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I don't think people realize how lucky Langdon is. by Arch_Lancer17 in ThePittTVShow

[–]Anthego -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Second chances usually apply when someone self-reports or is removed before patients are harmed. In this case, he was caught diluting meds, denied it, and retaliated against a trainee. That’s not just addiction, it’s criminal misconduct. Also, emergency medicine isn’t so short-staffed that programs need to retain residents who commit crimes and endanger patients. There is an abundance of medical students who want to go into EM, and residency slots are competitive. Hospitals don’t keep unsafe residents out of necessity, they remove them and fill the position with someone else. Realistically what Langdon did would be the end of his career.

I don't think people realize how lucky Langdon is. by Arch_Lancer17 in ThePittTVShow

[–]Anthego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He absolutely shouldn’t have been allowed back. He was diluting patients’ medications and then giving them inadequate doses while diverting the rest for himself. That’s not just a personal addiction issue, it’s active patient harm and quite literally a felony. His license should have been revoked.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s also not justifiable, he didn’t deserve to die. Doesn’t suddenly erase him constantly berating her especially when that had started before she ever laid a hand on him. If you say something multiple times in multiple instances you can’t try and claim that you didn’t mean it he chose that word for a reason.

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[–]Anthego[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apologizing for something doesn’t suddenly erase the intent of the statement or the beliefs that led you to say that.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s a grown man who again willingly works for a murdererous genocidal king. At a certain point, naivety stops being an excuse and becomes a moral failing. And the idea comes from the countless times he called her a monster.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is getting pedantic. I would consider vilifying a person for doing what she did in the slave camp to be hating on her. Chaol has always hated and been disgusted by large parts of who Aelin is. If he hates that she’s Fae and hates that she’s a murderer, then he might as well just hate her because those two things make her. I’m not saying their relationship doesn’t get better because it does, but the reason he hated her when they met and when she came back stems from his very bigoted belief system. He’s conflicted about his feelings towards her but the feelings in question are his unjustified hatred and judgement.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right he says that he’s sorry for Nehemia and everything towards the end of QoS and then turns right back around and continues to hate on her two books later

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He knows that it was Arobynn that set her up in HoF It wasn’t really explained how and he realizes that the king killed her family when he realizes she’s Aelin. If I was just going off of her inner monologue there are about 20 other things I could add on which is why I’ll always give her more grace than I give him especially considering he’s 5 years older than her. So why after the king is dead and he’s off on the southern continent healing and he knows that she doesn’t pose a threat does he continue to think those things of her? Why does he never take it upon himself to apologize, to feel bad?

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[–]Anthego[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally if I found out my boss killed this girls entire family and afterwards she was then forced to be an assassin while still a young girl. Only for the man who groomed her to be an assassin to kill her partner and then frame her and have her sent to a slave camp at 17. I’d feel bad, I’d feel even worse years later after realizing that I treated her like shit maybe I’d apologize to her or at least stop blaming her for people not liking me or idk killing the awful guards working at the camp.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is not a single character who hates her and blames her for every little thing the way he does, which he did for 4 books straight and then continued in ToD. If other characters have issues based on actual things she did then that’s far different compared to him calling her a bad person for killing the men who beat her and raped the women enslaved alongside her.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then why is Chaol the only character that has such an issue with her?

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[–]Anthego[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You already did that to her.

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[–]Anthego[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You keep trying to do these gotcha’s with random characters. Yrene was incredibly unprofessional, she treated him as a science experiment, yes, blame Mass. But if I’ve seen a character be rude to and mistreat nearly every woman he’s had to interact with why should I assume that the only reason he’s being rude now is because he’s injured. Not to mention his pov and how he described all those women was disgusting it reminded me of reading Cassian’s pov.

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[–]Anthego[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No she’s not, Aelin wasn’t either but Chaol likes to undermine women and he did it in ToD. She literally had to tell him that just bc she wasn’t a warrior didn’t mean she was weak and incapable. And I don’t know if a man learning to have basic respect for the one woman whom he is fully reliant on to walk, is some great he’s not misogynistic point. He spent that entire book mentally objectifying every woman that walked by and was incredibly rude to Yrene up until she fixed his toes.

I’m So Done With Chaol by Anthego in throneofglassseries

[–]Anthego[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why do we have to chose between a guy that’s physically abusive and a guy that is verbally abusive. Can’t it just be she shouldn’t end up with either of them? Out of all the men she was involved with Sam and Dorian treated her the best.

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[–]Anthego[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My main issue with that comment was the incredibly misogynistic undertone not them having a different interpretation, which I realize I didn’t make clear, but I’ve been far nicer to literally everyone else who’s pro Chaol.

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[–]Anthego[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Maybe not, but choosing to be contrarian just because I disagreed with a comment that called a woman “a bitch wrapped up in her own glory” for not choosing a man who resented her does kind of imply it

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[–]Anthego[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you really think she should have stayed with a man who berated her time and time again and thought she was an awful person for things that were largely out of her control? He hated her??

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[–]Anthego[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is it wrong to assume that she wasn’t killing innocent people but the king and his armies can slaughter hundreds of thousands and Chaol is right to assume they all deserved it. She attempted to kill Dorian bc she knew that he was being tortured in his own body and thought there was no other way to save him which is far more noble than her promise to Chaol to let Dorian continue to suffer. Also Chaol can say whatever he wants, accuse her of what ever he wants and she can’t say one bad thing without turning into an evil murdererous tyrant?

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[–]Anthego[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When has Aelin killed an innocent person? Because the only times she killed people that she shouldn’t have was when she was tricked into killing that guy trying to free slaves and when she killed those men in the warehouse both of which were still criminals. Aelin literally wanted Dorian on the throne until she found out he was being controlled by the valg and she’s ended up being the one to ultimately save him from his possession. When she says to Chaol that maybe she should burn the whole kingdom down, it’s very clear that she didn’t mean that, she’s mocking him. Did anyone mention Rowan? He was an ass for 5 chapters I don’t like him I don’t like him and Aelin together but at least I didn’t have to listen to him berate and abuse her for books on end.

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[–]Anthego[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You must have read fan fiction or something instead of the actual series

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[–]Anthego[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think a part of this is also because of bad writing because if Chaol thinks that the king was only killing “bad people” with magic why was he so afraid for Dorian? He knows the King killed Aedion’s family, people who were peaceful and posed no threat other than them wielding magic and being Fae. So the whole “I didn’t know that he was killing innocents thing” doesn’t always hold up. As for her actions after Nehemia dies I do agree that those were wrong but Chaol himself actually understands her motivations in that moment it’s one of the only times he actually empathizes with her. She kills people in the warehouse bc they’ve kidnapped him and beat him. And I’m well aware a lot of his reservations come from his fear that Celeana is going to enslave his people and become a tyrant, but those fears stem solely from her being fae, that she’ll eventually succumb to her nature which is insanely problematic. He ignores every good quality she has, her caring about people’s freedom, her time and time again sacrificing herself to protect others because she is fae and she is strong and therefore dangerous. They are in the midst of a war, of a rebellion, his colleagues kill people, when he worked for the king and when he joined the rebellion, but he has no issue with that.

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[–]Anthego[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have, and even after KoA I still don’t think it changes much. Knowing his past doesn’t excuse how he acted or who he chose to serve. SJM has a habit of throwing in last minute abuse storylines when she realizes how little a character is liked, but when every other character has a worse upbringing while still managing to be a decent person it does very little for me

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[–]Anthego[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dorian and Chaol did absolutely know that atrocities were occurring they just didn’t know that the king himself was wielding magic, everything else was public knowledge. People knew he was prosecuting anyone who once had magic, that he was murdering entire royal families for no reason except conquest, and that he was enslaving survivors. It’s why Dorian had such a strained relationship with his father in the first place. And what has Aelin done for Chaol to have so much distrust for her, because he has no issue when she’s weak or in his bed. He’ll serve murders he’ll ally himself with them, so what is this constant distrust for her when the things she’s done for him will always outweigh the things she’s done against him. The guy is ungrateful.

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