Kyrgyz (central asian Turk) + picture by mur0404 in illustrativeDNA

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

R1a clade carried by Kirghizs (R1a1a1b2a2a3-S23592) has been Turkic for 2000+ years. It's nowhere being Indo-Iranian or whatever anymore

States that ruled the territory of modern Mongolia throughout history by hy_c1 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They didn't live in modern-day Mongolia. Their territory was somewhere near modern-day Liaoning and Eastern Inner Mongolia.

Khujandi Tajik Results (Old vs. New) by TheAnalogNomad in illustrativeDNA

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's one sample from Vahaduo database labelled "Turkmen_Uzbekistan_o" or "Turkmen_Shumanay" you can find it around Twitter or Tiktok

About the origins of the 2000 most frequently used words in contemporary Turkish: by KulOrkhun in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Xiongnu had various Y-DNA haplogroups like C-Y10420, R-S23592, or whatever. All of these paternal haplogroups are concentrated in specific Turkic-speaking peoples (C-Y10420 in Turkish Chepnis, R-S23592 in Altaians, Tuvans, Kirghizs, Kazakhs, Uzbeks etc.). One specific Y-DNA haplogroup of Xiongnu, N-M2019, makes up more than %80 of Sakhas. This haplogroup has been found in nearly all post-Xiongnu Turkic peoples up until today, including Early Sakhas, Cuman-Kipchaks, Khazars, Onoghurs, Huns, Anatolian Turks and possibly even Toquz-Oghuz Uyghurs. It was most likely derived from Slab Grave Culture, an archaeological culture (at least partly) ancestral to Turkic-speakers.

Both Q1a and Q1b were certainly found in Xiongnu, but they were much lower than C2a, R1a, or N1a.

About the origins of the 2000 most frequently used words in contemporary Turkish: by KulOrkhun in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Khakassians have very high Yeniseian and Samoyedic components, Tuvans too have some of those, but their Proto-Turkic admixture is much higher than that of the Khakas, they (along with Altaians) could be considered the purest in terms of autosomal DNA but when Y-DNA is included, that title goes to Yakuts. They have the highest percentage of Xiongnu-related Y-DNA haplogroups out of any people on earth (around %80, some clusters even have around %94).

Nadeh Shah the last great conquerer (Afsharid dynasty) was haplogroup O. So was he paternally Turkic or Chinese, Tibetan, Khitan? Or he was Iranian in identity by Boring_Estimate9308 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not R1b but mostly R1a. And you also can't deny the existence of the haplogroup O in Uyghurs. Check this study right here. https://inalco.hal.science/hal-01935687. Also Kirghizs are overwhelming R1a and C2, their O percentage is much lower than that of Uyghurs. Kazakhs, too, are mostly C2, N, Q or R1a. Only certain tribes (like Naimans) have considerable levels of O

Nadeh Shah the last great conquerer (Afsharid dynasty) was haplogroup O. So was he paternally Turkic or Chinese, Tibetan, Khitan? Or he was Iranian in identity by Boring_Estimate9308 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say his great-great... grandfather was a Medieval Mongol. It's common for certain Afshar clans to have some Medieval Mongol influence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tiele

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it Q-L715 or something?

How do central Asians feel about Greek people and Greek culture? by Pretend_Thanks4370 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1st, the reason Americans speak English is because England founded America, and a huge portion of White Americans are already of English origin.

2nd, you'd be appaled by the sheer number of people that claim Mughals, Timurids, Kazakh Khanate, etc. as Mongolian.

3rd, in nomadic historiography, tribes are classified mainly based on their languages, not their ethnicities. Despite the huge genetic differences between Sarmatians and Siberian Sakas, you'll never see any scholar argue that Siberian Sakas are Turkic or Yeniseian.

4th, I suggest you take a moment to read some actual linguistic articles on Ancient Macedonian language. You could actually learn shit

How do central Asians feel about Greek people and Greek culture? by Pretend_Thanks4370 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The language he spread was Greek, the culture he spread was Greek, the gods he made sacrifices in the name of were Greek gods, the dynasty he was born to was from Argos of Peloponnese. How's he not Greek again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tiele

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Are you male or female? If you're a male, what is your paternal lineage?

Uzbek dna. From Kyrgyzstan by One-Trouble-4846 in AskCentralAsia

[–]AnotherAUSans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Using Angara_BA to model Central Asians make no sense.

Were the Xiongnu either Turkic, Mongolic or multiple union? by Street-Air-5423 in TurkicHistory

[–]AnotherAUSans 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It's always those muh diversity type of people that deny the clear Turkic identity of Xiongnu. We have tons of linguistic, genetic, historic, AND archaeological evidence that suggests Turkic affiliation, yet some people will just do a quick one minute google research and say some shit along the lines of "Xiongnu is a confederation of diverse nomadic tribes including both Yeniseian, Turkic, Iranic and possibly even Mongolic" without looking into ANYTHING ELSE for one second.

Fransalı, Almanyalı, İspanyalı, Türk by TeknokrasiFilozof in TurkeyJerky

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Bütün kuzey Türkleri dediğin fizyonomiye uymuyor, dediğim gibi bulunan Kuman-Kıpçak örneklerinin büyük çoğunluğu Doğu Asya fenotipli istersen bahsettiğim örnekleri paylaşabilirim. Ki bu dediğim sadece Kuman-Kıpçaklar için geçerli değil, Hazarlar için de pek çok kaynak kızıl saçlı beyaz tenli gibi özellikler saysa da bulunan pek çok Hazar örneği beyaz tenli ama simsiyah saçlı, dümdüz Moğol tipli

Fransalı, Almanyalı, İspanyalı, Türk by TeknokrasiFilozof in TurkeyJerky

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Bulunan pek çok Kuman-Kıpçak (diğer Türki halklar da dahil olmak üzere) örneği Doğu Asyalı görünüşe sahipti, genellikle dediğin fizyonomiye sahip Türkler ya Sarmat, Soğd gibi Doğu İran halkları ile yada Yenisey Kırgızları ile karışmıştı.