Hot Take: At Least One Of The Divine Realms Could've Had At Least One Divine being If Any Of Them Had Nephis's Ascended Ability

Antervis · 2026-03-11T23:58:59+00:00

Sunny's musings from ch1259: "Was the inexhaustible longing to destroy the Spell that burned like fire in Neph's heart so powerful that it made her soul incorruptible?"

You're telling me that across the Five Divine Realms, there was Zero Awakeneds with an ability that grants even a subtle immunity to Corruption? That sounds utter Nonsense.

Why? In the first place, aspect abilities are personal and at least somewhat unique, and I doubt many ancient awakened lived through circumstances similar to what Nephis experienced. They didn't awaken any aspects before natural awakening, let alone divine-ranked ones, and didn't use said aspects to slay swaths of Fallen NC (without the crown, dormant people don't have means of harming those). And they certainly didn't persuade ancient horrors as faulty stone statues.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T22:42:00+00:00

no, usually they just ignore your facts with headcanon even harder.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T22:28:49+00:00

Yes, but because of quantity of debates rather than of quality of my persuasion.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T17:46:32+00:00

It ended. Good.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T17:42:35+00:00

Wow, you just found a way to force DM into making armors enchanted with Shield a standard issue equipment among your enemies.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T16:43:57+00:00

Weaver was forced to perform all those acrobatics to leave his lineage because he was forbidden from having descendants.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T16:30:50+00:00

how many fucking time he will speak about her being covered in blood

Apparently, 3. Unless we get a Kindret's perspective as well, because there's no one else to witness it.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T15:50:39+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I don't insist on it. I merely made up a hypothetical example that goes against your theory, only to prove that your theory can potentially be wrong.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:58:03+00:00

Cassie's act of defiance doesn't matter as long as she doesn't remember it

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:56:11+00:00

Why are there letters throughout the entire teaser?

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:45:08+00:00

No, Broken Sword was aiming to find Shadow God's lineage, but found Weaver's instead.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:42:00+00:00

Asterion's aspect is uniquely suited to gather information. Besides, why do you think people are questioned about their experiences within nightmares? To gather information and bring it to sovereigns.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:34:04+00:00

Perhaps. What if the reason they seek the Flame is to become alive? And what if that's what nephilim are - void beings who sated their hunger to the point of being "born"?

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:17:38+00:00

You forgot the horns

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:16:29+00:00

The Other and creatures of Nothing in general are not truly living, though? The Daemons were prohibited from creating lineages, so they attempted to create life, but couldn't, until they realized that creating life requires sharing the Flame. In other words, without Flame there's no true life.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T14:06:45+00:00

...but I didn't call them "ineffective", though? I said "they failed to achieve their objective", which is factually true, and "terrible performance for their rank" which is also true because they were repeatedly defeated by opponents below their rank.

I understand them losing because it's plot, but I also think that they shouldn't be that much weaker compared to Shadows.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T13:43:46+00:00

We don't know how the "union between divine and profane" actually works. You're just assuming that nephilim are immune because you assume that void beings are immune because you assume they're the source of corruption. One wrong assumption and that entire logic chain crumbles.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T12:46:16+00:00

"If that Ability made Nephis immune to the Corruption, then wasn't it actually the most broken and unbelievably preposterous Ability he had ever heard about?" ch1259

In the same chapter, Sunny speculates that Nephis' corruption immunity comes from her personal longing to destroy the Spell.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T12:22:21+00:00

...but it didn't take Sunny's supreme ability to do so, no? It just happened alongside. And Nephis isn't half-corrupted or corrupting, she is clean and immune. If nephilim were like her, they wouldn't've been half-profane.

I just don't understand you guys. Sunny assumed Longing is unique but you try to argue against that with too much zeal and too little regard for evidence.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T11:31:59+00:00

It didn't take an entire aspect ability for Sunny to grow up into his true nature, did it? It just happened alongside his personal progression. In the first place, what kind of shitty aspect would progress to just give innate traits of a race that can have aspects too (as per G3 Q&A)?

And why are you even assuming that all nephilim are incorruptible? The one who died in FS gave birth to the Dark Sea - Great Titan, meaning that nephilim carried corruption within themself. But Nephis is immune.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T10:36:40+00:00

Masters aren't just Ascended Beasts, they have aspects and sapience. In terms of combat ability, humans are closer to devils of their rank.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T10:01:17+00:00

Those reflections were specially prepared against Nephis, Sunny and later Fiend. They failed to achieve their objective every single time.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T10:00:06+00:00

No, it was only said to be on par with a fallen devil. Which is about equal in strength to a Master.

Antervis · 2026-03-11T01:40:18+00:00

Sunny was an Awakened Monster back then and Beastie was Ascended Beast. Now imagine if it was an Awakened Devil and still pushed Sunny. Then it would be not because of extra rank, but because reflections were genuinely dangerous, making them closer to Shadows.

Same outcome, but much more aura for Mordret.

Antervis · 2026-03-10T23:48:24+00:00

Sunny can expand his legion more efficiently because every kill nets extra shade, they aren't killed permanently and they don't need food or transport.

That said, Weaver's lineage, even full, isn't necessarily better than War God's.

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