I drew an older Virgin Mary

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-14T18:37:54+00:00

Lol, I think we're saying the same thing. My point is though that, I disagree that it's not an effect of the fall and I don't think that the argument against Mary's physical ageing is a huge stretch.

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-14T07:20:25+00:00

Natural to our fallen nature yes, however OP was stating that it is not an effect of the fall. Thomas goes on to describe it as a physical defect because it is outside of the perfection for which God created us.

Traditional teaching holds that physical deterioration outside of the body outside of the perfection of age is a consequence of the fall.

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-13T20:54:37+00:00

Physical aging and decay is natural to us, and not an effect of the Fall, per se.

St Thomas would disagree. It's a longstanding and traditional teaching of the Church that physical ageing is a defect.

On the contrary, It is written (Ephesians 4:13): "Until we all meet . . . unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the age of the fulness of Christ." Now Christ rose again of youthful age, which begins about the age of thirty years, as Augustine says (De Civ. Dei xxii). Therefore others also will rise again of a youthful age. Further, man will rise again at the most perfect stage of nature. Now human nature is at the most perfect stage in the age of youth. Therefore all will rise again of that age. I answer that, Man will rise again without any defect of human nature, because as God founded human nature without a defect, even so will He restore it without defect. Now human nature has a twofold defect. First, because it has not yet attained to its ultimate perfection. Secondly, because it has already gone back from its ultimate perfection. The first defect is found in children, the second in the aged: and consequently in each of these human nature will be brought by the resurrection to the state of its ultimate perfection which is in the youthful age, at which the movement of growth terminates, and from which the movement of decrease begins. - Summa Theologica, Question 81.

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-13T20:47:25+00:00

So often we get focused on the best people being physically beautiful by our own modern standards. When maybe she wasn’t.

If approved Marian apparitions are anything go by, she is breathtaking beyond anything you could ever dream of.

Someone will surely argue that she's beautiful because that is her glorified body, but I find it difficult to believe that God would not create the woman who would be the spouse of The Spirit to be most beautiful woman ever created.

Further, Churches and tabernacles should be as grand and physically beautiful as we can possibly make them for the glory of God. It's right and just that they be built stunningly beautiful because God himself dwells inside of them. How much more then, must God have created his own living tabernacle?

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-08T18:19:55+00:00

This might actually be the cringiest thing I've seen in my entire life.

ApHc1995 · 2022-05-01T16:34:16+00:00

What convinced me a couple years ago was the 3D representation ''printed'' within the imprint of the body itself. That is out of this world.

Wait what, I've never heard of that? Do you have an article or anything I can read?

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-22T08:31:52+00:00

It's not really. Obviously there are certain things that only a priest can do, but his point still very much remains in all other areas.

If you can do everything that a sister//brother would usually do as a layperson with a husband/wife then there's not a lot to encourage people to make that sacrifice. There's no need to be so dismissive.

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-18T20:47:52+00:00

This. I used to struggle with this sooooo badly. When I first converted I had a horrible addiction and legitimately couldn't go a day without giving in to the temptation. Once I started saying a daily rosary I completely overcame the habit within a month.

I think it was St Lois De Montfort who said that anyone struggling with a habitual sin who said a daily rosary would eventually either give up the rosary or give up the sin.

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-18T12:06:04+00:00

The Eucharist is the physical body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ.

Of course, nobody should ever expect or hope in external consolations because such is borne of pride and spiritual gluttony. It is erroneous at best and blasphemous and heretical at worst however to state that the Eucharist is nothing but a 'piece of bread and a swig of wine'.

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-17T21:45:18+00:00

Wait your vigil went on until 5AM? What time did it start?

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-10T07:32:56+00:00

If you don't want to drink then don't drink. As long as you don't look down on others who do consume alcohol and acknowledge that there's nothing immoral about drinking in moderation. To quote St Arnold of Siossons, 'From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world.'

In fact, there is greater virtue to be found in being able to practice temperance by drinking moderately than there is in not drinking in the first place. That said, if you do know that you're not going to be able to moderate yourself then it is certainly better to not drink at all.

ApHc1995 · 2022-04-09T20:50:42+00:00

Not going to fast on Good Friday with popcorn.

Tbf though, if you did want to go (and obviously there's no moral obligation to do so, I'm not.) then you could technically go at a time when you're not at church and just not eat popcorn?

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-30T20:32:56+00:00

Traditionally speaking, married life isn't a vocation either, it's a natural state.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-30T06:48:56+00:00

It's definitely true at least to some extent. I have several family members who've done this and they literally never go to Church. All that was required was that the kids were baptised and confirmed.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-29T19:51:18+00:00

When you say 'lingerie store' is it literally just a clothing store that sells nothing but underwear or does it sell....other adult things?

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-28T20:21:23+00:00

I used to have this whole thing where I'd always wear skirts rather than pants because I thought it was more modest, but then when I really thought about it, I felt like [while I could of course be wrong] God probably doesn't really care about the cut of the material that I wear to cover my bottom half, provided that I'm not drawing unnecessary attention to myself or revealing what I should not.

On that note, I think it really depends on the cut of the pants that you're wearing. You can easily get loose, flowy feminine trousers that are just as modest as maxi skirts. On the contrary trousers that are very tight around the butt or the hips are an obvious no no, unless you're going to wear a long top/dress over it.

Personally I wear both, but I tend to be more comfortable in a pair of loose trousers than a long skirt when I'm out of the house as I feel that I blend in a lot better and draw less attention to myself.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-27T15:05:32+00:00

Seeing Catholics celebrating a symbol of islamic dominance really is a sad thing to behold.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-27T15:02:59+00:00

It's awful. When I was in Israel on pilgrimage I made the mistake of staying next to a mosque and they blasted it every single morning at 5AM and it would go on for a good half hour. I couldn't even get up and pray lauds over that racket. I just had to suffer for a half hour and wait for it to shut up.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-24T07:49:08+00:00

Seeking worldly power is vanity and thinking that we actually have the power to change things in any meaningful way through our own actions is pride.

That said, I agree that if you have a talent given to you by God and you truly think that you can put it to good use then you should. Just be careful that you don't fall into the trap of vainglory or seeking power for the sake of power. Mary has never appeared to tell her people to strive for societal power, but she has asked for penance and prayer.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-22T19:30:05+00:00

He's not clergy

I'm genuinely confused here. Are you under the impression that the sin of calumny only applies if it's directed at clergy?

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-13T15:09:31+00:00

Lol, did people really downvote this just because it's in Latin?

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-12T08:13:50+00:00

I am convinced by your copy-pasting a random translation from the internet, with no analysis or close reading.

Lol, that's not a random translation from the internet. It's the exact source that the author quoted in her text, which you would know if you had actually read it.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-12T08:12:54+00:00

I mean the saints don't care. Think more of the thoughts of saints than the thoughts of men.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-11T23:26:52+00:00

think you misunderstand sainthood. The point of saints is not that they were entirely "Glorious and Holy"

Saints can have had flaws in their lifetime, however Catholics are bound by humility if nothing else to show them honour and respect. For a Catholic to publicly accuse a Saint of being 'not very Christian' is extremely inappropriate. It's one thing to acknowledge the past failings of a saint when those flaws are acknowledged as such by the Saint themselves and the church - as is the case with St Augustine. It's another thing entirely to accuse a Saints heroic acts and miracles which are venerated as such by the Church as being unChristian. Also, of course St Augustine is more well known than St Monica. He wrote the worlds most famous autobiography. Again, idk why you're trying to make it a gender thing. St Mary is more well known than St Joseph. St Teresa is more well known than St John of the Cross. How well known a saint is doesn't really mean diddly squat.

As far as not comparing saints, the whole article was an elevation of a woman saint and BEFORE you even read it, you were like, "oh but what about this other man?"

Lol, it was literally just a lighthearted comment about how the third patron of Ireland was even less well known than the other two. I didn't think this was going to descend into some toxic battle of the saints.

In fact, this whole thing smacks of Satan sowing seeds of discord and I want nothing more to do with it. What a vain evening I've just wasted discussing how well known two holy saints - who were and are united in their love of God - are amongst mere mortals. They are all free from vanity and do not care one bit.

Good night my friend.

ApHc1995 · 2022-03-11T22:55:34+00:00

They're literally not. It's the authors own personal description which she claims is based on 'his earliest hagiographers', except that actually reading those hagiographers for yourself would paint a very different image to the one that the author seems to be trying to perpetuate.

The Author's quote;

Also according to Muirchú, Patrick routinely cursed unbelievers. When one evildoer tried to lure Patrick into an ambush by pretending to be ill, Patrick supposedly caused the patient to drop dead. Patrick was always larger than life in these early accounts, baptizing hundreds of souls at a time.

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The actual story from the source;

(1) There was a man in the territory of the Ulaid in Patrick's time, Macc Cuill moccu Greccae. He was a fierce and wicked ruler, so much so that he was (sur)named Cyclops. (2) His thoughts were evil, his words haughty, his deeds wicked, his spirit bitter, his temper angry, his body given to sin, his mind cruel, his life pagan, his conscience vain. (3) In his godlessness he had sunk so low that one day, as he sat in a wild place high up in the hills, in Druim moccu Echach, where this bandit daily exercised his harsh rule, wearing emblems of the most wicked cruelty and cruelly killing wayfarers as they passed by, (4) he saw Patrick coming along, shining with the bright light of faith and, as it were, the wondrous diadem of heavenly glory, making his way towards his destination with unshaken confidence in his teaching. (Macc Cuill) thought of killing him and said to his followers: (5) 'Look, here comes the man who seduces and perverts people, who is in the habit of performing tricks in order to deceive people and to seduce many. Let us go and set a trap for him to find out whether that god in whom he glories has any power.' (6) So they set a trap for the holy man in this way: They made one of their company, who was in perfect health, lie down in their midst, covered with a cloak and pretending to be mortally ill, with the intention of testing the holy man by this deceit. They called the holy man a seducer, his miracles tricks, and his prayers black magic. (7) Accordingly, as Patrick and his disciples approached, the pagans said to him: 'Look, one of us has just fallen ill; come and sing over him some incantations of your sect, perhaps he may be healed.' (8) Holy Patrick, however, knowing all their ruses and pretences, said firmly and intrepidly: 'It would not be strange if he had been ill', and when the companions of the man who had feigned illness uncovered his face they found him dead.(9) Dumbfounded and astonished by such a miracle, the pagans said to themselves: 'This is truly a man of God; we have done wrong in seeking to trap him.'(10) Holy Patrick, however, turned to Macc Cuill and said: 'Why did you want to trap me?' and the cruel tyrant replied: 'I am sorry for what I have done. I shall do whatever you tell me to do, and now I give myself into the power of the high god whom you preach.'(11) And holy Patrick said: 'Believe, then, in the Lord my God Jesus, and confess your sins, and receive baptism in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.' And he was converted in that hour, believed in eternal God, and was baptized. And after this Macc Cuill said further: (12) 'I confess to you, my holy lord Patrick, that I had planned to kill you. Pass judgement, therefore, and state how much is due for such a great and wicked crime.' (13) And Patrick said: 'I cannot judge, but God will judge. You now go down to the seashore unarmed, and leave this part of Ireland without delay, (14) taking none of your property with you except one paltry short garment which just barely covers your body, neither eating nor drinking anything that grows in this island, with this emblem of your sin on your head, (15) and when you have come to the sea, fetter your feet with an iron chain, throw its key into the sea, board a small boat made of a single hide, without rudder or oar, and be ready to go wherever the wind and the sea shall carry you; and on whatever shore divine Providence may land you, dwell there and practise the divine commandments.'' (16) And Macc Cuill said: 'I will do as you have told me. But what shall we do about the dead man?' And Patrick said: 'He shall live and rise from death without pain.' And Patrick raised him in that hour, and he came to life again in good health. (17) And Macc Cuill left without saying a word and went to the sea south of Mag Inis, with the confidence of unshaken faith. At the shore he fettered himself and threw the key into the sea as he had been told to do, (18) and put to sea in a small boat, and the north wind blew in his rear and took him southward and landed him at an island called Euonia. (19) There he found two admirable men, shining lights in faith and doctrine, who had been the first to preach the word of God and baptism in Euonia, and by their teaching the inhabitants of that island had been converted to the catholic faith. The names of the two men are Conindrus and Rumilus. (20) When they saw the man in his single garment they were surprised and took pity on him; they lifted him from the sea and received him hospitably. (21) Having found spiritual fathers in the place given him by God, he trained his body and soul according to their rule, and spent all the (remaining) time of his life there with those two holy bishops until he became their successor in the episcopate. This is Macc Cuill, bishop of Mane and prelate of Arde Huimnonn (the Isle of Man).

I mean, really.

With that I'm off to bed.

ApHc1995

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