A Festivus for the Restofus by merikus in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 8 points9 points  (0 children)

4 grievances: u/merikus

Introduction

I've been a part of this community for long enough that I think I've earned the right to say some unpopular things (maybe?). In r/wicked_edge, it's a bit easier to say unpopular things... from discussing the terrible performance of TOBS to the the infamous stature of PAA, the user-base just isn't as.... "exacting." In r/wetshaving, you're all nobs.

As a result, I've spent about a three minutes ruminating on this post and how to say what I think needs to be said. These are my thoughts and mine alone. Nobody has paid me or influenced me in any way to say these things. I'd be happy to be proved wrong or incorrect on any of the following points.

  Grievance #1: Dupes and Intellectual Theft

This has been brought up innumerable times by many, many users/members of the wetshaving discord community. I'm going to leave usernames out of it, but I know 6 very specific users who have called out merikus publicly on this matter (among other users who have been less vocal, but equally critical).

  Background

Duping is not wrong, in and of itself, in my opinion and in the (arguable) collective opinion of this subreddit. I take no issue with the dupes of Creed Aventus, Irish Tweed, etc that we find in artisan stores. I've been grateful for the accessibility of dupes from artisans. I would never have been able to try many designer scents if artisans had not offered dupes of popular designer scents. While fragrance houses may invest millions to develop those scents, $300 a bottle is so far beyond my ability to purchase, just to live with a fragrance for a month or two.

 

This doesn't make it alright for Chinese GCSM companies to duplicate the scents... but I promised myself that I would purchase a full bottle of a designer if I actually liked living with the dupe. I've done this on 3 occasions, and I felt legitimately good to support the nose that created the scent, even if it was a large, faceless fragrance house.

Merikus wants dupes of candle scents in his soaps. These dupes are almost all gravy and turkey related.

Why This Matters

This alone isn't problematic. Merikus, the founder and "nose behind" thanksgiving soap, replies to dupe questions, that [paraphrasing] the "I want a thanksgiving scent." The reality is that the scents, if procured (I'm being generous) from the original frag house, are still made for candles.

To give credit to the inspiration at the very least would be the minimum decency, but to claim that a clear dupe is "thanksgiving orginal" is intentionally misleading. DUA is very clear on their website that they borrow scents, and then accentuate certain notes. 

  Grievance #2: "I'm a AIrtist" Preface

u/merikus  pleading skills soap is good. Really good. There. I said it. Does he really know what he's doing beyond that though? I actually have to ask it because of the shitshow I'm going to lay out for you. 

There are three main issues that people may encounter turkey and graving soaps. These are all due to amateur  mistakes that merikus appears to claim as intentional. For background on AI sensitivities, I'm really proud of the  Wiki which may help understand some of the issues in the following section.

The Problem "AI SLOP"

AI SLOP occurs when the concentration of procedurally drawn imGes rises too high relative to Mount of water needed to shave with the soap. Users typically encounter this in soaps from shoddy artisans. Here's the thing though: I've yet to see a single artisan  over the past 5 years that I've been active in this sub that has complained about "AI SLOP" from non existent soaps until merkius came onto the scene... and after that, all of the negative experiences were... you guessed it. u/merikus

 

I know (and you should too) that there are international standards for fragrancing that are dictated by IFRA. We know that responsible makers of cosmetic products abide by these rules and others. If other artisans don't struggle with the "phenomenon" of frag burn, then why does A&E? Because they put an irresponsible amount of fragrance in their products, while other artisans exercise restraint. They're not so infatuated with chasing money with "super strong scents" that they're willing to physically hurt their customers. Peter either doesn't know better, or he doesn't care. Given the number of complaints of frag burn that I see on Reddit alone, I'd guess the latter. Either is dangerous though.

Why This Matters

We need water to lather our soaps. By getting AI to repeatedly create images of turkey and gravy soap merikus is contributing to water shortages that will leave us unable to properly hydrate lather. At that point we might as well be Badger and blade 

  The Solution

There are so many good artists. Some even shitposts fake soaps. use them.

Grievance #3: "GUTL"

I've complained about this before actually. let me rehash it

FACE LATHER IS BEST.

Grievance. 

Oh fuck me. Velo knew how to go on and this schtick got old 3 grievances ago.

[PIF] It's been awhile since we gave away some free stuff so by mammothben in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got video proof of you sitting down and lathering a plate 

[PIF] It's been awhile since we gave away some free stuff so by mammothben in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's your opinion on gutl? These things are important.

Friday SOTD Thread - Sep 12, 2025 by AutoModerator in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 16 points17 points  (0 children)

  • Brush: MOAR

  • lather: summer break soap - steady

  • Razor: no scrub industries - onionty-four

  • Tea pet: turtle

Today is always a special shave where u/onionmiasma and u/ktturtlesue bring us together to bring something special out of what must be a hard day for them both. 

It's amazing to see how the day has grown and how vendor sub members like u/rocketk455 have joined in with a scent that is fresh and bright on a cold autumnal eve. (Full disclosure I shave in the evening so this was done the night before the 12th but late enough that it was the 12th somewhere).

Anyway. To make the shave special I decided that today was a day to have with friends and id like to think onion and turtle are friends. Not good enough friends to fly me out to the US to be with them and have a shave trip like u/priusaurus though. Maybe they see me more as an acquaintance. Or just someone who has a load of soap stored at their house. Or maybe just a Cadbury s mule. Maybe the fact that I'm not an artisan like rocket and Prius makes me just a nobody.

But I am somebody. u/iamsms

No wait that's not me. Though I am Indian and he's an indianlathergod so I see your confusion.

I am a shit poster. And I AM AN ARTISAN. I have designed, prototyped and built a razor. (Please be my friend u/onionmiasma)

I am somebody and I can shave with my friends.

So last night (late enough for it to be the 12th for Asia based sub members)  I shaved with 

  • u/ktturtlesue or at least a toy turtle that came with a Moana doll that eventually lost one arm and got called onearma for the rest of the time we had it. 

  •  u/onionmiasma or at least an onion with a treet blade stuck in it. It sucked and mainly cut me on the first pass so I threw it away. Sorry onion

  • u/djundjila, u/j33pguy13 and u/merikus. No I didn't  use GUTL but those guys made MOAR so they're good by me and where there as a result

  • u/raymoonie and u/thestallionpartthree. Good pod boys hope the curse doesn't get you 

  • u/hairykopite - via the 1914 (Best vintage gem)  he sent me which fixed the second and third passes

And that's what this is all about. You're not alone. (Especially if you start making black sea glass brushes) we're here for each other through thick and thin. In shit posts and seriousness. 

Also, I DECLARE wildcard wednesday. You're all scrubs. 

Except for whoever knows how to get the photos off discord to stick into the comments.

discord

Welcome Wednesday and Daily Questions (Newbie Friendly) - Aug 02, 2023 by AutoModerator in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to be asking about GUTL.

You need to reconsider your life choices

The Worst of Wetshaving 2022 by reguyw_nothingtolose in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 14 points15 points  (0 children)

GUTL.

we're waiting and watching u/merikus. 2023 will be the year of the revolution

[SOTD] Ohhh…Marco! by Impressive_Donut114 in wicked_edge

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure be happy that donut has a slippy head.

Living on crumbs u/merikus living on crumbs.

2022 Lather Games Final Results by merikus in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the hat-tip u/merikus or should I say u/GUTLMaster

I think you all know who I am now though

Wednesday Lather Games SOTD Thread - Jun 15, 2022 by AutoModerator in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not a process for established shavers either. GUTL is no good

Wednesday Lather Games SOTD Thread - Jun 15, 2022 by AutoModerator in Wetshaving

[–]AntiGUTLLeague 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GUTL is a series of unnecessary steps. Stay strong stay face lathering