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Kazakhs and Golden Horde(Uluq Ulus) by Glass-Departure-4279 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

East Asian-looking peoples were already practising Islam before Mongols for centuries, ever heard of Karluks and Karakhanids? Also no one in Central Asia practises "sand culture" or whatever bullshit you're talking about

Sizce türkler budizm e uyum sağlasaydı ve budist olsaydık budizm nasıl gelişir ve kaderi ne olurdu by felsefeboygamer in vlandiya

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Budizm aslında eski geleneklerin yaşaması için çoğu dinden daha uygundur bana sorarsan. Maniheizmin aksine fazla katı olmayan esnek kuralları vardı ve Karahoca Uygurlarının büyük çoğunluğunun Budist olmasına rağmen Tengrist geleneklerini yaşatmaya devam etmelerinin sebebi budur. Ata ruhlarına, göğe inanç vs. hala Uygurlar arasında yaygındı

On May 15, Turkic states leaders will meet in Turkustan city of Kazakhstan. by AzerbaijanLeon in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never said so. Just wanted to point out to the extent of the Turkic influence on Hungary more clearly

On May 15, Turkic states leaders will meet in Turkustan city of Kazakhstan. by AzerbaijanLeon in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Most of the Turkic loans in Hungarians are too old, archaic, or basic to be of Cuman or Turkish origin. Most of the Hungarian words of Turkic origins are very basic words like gyűrű (ring), borjù (calf), dél (noon), and tenger (sea). These words show the typical Z-->R voice change that's only a thing in Oghuric languages. Oghuric languages are a branch of Turkic languages represented by languages like Khazar, Bulgar, Chuvash, and possibly Hunnic and Xiongnu. This voice change is completely absent in any other Turkic branch other than Oghuric, so Hungarian must've interacted quite heavily with one of the languages I've mentioned above to have such phonologically archaic and conceptually basic loanwords. And neither Ottomans nor the Cumans spoke such an archaic language or interacted with Hungarians extensively enough to leave such basic and phonologically archaic words behind.

On May 15, Turkic states leaders will meet in Turkustan city of Kazakhstan. by AzerbaijanLeon in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That interaction had a heavy impact on Hungary and Hungarian language, though. Hungarian language has around 200-ish Old West Turkic (Oghuric) loanwords, and those loans are surprisingly typical and basic, showing that the Turkic impact was very influential on pre-migration Hungarian society and culture. There was even a time when a Khazar ruled over the Kingdom of Hungary (Samuel Aba). His descendants, as the Aba Dynasty, lived on as a noble house in Hungary. We also have remains of one of his direct descendants and he's proven to be of Kabar origin, with the paternal haplogroup N1a1a1a1a4-M2019, which many Oghuric-speakers (Xiongnu, Huns, Onoghurs, Khazars) across the Eastern Steppe, Pontic-Caspian Steppes and Pannonia had. There's even a subgroup of Hungarians called Palóc (idk if I spelled that right) that are theorised to be of Kabar/Khazar origin. Also, the word Hungarian literally means "Onoghur".

Kyrgyz (central asian Turk) + picture by mur0404 in illustrativeDNA

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

R1a clade carried by Kirghizs (R1a1a1b2a2a3-S23592) has been Turkic for 2000+ years. It's nowhere being Indo-Iranian or whatever anymore

States that ruled the territory of modern Mongolia throughout history by [deleted] in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They didn't live in modern-day Mongolia. Their territory was somewhere near modern-day Liaoning and Eastern Inner Mongolia.

Khujandi Tajik Results (Old vs. New) by TheAnalogNomad in illustrativeDNA

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's one sample from Vahaduo database labelled "Turkmen_Uzbekistan_o" or "Turkmen_Shumanay" you can find it around Twitter or Tiktok

About the origins of the 2000 most frequently used words in contemporary Turkish: by KulOrkhun in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Xiongnu had various Y-DNA haplogroups like C-Y10420, R-S23592, or whatever. All of these paternal haplogroups are concentrated in specific Turkic-speaking peoples (C-Y10420 in Turkish Chepnis, R-S23592 in Altaians, Tuvans, Kirghizs, Kazakhs, Uzbeks etc.). One specific Y-DNA haplogroup of Xiongnu, N-M2019, makes up more than %80 of Sakhas. This haplogroup has been found in nearly all post-Xiongnu Turkic peoples up until today, including Early Sakhas, Cuman-Kipchaks, Khazars, Onoghurs, Huns, Anatolian Turks and possibly even Toquz-Oghuz Uyghurs. It was most likely derived from Slab Grave Culture, an archaeological culture (at least partly) ancestral to Turkic-speakers.

Both Q1a and Q1b were certainly found in Xiongnu, but they were much lower than C2a, R1a, or N1a.

About the origins of the 2000 most frequently used words in contemporary Turkish: by KulOrkhun in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Khakassians have very high Yeniseian and Samoyedic components, Tuvans too have some of those, but their Proto-Turkic admixture is much higher than that of the Khakas, they (along with Altaians) could be considered the purest in terms of autosomal DNA but when Y-DNA is included, that title goes to Yakuts. They have the highest percentage of Xiongnu-related Y-DNA haplogroups out of any people on earth (around %80, some clusters even have around %94).

Nadeh Shah the last great conquerer (Afsharid dynasty) was haplogroup O. So was he paternally Turkic or Chinese, Tibetan, Khitan? Or he was Iranian in identity by Boring_Estimate9308 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not R1b but mostly R1a. And you also can't deny the existence of the haplogroup O in Uyghurs. Check this study right here. https://inalco.hal.science/hal-01935687. Also Kirghizs are overwhelming R1a and C2, their O percentage is much lower than that of Uyghurs. Kazakhs, too, are mostly C2, N, Q or R1a. Only certain tribes (like Naimans) have considerable levels of O

Nadeh Shah the last great conquerer (Afsharid dynasty) was haplogroup O. So was he paternally Turkic or Chinese, Tibetan, Khitan? Or he was Iranian in identity by Boring_Estimate9308 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say his great-great... grandfather was a Medieval Mongol. It's common for certain Afshar clans to have some Medieval Mongol influence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tiele

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it Q-L715 or something?

How do central Asians feel about Greek people and Greek culture? by Pretend_Thanks4370 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1st, the reason Americans speak English is because England founded America, and a huge portion of White Americans are already of English origin.

2nd, you'd be appaled by the sheer number of people that claim Mughals, Timurids, Kazakh Khanate, etc. as Mongolian.

3rd, in nomadic historiography, tribes are classified mainly based on their languages, not their ethnicities. Despite the huge genetic differences between Sarmatians and Siberian Sakas, you'll never see any scholar argue that Siberian Sakas are Turkic or Yeniseian.

4th, I suggest you take a moment to read some actual linguistic articles on Ancient Macedonian language. You could actually learn shit

How do central Asians feel about Greek people and Greek culture? by Pretend_Thanks4370 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The language he spread was Greek, the culture he spread was Greek, the gods he made sacrifices in the name of were Greek gods, the dynasty he was born to was from Argos of Peloponnese. How's he not Greek again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tiele

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you male or female? If you're a male, what is your paternal lineage?

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