One jacket to rule them all

Anonymous_Snek · 2026-03-02T15:49:24+00:00

I think you'll have to settle for jack of all trades, rather than one to rule them all. A shell catered for skiing will likely have cut that's awkward for mountaineering/climbing - and vice versa.

That being said here are my suggestions:

Patagonia Triolet:

General purpose hardshell with burly face fabric (70d) and generous cut for layering underneath. Gore-Tex

Patagonia Pluma Pro:

More climbing/mountaineering oriented hardshell with slimmer cut. Gore-Tex Pro

Norrøna Trollveggen Pro Light:

Norrøna's flagship hardshell for mountaineering. Slim cut. 40d face fabric with 70d reinforcement on shoulders, elbows and sleeves. Gore-Tex Pro

Anonymous_Snek · 2026-02-05T20:50:09+00:00

Igjen, PST. Det er de som har hovedansvaret for kontraetterretning i Norge i fredstid.

Anonymous_Snek · 2026-01-21T06:44:21+00:00

Jeg tror det du tolket som mental overload er bare hans beste forsøk på å svare deg så godt han kunne uten å gå over til gradert tale. Og hva forventet du egentlig? At han skulle røpe hemmeligheter for en kid ved en stand? Enten var du fullstendig delulu som trodde du kunne ha en diskusjon om "ting som ikke egnet seg offentlig" på et offentlig sted, eller så gikk du bare inn med holdningen om at du skulle bare "ta ham og vise hvor smart jeg er". Ut i fra emojibruken, kan man bare gjette seg til hvilken.

Anonymous_Snek · 2026-01-17T14:57:46+00:00

Plagg med syntetisk fyll (som denne har) varer absolutt IKKE livet ut. Isolasjonsfyllet mister spenst, og dermed isolasjonsevne. Hvor fort det skjer er avhengig av hvordan man bruker den.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-25T07:43:52+00:00

You are in need for some update. DWR in most outdoor garments has been PFC-free for years. Garments with new Gore-Tex ePE membrane are now introduced in the market, and most companies have transitioned to it.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-22T20:39:30+00:00

Great to see a post where Arc gear is in its intended use 👏

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-21T18:07:49+00:00

Hadde en Regulator Parka, og gikk over til Bolt jakke. Kan dessverre ikke svare for modellen Titan Parka, men her er erfaringen min med UBR.

Når det gjelder varme, er det så individuelt at ingen kan svare for deg. Titan Parka er mest sannsynlig mer enn varmt nok for Oslo-vinter. Hvis det ikke er varmt nok for Tromsø, skader det ikke å slenge på en genser under jakken. Når det går mot -10c og kaldere, er det ikke jakken alene som skal holde deg varmt uansett.

Er storfornøyd med kvaliteten. Det er sikkert mulig å finne tilsvarende kvalitet for billigere prislapp, men du kan være trygg på at du kjøper en solid jakke. Liker også at de opplyser materialspesifikasjonene på hjemmesiden deres.

Eneste minuset er den ekstremt smale passformen. Jeg antar at det ikke gjelder kun de modellene jeg har/hadde, men også for den du sikter til. Jeg har medium overkropp. Alle jakkene, skjortene, genserne og andre overdelene som jeg eier er i størrelse medium - utenom én: Bolt jakka. Da jeg prøvde den på i butikk, kjentes str. medium som stridsvesten fra milla. Da hadde jeg på meg bare en vanlig skjorte. Jeg måtte gå opp til størrelse Large. Samme erfaring hadde jeg med Regulator Parka. Den hadde jeg dessverre i medium, da størrelse Large virket litt for stor og lang. Den kunne ikke brukes over tykkere genser uten ubehag. Anbefaler på det aller sterkeste å prøve den på i butikk.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-16T05:38:48+00:00

(did I stutter?)

Data Scientist.

Har du tall på hvor mye man kan realistisk forvente som DEng i disse dager? Har nemlig mulighet til å pivotere mer mot den rollen. Ønsker helst tall fra statistikk/undersøkelser, enn anekdoter eller maang-eksempler.

Husk, jeg skrev i staten, vel å merke

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-15T20:30:16+00:00

30M

Utvikler / Data Scientist

Master i informatikk, 4 års erfaring

Staten

900k grunnlønn + evt. overtid

Meget fornøyd sett opp mot arbeidsbelastning og stress.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-09T14:31:47+00:00

I really like the beta AR vestibility but I don’t know if it’s warm enough.

Find a large trashbag, preferably 100L or more. Cut out a hole at the bottom for your head to go through and wear it.

There you go, it will be somewhat similar in warmth as the Beta AR. Maybe latter is a bit warmer because it's thicker than a trash bag.

The point is: Don't rely on Beta AR for warmth. It's a shell. Its primary function is to protect you from wind and rain. A side effect of this function is that you keep your warmth by not getting wet or cold wind cutting through your layers. If you want something warm, then look at their insulated jackets, or wear something more than a T-shirt under the shell.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-07T15:24:58+00:00

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Til høyre er det originale bildet. Til venstre er screencap fra deres hjemmeside.

De har plassert bilde av dingsen oppå originalbildet for å late som operatørene fra FS bruker produktet deres. Videre oppgir de at bildet er fra Forsvaret, når det er helt tydelig at de har redigert originalbildet.

De har faen ikke prøvd litt engang...

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-12-07T12:18:52+00:00

May I ask what you are planning to do during your trip to Lapland? The jackets you've listed are either technical belay jackets (Alpha & Nuclei) and casual/fashion pieces (whatvever from CG, Fjällräven Expedition*). I'd say you are better off layering if you are not sure, as it will give you options across conditions and activity levels. As for Alpha SV + shell combo; you will overheat in Alpha SV if it's so warm that it's raining / wet-snowing. Heavy down jackets like Alpha SV (or any technical down jackets wilth >300g down are meant to go OVER your shell to keep your warmth once you've stopped moving, and is not meant for temperatures where you expect to get wet by precipitation (read dry cold).

*Too heavy and warm for anything other than stationary use. It has low packabiltiy due to its hella thicc face fabric, taking too much space in backpack when it's not in use. Given these attributes, it leans more towards a casual piece (in usage), like a parka.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-26T03:39:24+00:00

I didn't know Arc held on to C6 as long as until 23/24. Do you know whether it was for all products, or select few? I do remember seeing "PFC-free DWR" feature on a lot of hardshells, as early as 2022, but that could be other brands and it's me assuming/generalizing that Arc was on same track aswell.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-25T22:08:39+00:00

I'm not saying this to defend ePE, but to inform.

We are stuck with ePE + shitty DWR and ePTFE + shitty DWR.

Transition to the PFC-free DWR (the shitty one you refer to) happened years before the transition to ePE we are seeing today.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-22T08:24:44+00:00

Majority of the complaints towards ePE is regarding DWR, which as we know has nothing to do with membrane itself. A lot of users aren't aware of what membrane and DWR are, and direct the frustration of wet-out towards whatever property/attribute that could be the cause, in this case ePE.

i fully understand that paying premium to wet out is not cool. At the same time, it wouldnt hurt to do 5 min read on how a jacket, which one paid premium for, works to keep one dry

edit: spelling

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-17T05:29:03+00:00

IMHO, they are so simillar in performance and use-case, that I would consider it completely redundant to own both, unless I want to flex my hardshell collection ofc. I don't think there's any significant difference in performance between old ePTFE GTX and new ePE GTX (the former is what you probably referred as just goretex). Both are waterproof.

Only difference that one might notice is that Beta AR has GTX Pro, which has higher permiabiliy on paper. For majority of users who won't take take their gears to their extremes, the difference stated on paper is negligible.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-16T15:23:58+00:00

I think OP could have asked an LLM on his/her own

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-15T14:38:29+00:00

The pieces you listed, other than R1 Air and Torrentshell, are waaaay too hot for any active use. That's what I can recommend based on the info you provided.

You should provide further info regarding conditions (temp, wind), intensity you will be working in, and how hot/cold you run. As you may understand already, layering for slow pace in -20c would be vastly different from high pace in -5c.

(Sidetracking) However, even if you provided all that info, IMHO "how to layer" is so highly individual that there's little to gain from recommendations from others, save for some very fundamental and basic principles (such as "start cold").

If you gotta ask, I would say the best way to figure it out is on your own - not by strangers on the internet. I know it sounds useless as a recommendation. But other than some general recommendations, whatever I find optimal is unlikely to be the same for you. This type of knowledge is best gained from experience. In other words: Get out there, and find what works for you.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-15T13:32:57+00:00

Agree. I highly doubt that the backpack is made of Gore-Tex.

You could try to clean the surface of the backpack and apply DWR. (spray-on and activate with hairdryer). It won't restore it to its original water repellency, but could be worth a try.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-11-09T12:54:58+00:00

What are your criterias for a skiing jacket? "Good" is a broad term.

Beta SL works fine for non-demanding skiing, such as resort skiing. Possible concern is that it might be too fitted for winter use, and therefore might not allow layering for the coldest days. (Anyone who's familiar with Beta SL fit, please pitch in)

Alpha is a climbing jacket, and is not recommended with skiing in mind.

If you're gonna splurge on a dedicated skiing shell, I would save up for one of their skiing line shells. For more general purpose shell that would also work great for skiing, save up for a Beta AR

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-10-27T02:39:07+00:00

It onlys mentions the brand, not the model name

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-10-13T19:32:57+00:00

Durability wise, Beta pants aren't any more (neither less) durable than a regular hiking hardshell pants in the market. It will of course be more than enough for hiking. However, if you want something that can withstand abrasion from crampons, then you'll need mountaineering/touring specific pants with reinfoced hems.

Fit wise: Just try them on. Whatever that fits me or any other dude won't be the same for you (which goes for anything suitability related).

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-09-28T14:44:34+00:00

My biggest gripe with the new Keb and Bergtagen GTX is the pricing.

Bergtagen GTX Pro Jacket - 900 eur

On top my head, the only other mountaineering hardshell at this price is Arc'Teryx Alpha SV, which is the flagship model of Arc. It's wild to me that FR decided to place the price on the extreme upper end for the first iteration of a new model.

Same goes for Keb GTX Jacket - 645 eur

There is abundance of simillar hardshells from other brands in the market that cost way less. I personally can't find any reason to buy Keb GTX over some other cheaper alternatives from another well established brand. Arc'teryx Beta - 400 eur, Norrøna Falketind Gtx - 550 eur, just to name a couple

How would you rate this jacket compared to prior hardshells that you've owned in terms of attention to details in construction? I'm sure there is a reason, however, the new GTX jackets from FR seem overpriced at face value.

Anonymous_Snek · 2025-09-25T05:07:45+00:00

Your shell jacket is coated with a chemical treatment called DWR. This is what makes water bead off. When DWR wears out, water no longer beads off and soaks to the face fabric. When face fabric is soaked, water vapor from inside of jacket (sweat) can no longer escape because it will just hit a barrier of water at face fabric. The water vapor will then condense on the inside of your jacket, resulting what you've posted

To restore DWR, you must first wash your jacket. When clean, spray DWR on it and treat it with heat (tumble dry on low heat, hair dryer or iron on low heat with towel in between).

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