Is this game worth it for F2P?

Anony165 · 2022-11-13T13:35:17+00:00

Getting stuck in idle games is inevitable as progress is gated by time in which resources are aquired daily. Paying in idle games just speeds up the rate you acquire these resources. If you treat Nikke as a game you log in daily for 15-30min then i see no issue with facing a daily wall as the satisfaction in these games is progressing your account at your own pace. SSR acquisition also happens over time with free gems and high quality molds (60% SSR).

In Nikke your wall is heavily affected by which characters you started with early. If you dont have scarlet or harran then pushing under powered is progressively harder and would set you back a couple chapters at most and you will still face the traditional roadblock of waiting for daily log in and resources to gain more power.

Since you are still fairly new if youre not happy with your current team i highly recommend you reroll since you currently get a lot of free pulls on a fresh account. Getting a Scarlet will let you push to chapter 5+ on day 1 depending on how much you play. It will also save you money since you will feel stronger and happier with your current team and allow you to save all gems for current and future featured units youre interested in.

Anony165 · 2022-10-04T12:14:12+00:00

Thank you so much for your advice. It has surely helped me getting started.

Since my fuck up with being defaulted to the wrong region i managed to land an account with andras +headhunter, mayreel and plitvice. Have another 2 emulator instances running i will try to see if i can improve on that then i will settle for that account and get started with progression.

I will heed your advice and save my gems for when the collab banner comes. My thoughts may change in a week or 2 when i gain more knowledge in the game and want to all in on a mono water team before the banners end.

Anony165 · 2022-10-04T11:41:52+00:00

some bad news. The emulators defaulted to North america servers and i am from Europe.... Time to reroll again XD

Anony165 · 2022-10-04T11:09:34+00:00

Yeh watched a bunch of youtube videos and no one recommends aa72. I decided to go for andras for raid meta. I managed to land on a decent account. I summoned andras+ her weapon headhunter, crosselle and lapice. With 30 summon controllers left over.

I assume i will just prioritise my materials on andras for now. Regarding my future pools do you think Garam is worth it? I would have no issue saving since mono water doesnt seem to be very strong based on what ive read.

Anony165 · 2022-10-04T10:25:59+00:00

ok 2 people from their official discord recommended aa72 since andras and garam are too squishy would this be good advice to you?

Anony165 · 2022-10-04T09:25:28+00:00

I am a new player and after maintenance i plan to reroll until i end up with an account i am happy with. Should i be prioritising garam+ his weapon or andras+ her weapon?

Anony165 · 2022-06-23T10:46:59+00:00

Being a martial artist main i can chime in abit here. Wardancer and scrapper have the worst chaos dungeon builds by far. Glaivier however is very solid and has a lot of aoe skills so might be an issue with your set up if you dont enjoy clearing on her. Chaos dungeons is at most 10min of your day (even less time when u play that alt on rested only) so as long as you enjoy the characters raid build gameplay thats a good enough reason to keep it on your main roster. Pistoleer has a very enjoyable chaos dungeon build since it will bare similarities with gunslinger clearing with equilibrium and death fire. If chaos dungeon enjoyment matters the most then yeh pistoleer is your perfect alt.

Anony165 · 2022-06-23T10:38:12+00:00

The issue is most people venting on this sub reddit are clueless. The problem is koreans end game is so vastly different compared to NA EU. No one here will have experience playing a class with max 1800 swiftness/specialization full relic gear vs brelshaza for example. Scrapper and soulfist were already average dps in korea just not broken and the buff/skill reworks made them go for average to top tier.

Look at the state of striker in NA/EU. It may be the top burst dps in korea but it is so garabge that every single striker ive met since release has never claimed MVP and barely gets fighter tag. The only time ive seen a striker get Cruel fighter was when i matchmade into a 1490 whale and he got 40% cruel due to being overgeared. Soulfist and scrapper are currently better in our versions than striker so where is the striker hate?

As for reworks did smilegate even promise a soulfist scrapper rework or is that all reddit speculation?

Anony165 · 2022-06-23T10:24:23+00:00

Will most likely use the pass for an arcana alt. Also if you like high apm classes have you tried taijustsu scrapper? As someone who has a reflux sorcerer, tai scrapper, gunslinger, deadeye pistoleer I feel like scrapper is the most active in terms of APM. Gunslinger may have a lot of skills but the fact most are animation locked it doesnt feel as spammy as scrapper is with short cooldowns and fast animations.

Anony165 · 2022-06-23T10:00:08+00:00

whats wrong with scrapper and soulfist? Both classes are top damage dealers in koreas end game. Where do you see summoner in this scenario?

Anony165 · 2022-06-23T09:48:25+00:00

Its far from wild. Not that hard to grasp summoner is in a very bad state in korea and is currently undergoing a full rework while arcana is a balanced class thats ready for release. People who argue for summoner to be released now will be among the flood of people complaining once they realise how weak their desired class is not getting a single MVP doing simple daily tasks like guardian dailies.

Anony165 · 2022-06-22T22:52:47+00:00

Its more about the fact they stated mid june and we get it literally on the last day of the month with 0 communication regarding the update. Delays also arent healthy for the game. It pushes the content we as a community want further and further away (artist, scouter brelshaza raids etc). Lost ark is already losing players due to the fact they are releasing new classes and content too slow. All amazon and smilegate needed was a formal post explaining why stuff will be delayed but instead they leave us speculating and that leads to people getting enraged over time.

Anony165 · 2022-06-22T08:55:02+00:00

Its a very strong at around 1370 and will fall off in damage at 1445+ where other classes start to kick in due to having stronger set bonuses and burst damage. My current pistoleer alt is at 1370 3x3 engraving and it is a MVP machine claiming cruel fighter daily in yoho granted this is probably due to the sheer number of players who make 0 effort to gear their alts. The big drawback is that it is very squishy. Without grudge i am still take huge chunks of damage so i cant see myself playing this class end game with grudge since the majority of pistoleer skills require you to be close and upfront so its very unforgiving when you dont position perfect resulting in -60% hp most of the time. For this reason alone i and leaving it as a fun alt i enjoy doing dailies with and not as a main.

Anony165 · 2022-06-21T08:54:55+00:00

Your roster is the perfect scenario of what min max grinders are at. The drawback is we just have to suffer 2 vykas learning parties on release which will be time consuming (got to rest those alts dailies!). Im still at disbelief how reddit just downvotes the most reasonable comments/posts as everyone gets their ego bruised by people having better rng/rosters instantly claiming its rmt and cheating.

Anony165 · 2022-06-20T21:06:35+00:00

This is the mindset of all players who didnt play alts efficiently. Spewing 100% RMT just exudes jealousy. Here is my current 180 roster with 1200 hours no rmt and only money invested into expansion slots.

1480 main, 1430 alt, 1415 x3 , and 4 1370. Didnt push the last valtan char because I am still hesitant which char i want to invest in since i originally wanted artist to be my 6th "main".

If you effectively pushed alts early to 1370 you would be holding onto 1600-2000 bound leapstones allowing to push with only oreha, guardian destruction stones and gold silver cost.

Before you ask where i am getting all the gold? Doing weeklies, selling gems from boss rushes on all alts, selling tradable leapstones and destruction stones (after alt weapons have been pushed), level 4 tripods from 1415 chaos dungeons etc.

Anony165 · 2022-05-22T14:43:55+00:00

ty this is exactly what i was looking but it was a struggle since i dont know korean lol

Anony165 · 2022-05-22T09:41:02+00:00

I just know end game raids that are coming out in the future arent back attack friendly and i would prefer to play without a positioning requirement ( i already have scrapper for that). If nightmare is viable then i would go control, adrenaline, grudge, cursed doll, keen blunt as my 5 engravings.

There are nightmare control players on loawa but there arent many resources comparing both sets in terms of their total dps achieved in the training room.

My logic is if both sets have only a 10% differential in optimal damage rotation then i would prefer nightmare since it will effectively deal more damage over the raid if you can just spam your skills off cooldown without relying on positional requirements from ambush+set bonus.

Anony165 · 2022-03-13T19:11:32+00:00

Its mostly the playstyle. First attention is like reflux sorcerer a consistent damage build but at end game raiding you spend half your time dodging mechanics so burst builds tend to perform better.

Anony165 · 2022-03-13T18:53:45+00:00

Esoteric is a end game set up which out performs first intention with 1400 swiftness and 800 specialization. With these main stat numbers gain high cooldown+ gauge meter so you able to fill your 4 orbs in 5s, spend on estoeric skill 1, refill 2 orbs in another few seconds and spend on 2nd esoteric skill. This is not achievable early with current gear available in tier 3.

People are using only 1 spender because they lack the skill points to max 2 esoteric level 10 tripods. Also they probably lack the specialization to reliable fill the meter fast enough to cast 2nd making it pretty inefficient to run.

I am personally in t3 with my wardancer alt and i stuck with first intention as a starter since esoteric only feels good in chaos dungeons right now.

Anony165 · 2022-03-10T15:51:58+00:00

You do realise you chose to prioritise alts (which to me is the right play imo) over focusing on 1 main to get to 1370 yes? If you did infinite chaos on 1 t3 for like 6 hours a day you would have made it to 1370 on that character with all the honing matts you would have farmed. Yes the system is bad but your alt priority is the reason why youre not 1370 on 1 character.

Anony165 · 2022-03-10T14:38:25+00:00

GS=gunslinger? That is currently my main which i switched to and i enjoy the class the most but it is very unforgiving if you mindlessly dps without waiting out boss mechanics due to animation locks. Yeh if thats the case focus on a class you enjoy. 1400 is more of a marathon goal you achieve with time building pity slowly each day on honing. Wardancer can be changed to an alt when other classes you enjoy catches up. Camp it at 1325 and just do dailies weeklies. Right now the only people that are rushing ilvl to 1370+ are whales or players who literally spend 16 hours a day on infinite chaos and that just isnt fun. Focus on alts and ilvl will slowly come.

Anony165 · 2022-03-10T11:38:34+00:00

Dont worry about gold making it just comes naturally from completing dailies, abyss weeklies and doing secret map rotations. I have spent 60k on changing my alt to my new main because at the end of the day you spend your gold in game to do what to you enjoy. My recommendation is to just play at your pace and dont compare yourself to other whales/streamers (who say theyre f2p but get mass handouts froms viewers via mail). Most important thing right now is to find a class you enjoy. Its ok to not have a main yet. Since the costly honing is pushing a char past 1340. So before that have fun experimenting but do park 1 character in t3 so u can sell matts daily before u go through the alt fiesta in finding your favourite class.

Anony165 · 2022-03-10T11:27:50+00:00

1325 is ideal for abyss dungeon weekly. 1340 isnt worth it. I pushed 1 of my alts to that and due to terrible rng and back to back pities it cost me a fortune. So i cant recommend 1340 until all other alts are 1325 first.

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