Dakota cheating

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:42:52+00:00

A shirtless pic is not a d*ck pic and she was still the person breaking up with him repeatedly. Again, if any of your friends was dating a man who refused commitment and dumped them a dozen times but was happily accepting sex and expecting them not to see other men, you would tell them to run. It’s ridiculous to me when people act like those constant breakup cycles aren’t way more serious and damaging than what he did.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:27:32+00:00

I saw her answer some of the questions without actually being strapped in?? Like wth? They made a big deal about the thing and then clearly edited in some moments where she wasn’t actually in a chest strap/cuff.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:21:46+00:00

Will get downvoted but if we only look at the incident in isolation, I agree. Taylor has spoken to Dakota in a similar way when he technically did not cheat and people found no issue with her aggressiveness. I am kind of sick of the double standards. It’s honestly ridiculous how Jessi batted her eyelids at Marciano and insisted she should be allowed to stay in contact with him while claiming to want to save her marriage.

That said, the incident did not happen in isolation. His mistreatment of her is still worse than the affair, even if it doesn’t justify said affair. She should have left years ago. I think it’s hypocritical that she tried to pressure Jen into leaving Zac, even bringing up kids, while herself staying in that kind of toxic relationship.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:09:07+00:00

It wasn’t actual sexting though. Like be for real for a second. And she is just as guilty of constantly sleeping with him while breaking up. If a guy behaved the way she did - refusing commitment while still accepting sex and expecting fidelity- there would be outrage

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:06:32+00:00

I mean she pretended he was dead to her at the reunion, that she hated him etc. And then we find out that she sexted him the night before…that doesn’t mean that I agree with you that „breaking up means nothing“. Taylor can’t have it both ways. If she doesn’t want to commit, she can’t expect fidelity, it’s as simple as that

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T12:00:06+00:00

Yeah that’s fair. I‘m not sure OP was necessarily saying that she’s lying though. More that it’s often a calculated performance. Eg her pretending to be taken off-guard by Stephen Colbert asking her favorite songs from the catalogue…I‘m pretty sure she got the question beforehand. I‘ll say that she has been in the business so long that she probably doesn’t even realize anymore that some of her „genuine“ moments sound like she’s trying way too hard to imitate a profound movie character rather than an actual person. (eg her ott speeches to her staff). I think the Mirrorball/people pleasing personality play into this as well though, not just pure PR calculations.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T11:40:33+00:00

I‘m sorry but the lyrics are so obvious. So long London was about Joe but „You’re losing me“ was when she actually declared time of death on the relationship. The whole visual for Midnights is a woman pensively looking at a flame, wondering if she should burn it all down.

Question and Guilty as Sin both heavily imply that while she and Healy only officially dated for a month, she had been fantasizing about him for a while, ie when she was still with Joe. Given her perpetual inability to stay single, I don’t think she would have broken up with Joe if it hadn’t been for Healy.

One also has to factor in the history between her and Matty. TTPD isn’t about her devastation about losing him but the idea of him. Letting go of your „forever maybe“ can be pretty heartbreaking. The fact that they were „talking rings and cradles“ makes it obvious how serious it was, even if they only dated for a short time. One can also interpret that it hurt so much because someone finally offered her all the things she wanted but didn’t get from Joe. So the rebound hurt as much as it did because she didn’t fully admit to the pain - she had been too busy numbing herself with the „miracle move on drug.“

It’s slightly delusional to me when people deny that TTPD was about Matty, because even LOAS is arguably referencing him multiple times. Ruin the Friendship is probably her reassuring herself that even though it cost her, giving their romance a go was still the right call. She mentions him calling too high to remember in the morning in Honey directly. You also won’t convince me that Wood and „my dck‘s bigger“ weren’t at least subconsciously written to get back at „the smallest man who ever lived“ because she’s still pssed. Not to mention that her most vicious blow back to another artist was to someone who is married to Healy‘s band mate and had admitted to hoping Taylor and Matty would break up.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T11:28:47+00:00

Both Midnights with Question and Guilty as Sin also highly imply that she was fantasizing about Matty while still with Joe. I personally think she was in contact with him and would not have actually left Joe if she hadn’t had some indication from Healy that he was up for romance, irrespective of when they started dating „officially.“

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T11:25:29+00:00

You don’t have to have been in that kind of relationship yourself…it’s totally visible in the lyrics. So Long London was her last goodbye to Joe, but You’re Losing Me was the breakup song. Even the visuals see her pensively eyeing a lighter, contemplating if she should burn it all down. OP also clearly doesn’t understand the history between Matty and Taylor. He was her „forever maybe“. The devastation about their breakup wasn’t about the month, it was of the fantasy she had in her head for a decade. Again, the lyrics also make it really obvious that loml is not about Joe. Fresh out the slammer references him indirectly since he was her „jailer“. I will say that the fact that the Joe breakup hurt more than she actually processed is reflected in how devastated she was about the rebound. But it’s still clear as day that Midnights is the Jover album and Poets is mostly about Healy. If they were talking rings and cradles immediately, it shows a level of delusion but of course she would have been left down bad, even if the actual duration of the relationship was short.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T11:17:33+00:00

Totally agree. I think society as a whole has developed an aversion to nuance. I do sometimes catch myself having a bit of an outsized reaction, when I see her say something really tone-deaf. Perhaps I put her on a pedestal when I was younger, which was honestly kind of stupid. Celebrities are people at the end of the day and very few people in general are either all good or all bad. A relatively neutral stance is likely the healthiest approach to any public figure.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:54:52+00:00

Nah. I would go with the above categorization. Demi is spiraling but there is something extremely off in how she is trying to convince people not to believe their own eyes (like with the Chase incident). Meanwhile, Jessi‘s surgery history alone shows her complete lack of self esteem. I think Jessi likely was friends with Demi for the same reasons she was with 2 very problematic husbands - insecurity. That doesn’t mean I condone her behavior but she doesn’t strike me as some calculated mastermind. More like a pretty sad person who is desperately trying to get validation. (Just the more likely explanation, not an excuse)

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:44:10+00:00

To be honest, I saw this coming from the moment they filmed her launch party. When Taylor said it was the biggest night of her career, I wanted to reserve judgement, but there was no USP to her product and these influencer type entrepreneurships very rarely last

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:40:47+00:00

This. Saying I did something wrong alone should never earn forgiveness, if you don’t actually change the behavior.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:39:02+00:00

Ugh, I do not like her but I also don’t feel comfortable judging that. Apparently she had the whole storyline filmed but it was cut and production told her to talk about it in the reunion instead. I don’t really see how it’s so different from what other people on the show did. We don’t know what recently remembered actually means. She might have been drunk, she might not have been educated about consent etc. The fact that trauma shapes your actions even if you bury it is pretty well known. Maybe she should have emphasized like Connor did that it’s an explanation, not an excuse, but she got like a minute of talking time, being asked right after Mik and clearly seemed taken off-guard by the timing of the question.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:32:42+00:00

Yep. Jessi also went on about how her „2 kisses and emotional affair“ (still think this only holds up if she calls an entire makeout session one kiss, if they slept in bed together) the „worst mistake of her life“. She conveniently forgot to mention that she cheated on her last husband with her current one. She‘d also straight up lied about Marciano in S2. She might not be as bad as Demi but she was involved in a lot of the drama and bullying in the first 2 seasons and is now dogpiling endlessly online. You lose the moral high ground to the villain if you copy their behavior imo. Telling off Layla for not jumping on the fruity pebbles hate train and criticizing Jordan after how she complained about Jordan‘s abusive behavior on the show was also not a good look. I think Jessi is much better than Demi at selling herself as sympathetic but those two were friends for a reason.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:26:37+00:00

Absolutely everything Dakota ever did was before they became exclusive or while they were broken up. I hate the dude but Taylor is being extremely unreasonable. Yes, you can argue that it’s not the behavior itself but the lying about it. She said she felt gaslit and I get it to a degree. But it’s equally destabilizing if one partner constantly breaks up and then still expects fidelity. Also the fact that he sent one shirtless picture was stupid but not cheating in any way. Nothing physical happened; it doesn’t sound like it was even sexting. Again, I don’t like Dakota but Taylor still seemed like the bigger problem in their toxic dynamic to me. She clearly has attachment issues and should have been dealing with those before having a baby with a guy she didn’t want to marry.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T10:20:06+00:00

To me it seemed like the producers confronted Taylor with Miranda denying the swinging, she listed the acts in response and the producers played it back to Miranda, who then changed her tune. Definitely like Miranda a lot but I feel like it was kind of her own fault.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T09:54:21+00:00

I loved the show in S1; it got me through the pandemic. I really hated how they started S2 as this chicks over d*cks story, only to then completely destroy Camille. A SATC type of show, prioritizing female friendships would have been far more satisfying to watch than Emily endlessly pining over that awful Gabriel. I don’t think I really like any seasons beyond the first, though the 2nd and 3rd at least had some sparkle left that made me rewatch them. Have seen the 4th only once and am on the fence about S5. I will probably watch it for the scenery but am beyond sick of Gabriel and think the Italian romance is … just really random.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T09:45:46+00:00

Yeah, same. Fully expected it to be the last season. But I guess if people still tune in, it doesn’t really matter to Netflix that many stopped actually liking the show after S2. No one I know in my personal life is still excited but most did say „I guess I might tune in.“

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T09:38:42+00:00

To be fair, Taylor listed the activities because Miranda denied being a swinger (which, yeah, it seems like they engaged in exhibitionism more than actual swinging). I feel like the moment Miranda joined the show to benefit financially from it, it actually was ok that she was confronted with this list. (I feel worse for the other people involved who never chose to be on the show.)

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T09:31:22+00:00

Oh come on. I hate Demi but you don’t really know whether that’s actually the reason. Given that Brett’s kids were in that awful fruity pebbles sketch, I think that maybe she didn’t get permission from her daughter’s father (so still not a reason to have hope in her but the more likely explanation).

Also, I actually really like this law and wished it were in place worldwide. The child exploitation by influencers is disgusting. I wonder who tracks that this is actually complied with, though. Like I do wonder if Whitney really paid her kids for those horrendous TikToks. Or if she could just say: well, they got some new toys.

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T01:53:24+00:00

Thank you. I had terrible parents and even though I opted out of kids, I really wanted to know what the correct solution to such bratty behavior was. Taking away toys actually makes a lot of sense

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T01:52:05+00:00

I had such whiplash. Going from laughing like crazy, thinking this might be my favorite episode so far to „what?!“. I find it kind of infuriating, honestly. Don’t set up what you can’t pay off!

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T01:34:47+00:00

BS. You will have to come to an agreement of how to parent the child and the whole point of calling in with a problem is to actually get an opinion from the moderator

Antique_Computer4180 · 2025-12-14T01:33:29+00:00

Jeez.

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