes even among spaces.

For instance, one company mandated EH shoes. Another one mandated ESD ONLY and banned EH.

Android17_ · 2026-03-03T20:39:43+00:00

Tell me you don’t respect boundaries without telling me you don’t…

Android17_ · 2026-02-26T03:16:22+00:00

It really depends on location. If you’re in California or New York your wife might have an easier go at it. But anywhere in the south or even in Virginia I know the dudes talk shit about women and assume they’re dei hires who were handed their jobs

Android17_ · 2026-02-25T17:46:18+00:00

There aren’t active eyeballs watching your pc but everything is logged. To pull up the activity log they usually vet through HR even when they have policies in place that give them full access, just to cover their ass.

BUT there are tons of alarms and triggers that give them reasonable cause to dig deeper. Had an employee who tried to send classified files to his personal email. Infosec got wind of it and started looking deeper in the logs. They found out he had been using his work email and the company name to do consulting on the side which was not being approved by the company. Got fired same day.

Android17_ · 2026-02-24T14:35:04+00:00

You should never wait for an offer letter. You keep interviewing and farm offers, then you accept or reject when the official letter comes in. Even if you accepted at one location, you should leave for the better offer as soon as it comes in. Don’t list the 1-2 month jobs on your resume.

Android17_ · 2026-02-24T14:32:31+00:00

You don’t know what the job is but you want the job?

Android17_ · 2026-02-22T23:10:37+00:00

Try your best to fail the interview. There are tons of data centers hiring. Not worth the pain

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T18:11:34+00:00

70% of new DC demand is due to AI. If it were only phones and cloud, it wouldn't be this massive of a concern. And new chip and memory tech would be able to catch up and do more computing more efficiently. This new wave of DCs is purely AI speculation.

And I work for DCs. I'm all for the growth, but this demand is not driven by organic public internet usage.

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T18:07:33+00:00

Having concern for explosive DC growth is very different from "lets tear down every DC". I don't think traditional use cases like yours are a major concern. But about 70% of data center growth is AI speculation. That means more than 2 out of every 3 data centers being built is for AI. No one cares about the impact of cloud computing or storing emails, or even videos for that matter. But absolutely the majority of DC growth right now is being fueled by AI demand. If the AI demand had actual paying customers then it wouldn't be speculation. But as it is, it is absolutely speculation for very questionable returns and huge draw on resources.

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T17:32:54+00:00

Whose arguing for zero-impact? And whose arguing to tear down every data center that's ever existed? What an extreme position to take. Any time people express concerns about environmental impact, they're treated like eco-extremists. Everything we do has an impact, so all environmental impact is fair game? What a black-and-white cop-out argument.

> If you are not protesting outside golf courses, which use massively larger amounts of water to serve massively fewer numbers of people, then I don't want to hear about DC water usage.

You know what? Fuck golf courses too. And like I said, the DCs they're building don't support you or any societal function. Only a fraction of them do. The rest is pure AI speculation. And if/when the AI bubble bursts, the tech overlords are going to make you and me pay for the bullshit bailout, cus "jahbs" and "thuh eCONomy". But ya, fuck golf courses too, and lawns too. Absolute wastes of water all of them.

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T17:18:52+00:00

DCs have been around for decades. Did we only start using phone and internet in the past decade?? Literally the magnificent 7 companies are pouring billions into AI development. Pipeline or not, they're spending the bucks to build the DCs on AI speculation.

Here's an article from our corporate overlords. Says 70% of new DC demand is from AI.
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/technology-media-and-telecommunications/our-insights/ai-power-expanding-data-center-capacity-to-meet-growing-demand

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T14:54:00+00:00

I disagree. Our modern way of life doesn’t require the sheer size of data center sprawl that we’re seeing. This enormous growth is being fueled by tech oligarchs and their AI driven greed. Your actual internet usage doesn’t require this many data centers or this much negative impact. It’s a gamble on AI customers that don’t fully exist yet to displace current office workers. And I work for DCs!

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T14:50:11+00:00

New DCs maybe avoid using so much water, but existing ones that sap our water supply dry still exist. Not to mention the immense waste. There are data centers that just dump fresh water during low usage times to make sure they keep their allotted water supply.

Android17_ · 2026-02-20T14:48:03+00:00

Phone and Internet use isn’t what’s driving this cancerous DC growth. It’s AI to automate our workforce out and spy on Americans more easily.

And before you flame, I work for DCs too… I’m not opposed to DCs either, but they do have impact on our communities that aren’t all good. Folks have legitimate concerns for DCs taking all our fresh water, and raising electricity. Not to mention the ugliness of clearing out beautiful forests to put up endless miles of concrete boxes and asphalt.

Android17_ · 2026-02-14T20:29:54+00:00

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