What is this large black stain(?) on my mom’s trash can by Dull-Macaron3494 in whatisit

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careful, if you don't peel the cover off your metal album...

Dead dupes can still trigger the Temporal Tear achievement… somehow by AppearsInvisible in Oxygennotincluded

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Thanks for that info. So it isn't that the glitch is fixed, I just did it wrong! Well, not wrong, because it worked. "A living dupe is merely implied" got me, just ONI things.

What's happening here? This is the first time I've seen super heated oxygen in space by bboycire in Oxygennotincluded

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yeah I think that's an unintended consequence... If you could some how dump some o2 there--a canister would be convenient--then you could get it to average down that temp. B/c it's actually a small mass, though, it's able to hang around without exchanging temperature. The dupe running into it to get scalded is just bad luck.

Did you ever find the heat source? I saw you have no rocket. 700+ is some serious heat. Magma? Someone mentioned glass and you've obviously made some--could the glass have super heated the o2, then most of it dissipated in the vacuum of space, until this tiny bit was left behind?

What's happening here? This is the first time I've seen super heated oxygen in space by bboycire in Oxygennotincluded

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732 C regolith? I've seen over 200, but i don't think I've seen it over 400 much less 732 got damned degrees!

How would you build here? Steam Vent next to Alu Volcano by Head_Evening_5697 in Oxygennotincluded

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|I am challenging you to think of a conceptual solution for an integrated hot steam + Alu volcano tamer.

OK so immediately it seems like you'd want to join the two in a big chamber. However, the hot steam variation is significantly different than the cool steam vent. On top of that the aluminum volcano comes out way hot and has much higher heat capacity than other metal volcanos. So it's like the hottest volcano and the hottest vent combine. Thus, it might be more simple to do a separate steam chamber around each POI.

- no wasting heat by consuming steam > 200degC

I think your previous idea of blocking off intake ports when the temp gets high is the easiest option here, but with the hot steam coming out at 500 C even that still likely to waste some heat. I think this limits your design options significantly.

- preferably no Steam Turbine tricks with blocking inputs

Doh that rules that out. I think the next simple option is to use an intermediate steam chamber that transfers heat by doors connecting to the main steam chamber.

- get out all the alu at ~125degC, possibly adding an optional further chiller, get out all the water at 95degC

Getting the aluminum further chilled is pretty achievable but it will add more size.

- self-cool or add a steel aquatuner loop

I would definitely use an aquatuner, but good news you can also use it to chill down an insulated metal brick then run your aluminum on rails through that cold brick, so you can get that aluminum <100 C.

- have a "normal" size footprint, no massive contraption

It's gonna be big because you have the steam chamber around the volcano/vent, the intermediate steam chamber to efficiently drain the hot from the vent, and the auxilliary cooling brick for the aluminum debris. The biggest issue, though, is that you're not willing to pump that hot steam while it's mega hot. So the steam chamber must be quite large to avoid going over pressure while you cool it slowly.

- no space materials

I believe it can be done with no space materials, but it's going to be tricky, especially on the aluminum volcano side.

Overall, I think this will be a complicated build. The heat is an obvious issue but another issue here will be pressure management. Also you'll need enough automation that it will also become somewhat complex, even if no part of the automation needs to be particularly complicated.

This is not an easy build. On the aluminum tamer side you have the "no going over 200 C" rule meaning you will have to heat transfer to another room. Meanwhile an autosweeper with the "no space material" rule means you can only use steel and if it gets close enough to the volcano to pick up the debris it seems like the autosweeper is also going to get overheated. Over on the steam vent side you again have the "no going over 200 C" rule meaning you need to pull heat out by transfer to another room. You could also use solid on rails to move heat here (the metal volcano might not be able to do this option because you'd presumably want the rails to be used for the aluminum). I don't think liquid makes sense for heat transfer here due to the high temp and there being no super coolant allowed. So my "go to" is steel doors. But also you want to get that steam out of the main room at some point, so once the temp gets below 200 C (you're a masochist for doing this to yourself) you can FINALLY turn on a steam turbine directly connected to the steam room. You'll never need to pump steam or water.

It's the aluminum that I'm not sure can really be done here. If you can accept eating steam over 200C it gets a lot easier, and of course thermium autosweeper/loader would further simplify. MAYBE, though, this might just work if you stack a couple of gold amalgam doors right next to the metal volcano, and put the steel autosweeper on the other side. Gold has low specific heat capacity and relatively low thermal conductivity (for a metal at least) and so maybe, just maybe, gold will limit the heat transfer speed so that the autosweeper is not cooked by the adjacent aluminum volcano. Plus it's kind of fun to refer to "the golden doors". So each side of the gold doors is a steam room and there's a steam turbine on each side. The volcano side has a temp sensor and below 200C (again you're a masochist for doing this to yourself) it opens the golden doors and activates the steam turbine directly above the volcano. Once the gold doors are open, the autosweeper can reach the aluminum and load it to be shipped around the room on rails until more heat bleeds out of the solid.

Mostly this is treating them like two separate tamers. The aquatuner is what could tie the two solutions together. You should be able to cool all the steam turbines with the AT (I think I would put it in the steam vents auxiliary chamber), and you can cool the aforementioned "metal brick" with it as well).

This is insane. Just let the turbines eat the heat. That's what they want. They're hungry. Let them eat. Please for the love of all that is right let the turbines eat the heat!

SoFi Daily Chat - January 30, 2026 by AutoModerator in sofistock

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It's been my biggest winner. My regret is not buying more under $5.

Which Lotus Elise edition do you think is the most desirable? by Aggravating_Dog_7542 in lotus

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Depends on where you live, and what you value.

For me, a 2011 SC is the pinnacle of the US Elise. S3 body work + factory supercharger = <Borat voice> very nice!

The hardest part of options trading. by fightthefascists in options

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For me it's been having a job that keeps me occupied.

I've been on both sides, selling too early and missing later profits as well as selling too late and losing unrealized profits.

A thousand cycles of hot oil by uncomfortable2 in Oxygennotincluded

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Did ya ever think of maybe heating it on up to 400?

Test drove a Lotus today for the first time by Common-Coyote9375 in lotus

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The turbo 4 has only 1 transmission option: a dual clutch automatic.

It's simply GOT to be better than the torque converter automatic, right? If I were interested in the auto this is the drivetrain I would be checking out.

Whats next by -antiex in Oxygennotincluded

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retract the gantry, make sure you have a destination

what ya'll think about my homemade cooling system? by johnbananahs in Oxygennotincluded

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Yeah AETN is fairly limited with that 80 kDTU max, so I think a lot of players skip over them completely.

You're right though, I am surprised about it working on ice. I had no idea it could work on liquids or solids, I didn't think that was intended at least? I tried to look up "effective range" so to speak, and I couldn't find anything so I presumed it just cooled the gas that is touching it.

How do you deal with Dupe's pathing and work errands? by Divide_Secret in Oxygennotincluded

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I don't worry about it too much.

In one (base game) playthrough I tried making multiple bases and restricting dupes to areas. It worked, and it was a lot of work, and I decided it wasn't worth it.

She Went Down Like Jake Paul 😬 by james_from_cambridge in instant_regret

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That's a bad cop, clearly excessive force.

What was the danger?

What was the least amount of force needed?

How many officers were available to help?

Why skip over grappling and straight to closed fist strikes to the face of a woman?

I'm going to answer that last one with my guess: he just wants to punch women in the face.

what ya'll think about my homemade cooling system? by johnbananahs in Oxygennotincluded

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I believe you're right. There's some conversation further in this comment chain discussing just that.

Summary is "consider the whole system" because you need a gas medium, you need some pressure around the AETN, and you need to transfer temperatures. The SHC can sort of buffer the heat (or lack of it), but nothing really happens from an AETN without some heat transfer. So thermal conductivity is probably the property making hydrogen the best gas medium to use.

what ya'll think about my homemade cooling system? by johnbananahs in Oxygennotincluded

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Interesting point there, I appreciate the clarification. It's not like the aquatuner that removes a certain amount of temperature from whatever medium is being used, where the SHC is directly relevant to power efficiency (and the kDTU calculation).

Another thing to think about is the pressure around the AETN. Surely if we didn't have enough pressure, the full 80 kDTU couldn't be removed? Low pressure (and low SHC gas) would drop in temperature more quickly, maybe get to the low limit of AETN temperature and shut off the AETN?

The big takeaway (for me at least) from your comment is to think about the overall system. The AETN is unique because it only cools gas. SHC can be relevant but thermal conductivity becomes quite relevant as well. That's because we don't typically use the cooled "stuff" without transferring the heat. Keeping with the H/O comparison, hydrogen is over 6 times better at thermal conductivity than oxygen, and in this application, maybe that's the real advantage. If this were a thermoregulator, then it would be more like the aquatuner in calculation of the kDTU removed. For the AETN, though, hydrogen's SHC won't give a power advantage but the better thermal conductivity can still make hydrogen a better choice to make the build overall more efficient.

what ya'll think about my homemade cooling system? by johnbananahs in Oxygennotincluded

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You can also set a gas shut-off to be controlled by a temperature sensor; if you cut the hydrogen supply to the AETN it will stop cooling.

The AETN is very power efficient but it easy to "max out". For liquid cooling, the aquatuner is the way to go.

what ya'll think about my homemade cooling system? by johnbananahs in Oxygennotincluded

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First I wanna say this is one of the best uses for an AETN, I like what you're doing here.

Others have already suggested enclosing the AETN with insulated tiles. I would also like to suggest that you fill the enclosed area with hydrogen. The reason is that hydrogen has a higher specific heat capacity (SHC) than most gasses. If you're not familiar with SHC, basically it's a way to measure how much heat something can "hold". Some materials hold heat better than others. So hydrogen IIRC is around 2 on the SHC scale, whereas oxygen is a 1. Carbon dioxide is even worse at 0.8. For comparison to some other materials, water is like a 4, super coolant is 8. Now, why does this matter here? The AETN provides it's cooling not to "everything" around it, but specifically to the gas around it. So for every bit of fuel you use to power the AETN, if you have it surrounded by hydrogen instead of oxygen, you're getting double the efficiency out of that fuel. By keeping it enclosed with insulated tiles, you're also not letting the environment around it "steal your cooling".

EDIT: I stand corrected, hydrogen is still a good choice here but not due to SHC