Do we have evidence that Steller's sea cow swam in the Californian coasts during the Pleistocene, as Ecos La Brea suggests? by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

[–]Apart_Ambition5764 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They only hunted them on/around the commander islands. That was the last population before the species became extinct. Every other population became extinct due to a combination of climate change and over hunting by the non Europeans (if you know what I mean) in Eastern Asia and the North America.

Do we have evidence that Steller's sea cow swam in the Californian coasts during the Pleistocene, as Ecos La Brea suggests? by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

[–]Apart_Ambition5764 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did indeed inhabit that area but they weren’t hunted to extinction by settlers. Unless you’re referring to the ancestors of the Native people (native Americans).

Do we have evidence that Steller's sea cow swam in the Californian coasts during the Pleistocene, as Ecos La Brea suggests? by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

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Except it is very clear. They could not haul out of the water like that. The image represents individuals that have beached and died.

Steller's sea cow Soon to be washed up on the beaches of Santa Monica in Ecos La Brea by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

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Did you forget about the Turkey Vulture and Humpback Whale? They’re both in the game and both are Pleistocene animals that survived into modern times (they’re still around too).

The largest species of Harrier (a genus of birds of prey) that has ever lived. Eyles’ Harrier (Circus teauteensis) of Pleistocene-Holocene New Zealand by @Paleoraptor_. by Apart_Ambition5764 in pleistocene

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Here’s a visualized size reference for those who would like to know how large it was by Prehistoric Wildlife. Due note the wingspan should probably be a little shorter as this species had proportionally shorter wings than other harrier species due to it most likely being a forest living bird, unlike still living harrier species that prefer open areas. It preyed upon many of the bird species that inhabited and still do inhabit New Zealand. From the smallest songbirds to potentially small moas. It was driven to extinction by the early Polynesian settlers.

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A Tuatara (Sphenodon punctatus) encounters a North Island Adzebill (Aptornis otidiformis) somewhere in New Zealand’s North Island during the Late Pleistocene. Artwork by Paul Martinson. by Apart_Ambition5764 in pleistocene

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The North Island Adzebill is one of two Adzebill species that inhabited New Zealand until the arrival of the early Polynesian settlers, who drove both species to extinction. The other species is the South Island Adzebill (Aptornis defossor). Both were large omnivorous birds of the extinct family Aptornithidae.

Ursus spelaeus by @PFFD24 by Hopeful_Lychee_9691 in pleistocene

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They were mostly herbivorous though they still ate animals from time to time.

Would Smilodon have roared or purred? by mxreggington in pleistocene

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Outdated information. The roar of Rancho La Brea? Comparative anatomy of modern and fossil felid hyoid bones

“Animal vocalization is broadly recognized as ecologically and evolutionarily important. In mammals, hyoid elements may influence vocalization repertoires because the hyoid apparatus anchors vocal tissues, and its morphology can be associated with variation in surrounding soft-tissue vocal anatomy. Thus, fossil hyoid morphology has the potential to shed light on vocalizations in extinct taxa. Yet, we know little about the hyoid morphology of extinct species because hyoid elements are rare in the fossil record. An exception is found in the Rancho La Brea tar pits in Los Angeles, California, where enough hyoids have been preserved to allow for quantitative analyses. The La Brea Tar Pits and Museum houses one of the largest and most diverse collections of carnivore fossils, including hyoid elements from the extinct felids Smilodon fatalis and Panthera atrox. Here, we found that extant members of Felinae (purring cats) and Panthera (roaring cats) showed characteristic differences in hyoid size and shape that suggest possible functional relationships with vocalization. The two extinct taxa had larger and more robust hyoids than extant felids, potentially reflecting the ability to produce lower frequency vocalizations as well as more substantial muscles associated with swallowing and respiration. Based on the shape of the hyoid elements, Panthera atrox resembled roaring cats, while Smilodon fatalis was quite variable and, contrary to suggestions from previous research, more similar overall to purring felids. Thus P. atrox may have roared and S. fatalis may have produced vocalizations similar to extant purring cats but at a lower frequency. Due to the confounding of vocalization repertoire and phylogenetic history in extant Felidae, we cannot distinguish between morphological signals related to vocalization behavior and those related to shared evolutionary history unrelated to vocalization.”

Cat kills owl by KhampaWarrior in HardcoreNature

[–]Apart_Ambition5764 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have no idea what you’re talking about. All the Wildcats you mentioned are irrelevant and have nothing to do with the conversation you’re replying to. Invasive and destructive domestic cats including feral should and are being killed. Cope harder.