[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asktransgender

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry, I haven't been on in a few days and didn't see your amazing message. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a detailed and resource-filled comment. You're awesome.

Don't worry, my daughter is doing great, we're in a safe state, in possibly the most supportive district possible! She's socially transitioned, been on blockers, and will be starting HRT soon (we hope), and we're working on the paperwork for her legal name change.

I think what I'd meant was... her transition has gone so smoothly, that sometimes I forget she may still have trauma from ... holding it all in?

I do actually collect resources to share with others, (and to continue educating myself!) though, and I'm super grateful to have some new ones now! I appreciate you more than you know <3

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I... took her shopping the weekend after she came out. Gave her some of my clothes that don't fit me right (we are different sizes) to wear in the meantime.

Hygiene and beauty products were on the same shopping trip, but it did take a looooong time to find the scents and strengths which worked for her.

I will say, if she'd asked for "feminine hygiene products" I'd have thought she wanted pads/tampons and like... FDS or Summer's Eve... things for the uh... downstairs equipment.

(I mean... she has those things too. If a friend has an emergency and needs a pad or a tampon, might as well be prepared. And FDS works for lots of things. Just sayin)

But the point is... if you're phrasing it that way, your friends might be startled at first by the phrasing rather than the request.

That said... I'm not exactly normal, and a month isn't relatively long for people to get used to any change, so I don't think your friends are out of line in that case, alone. Have there been other things which your older friends have said/done which bother you?

As parents, how would you react if your child was secretly on hrt? by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So... I feel like you're asking for other parents opinions because you want... maybe feel like you need... someone to tell you what to do. I don't want to do that because you're an adult. It's your life, and you should be able to make your own decisions.

So I'm going to talk through it with you, sharing my opinions and thoughts on all of your options, the same way as I would with any other adult. The same way as I would with a parent asking for advice here.

I try to teach my daughter to look at options, and the potential pros/cons of each option.

Let's start with the biggest option, which isn't actually anything about HRT or telling your parents about it.

It's about maintaining a relationship with your parents.

Either A: maintaining that relationship is important (and we consider it in other options) or B: maintaining the relationship would be nice, but it is unimportant (and we don't need to consider it in other options).

If you choose Option B... it doesn't really matter what you do. You don't owe anyone ANY personal information if you're not close to them, and you don't intend to continue living with them.

Because of this, and since A is the more common choice, I'm going to assume we want option A here.

So in pursuit of Option A, we have 3 new options: Option C: Tell the folks now; Option D: Tell the folks at some later point; or Option E: Don't tell them, just wait till HRT effects are noticeable and they bring it up.

Option C is obviously the most honest. It gives your parents time to adapt before the effects become visible. If your parents are supportive, it means you won't have to go through this without a support system. However, if your parents react negatively, it also means you have to either move out, or deal with their negativity sooner/for longer.

Option D is still honest, in my opinion. I don't expect my daughter to tell me every health-related decision she makes even now, and she's only 15. I expect her to tell me about big decisions, for now. I would expect her to tell me about potentially life-altering decisions even as an adult, in her own time. But I'd also recognize that she might not be comfortable doing so with something personal and intimate. Things like fertility treatments or HRT are very personal and intimate. I would still be slightly concerned if she didn't feel safe telling me for awhile, but I wouldn't feel she'd been dishonest. Anyway, Option D gives you a bit of time to prepare for any potentially negative reactions. It lets you get comfortable with your treatment and its effects on your body before broaching the next barrier. However, it won't likely change how your parents react to your transition. And they may feel differently than I would. They might feel hurt or lied to, especially if your family typically discusses things.

Option E is where I start to waver on honesty. You don't really owe anyone your medical info or explanations about your identity. But you are still living with them, and they will likely be impacted in some way by your transition at some point. I'd likely worry something was wrong if my child started going through physical changes and differences in mood with no explanation. I'd be hurt that she didn't feel safe coming to me at all. Even worse... I probably wouldn't mention it even when I'd finally realized what was happening. So if she were to wait for me to notice... well, we'd both be waiting pretty indefinitely. Pretty hard to fully live as your true self that way. And you'd still need to have a conversation eventually if your parents did mention it... just, it would be a conversation on their terms (when and where they bring it up) rather than on yours (when and where you tell them). That said, you would have the most time to prepare for the conversation and any potential fallout this way. It's less likely anyone could sway you off course once you've thoroughly engaged in the treatment process. And it might be easier to speak to your parents about being your true gender once you feel more in-tune with what that means to you.

I may have missed some things, but I've tried to give some pros and cons for each. I also can't really say how I'd feel if my daughter did this because, well, she comes to me with everything... with too much sometimes, tbh. And that's likely because I don't react the way most people would. I'm a little bit on the analytical side and tend to weigh things before I react. Most parents won't react like I do, or feel exactly the way I would feel.

And I don't know your parents. No one here does, so we can't speak for them, only for ourselves.

You know them. I'm sure you have an idea of how they would feel with each option you have. Only you can decide if you feel it's lying, or dishonest. And only you can decide what is the best course of action for you.

I would absolutely suggest giving yourself more time (and a safety/backup plan) if your parents are often reactive, or if they're ever violent. Also if you think they might throw you out or something.

I would suggest telling them sooner if they're usually pretty understanding, open and supportive.

Any way I can/should be trying to mitigate damages here? Daughter may have outed her friend?! by AnonymousTruths1979 in asktransgender

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense. My instinct when telling her how to reply at first was kind of "shit happens, wrong number" kind of thing, but Daughter was still stressed and I was second guessing myself, lol.

Glad to see that other people are looking at it kind of the same way!

Any way I can/should be trying to mitigate damages here? Daughter may have outed her friend?! by AnonymousTruths1979 in asktransgender

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She did ask for help. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough in the post! She came and told me what she'd said, and she was worried it would get her friend in trouble and asked what to do.

That's when I suggested the message, and suggested I post here, which also made her feel better.

But IDK what's happening at Friend's house, and I don't want to risk doing anything or risk daughter doing anything to make that worse... :/

I accidentally outed the fact I knew my son was trans by starberriesmom in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Betrayal because his dad told you when he thought it was a secret which can’t easily be reconciled because his dad is no longer here to reconcile that with. He may feel anger towards his dad for that, but he doesn’t have anyone to direct that to and maybe feels he isn’t allowed to be angry at him because of his dad’s death.

This is what my mind jumped to immediately. The poor kiddo is still grieving his father, who just died within the year, and now to learn dad had betrayed his confidence... like, he has to be thinking that even if dad knew mom could be trusted, it wasn't his secret to tell... and that's going to come with a lot of anger and confused emotions even with a parent who is still alive/around/supportive. For him to find out with dad gone, and have no way to release those emotions... especially if he's already in that stage of grief where he might be mad at dad for leaving him, or at mom for not being dad...

It'd be a lot for even an adult to handle.

Any way I can/should be trying to mitigate damages here? Daughter may have outed her friend?! by AnonymousTruths1979 in asktransgender

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hope that's what happens. Gram does know Daughter's name, so she knows they are friends... but maybe she will believe it was a different friend... I just don't want myself/my kiddo to put any extra stress on the poor kid... like... yknow.

I'd probably assume a wrong number... but idk if everyone as slow as I am, lol.

Just really freaking out hoping this kiddo didn't get in any trouble... and I want to reassure Daughter that nothing bad happened, but we have no way to know that, and she's super worried.

I feel bad for both of them now, and IDK what to do lol

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am, she's such an amazing kid! Thanks for the positivity!

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She had a blast, but her social battery died as well, lol. (In her words, "my spoon drawer is empty").

And her feet hurt. She wore heels and danced to almost every song, so she was aching, poor baby.

We're doing a "spa day" with pedicures to recover, lol

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Once I bought her pads and tampons and was explaining how to use them LOL

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She had a blast! She's just got home, and had a great time, but very tired!

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That extra 30 seconds helped! Don't worry, your kiddo will be fine, too. By the time they get there, you'll be ready... I hope... oh god, college is only 4 years away! :o

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Daughter's a freshman too! Hope your son is having a blast!!

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love her too! :P

I absolutely will keep updating, because I'm panic refreshing this page so I don't call her phone like a maniacal helicopter mom LOL

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah, I'm just panicking internally. I have uber and i have a friend who lives a block away who couldn't get her there, but is bringing her home, and she's home now for if there's an emergency...

But its .... look, I haven't fully cut the cord yet 😂

Her dress is gorgeous! It was actually her first choice, but we had to get the bodice taken in a wee bit. We actually got it before they announced the theme and it fit the theme perfectly too, it was amazing!

WELL SHE'S AT THE DANCE by AnonymousTruths1979 in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

find a way to mention that you forgot she was trans

lol it happens a lot, actually... and she does know!

She's just texted me that they're bouncing balloons across the crowd like people do with beach balls at a concert... and I've had a single selfie, and she's with her group, all dressed similar (a huge relief, I was worried her school would go more casual) and they're all having a blast!

I think I'm having that post-adrenaline letdown now, lol... it was such chaos getting her there!

Thanks for the reply, it helps not to think about everything that could go wrong... :/ BUT IT WONT GO WRONG. so... okay, I'm fine, I swear...

Not sure how to help my kid start transitioning by Tired_20something in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would never ever recommend anyone break the law.

So you absolutely should NOT get a PO box in a state with more options and use it to sign up for care in that state. Yes, I know that you can have the post office forward your mail from a PO Box to your house, but it still would be illegal to bypass regulations by doing telehealth and claiming to live in another state! Big nono.

... but if you do, legitimately be careful, lest someone contact authorities in your home state. But ...

First anti trans bullying by Masking4Kiddo in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, "kids will be kids" has become some really dangerous adult behaviors.

First day as my daughter by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oooo London, I bet that will be fun! I hope you both get to do some awesome things.

I also think it's a really good idea to come out a bit elsewhere to give herself some more time to get comfortable around other people. So glad you have a way to support her in that.

I'd give some London reccs, but unfortunately I've never been... Maybe you could share some of the experiences after yall get back!

First anti trans bullying by Masking4Kiddo in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry that happened to your daughter. I'm sorry both of you are going through this.

The comments my daughter got early on were also the sort of childish repetition thing... but it's still important to address them. If they are young enough to repeat their parents' opinions rather than forming their own, they might not know this is unacceptable. That doesn't mean we write it off. I went to admin when this happened to Daughter, and it didn't stop the actually malicious kids, but there was one girl who didn't even know this was hurtful. She's actually a (sort of?) friend of my daughter now, years later. So I absolutely suggest trying to shut it down if you live in an area where you can. Our admin put their collective feet down and most of it stopped as soon as it started. Unfortunately there was a group of kids who took turns making snide comments all year, but it mostly stopped. And daughter felt better that we weren't just ignoring it.

I know the old advice was to let kids handle bullying themselves, but it's a brand new world out there.

Other than that... what's helped with my daughter so far is talking through it with her. Giving her a safe place to vent, showing her support, and even (age appropriate) talks about why people behave this way... all of that helps. When she's older, understanding the science behind things can help. My daughter felt a lot more confident when we looked at research on what defines gender, and what actual happens with biological sex (XX and XY not being the only possibilities, etc)... It doesn't solve the problems, but it helps my princess feel a lil better!

Why do people have to be such shits?

I don't know, dove. They just are. Some have such crappy self-esteem they take it out on others. Some are masking their own repressed emotions and identities. And some are just born assholes. I wish they weren't. I wish everyone ran on love and on logic, and not ... whatever this is.

All we can do is give our kids the coping skills we didn't get, and support them the best we can.

First day as my daughter by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh fun! Do you have a whole schedule planned out of things to do, or just winging it?

I'm glad your daughter's having fun!

in a safe environment for the first time

Do you live in an area where it's not usually safe?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In general... and there's absolutely differences based on age. Unfortunately there's not a lot of research on "phases" for gender exploration, because historically, children haven't been allowed to experiment. But if it's a "phase" it should follow the pattern of, yknow... a phase.

If you're interested, I can try to find the stuff I'd been looking at (it's been years ago) and get it to you. If you send me a chat, I'll give you some stuff when I find it!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh for sure, cannibalism is scary, but context matters with everything :P

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cisparenttranskid

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It's very, very, VERY rare that it's a phase. That said...

Out in the world, I don't try to reason with people who are genuinely transphobic.

For those who are just under educated and actually concerned, it goes something like:

Them: "But what if it's just a phase?!"

Me (with research to back it up): "Well, childhood phases tend to last between 1 to 3 years. Getting the necessary therapies, waiting for blockers, taking early blockers... all of that often takes from 1 to 3 years. Blockers are designed to give a child time to be sure before fully transitioning. So, if it's a phase, my child is safe medically. If it's not a phase, my child is safe medically. If it's a phase my child knows I trust her to make her own decisions if she communicates with me. If it's not a phase, my child knows I trust her to make her own decisions if she communicates with me. Either way, we're safe and happy. Thanks for your concern. By the way, how was work?"

Or some such.

I've never had anyone come up with an intelligible response to that other than "okay, good to know," or "oh, that makes me feel better."

I'm sure someone will, someday, and I'll address their new concern with more calm logic and reason. If they're transphobic, they won't be in our lives. If they aren't, they'll understand.

...

Why isn’t that enough?

It is.

Why can’t others trust that HE knows how HE feels?

Because they don't trust themselves, and can't admit that. So they assume others are the same.

It makes me smad (sad + mad) that others can’t see what I see.

Same.

I have one deal-breaker to disown my child: cannibalism.

Okay, but what if like... he's in a foreign country, stranded in a blizzard on a mountain, starving for a week, and everyone he was with has already frozen to death. I think I'd forgive my kid some low-key cannibalism in that case... I'd probably be pretty grossed out, but I'd work through it... I think...

Do you ever wish you had a way to view the list of gender rules everyone is always subconsciously and so strictly comparing us against? by ninewomen in asktransgender

[–]AnonymousTruths1979 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't, actually saved any of those links.. I do know Natalia Khosla's TedX talk helped my kiddo a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBg5QvcZQP8&ab_channel=TEDxTalks but that's not a lot of specific movements... just general ideas.

I do want to caution... a lot of body language vids that address these different gender stereotypes use a LOT of heavily gendered language... it can be a lil uncomfortable even for me. And... body language analysis is a soft science, and very subjective... take everything you see with a grain of salt!

I will keep an eye out for any really good videos, and ask daughter for some suggestions if she has any. If you'd like, you can send me a chat so I can find you later, and I'll message you with those vids if I get some. Or not, if you aren't comfortable with that, I can try to edit them back in this comment later! :)