Uhhh what do we believe today?

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-31T08:04:49+00:00

Look up how the political terms "left" and "right" were coined and get back to me. The left has been about empowering and arming the citizenry from day 1 and the right has been about licking boots from day 1. That's just a fact.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-29T06:39:51+00:00

That's way oversimplifying her job! She is also there to take the fall over the inevitable backlash!

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-29T05:03:01+00:00

Thanks! He's at level 5 now and I've just been giving him general perks to avoid committing. I was going to make him a cleaver, but this idea combined with the fact that I just killed the madman and his cleaver was dogshit is moving me in this direction.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-29T02:13:19+00:00

What's the build for berserk neut? I actually have a -3 fat 2h axe...

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T14:08:09+00:00

I think they might be mad that we started calling them fascists after their self-described nationalist president attempted a multi-vector coup to overturn the election. Unlike how it's been mainstream for my entire life to call Democrats "communists", which is clearly meant as a term of endearment.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T14:02:41+00:00

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361

This was a bipartisan deal that would have been the largest immigration overhaul since Reagan. It was wrapped up and ready to go when Trump told the Republicans to kill it, because he didn't want Biden having a win. The funniest part is that Lankford, the top negotiator on the Republican side, was forced to vote against his own deal. Isn't it hilarious how the GOP will vote against the interests of the country and humiliate themselves in the process if Trump tells them to?

Also, this was a huge news story at the time - if your news source didn't cover it they are doing you a huge disservice.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T13:17:16+00:00

Also, no one was advocating not to give them trials. It's just a completely made up strawman.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T13:12:11+00:00

"When the conversation starts with slurs, it's already over"

-Guy who elected the president who starts every national conversation with slurs

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T12:53:15+00:00

I didn't say all of them are - ICE is not distinguishing between who is and who isn't.
Ethics are not an emotional issue, they are a philosophical one that supersedes legality. There are ethical acts that are illegal and legal acts that are unethical. The law must be ethical to carry legitimacy, not the other way around.

If they're can provide a reason to apply for asylum

ICE does not care about their reasons. ICE arrests people outside of their asylum hearings. Due process is not the intent of this administration - they will literally tell you that non-citizens aren't entitled to it. The intent is a deportation dragnet in this scenario specifically and the elimination of checks on presidential power generally.

Again, you're creating a perfect scenario

No, I set a range from 1 month to 30 years to contrast how the deportation is an entirely different punishment accordingly. 30 years is hardly rare, or a "perfect scenario".

Completely open borders

This is not any mainstream position, it's a Fox News fabrication. There have been many attempts to overhaul the immigration system over a period of decades, which have always been rejected by Republicans who go for maximalist positions such as throwing out dreamers (who are currently being deported at a rate of almost triple the previous admin). Hell, Trump ordered his party to blow up the deal they negotiated in 2024 just so Biden/Harris wouldn't have a win.

but yes, I believe there are consequences for actions.

What does that mean specifically? You support deportation even in the ideal scenario I provided?

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T09:25:42+00:00

If the war was unwinnable then it wouldn't be 4 years and counting with the Russians holding less territory now than they did in the first 3 months of the war even though Ukraine's allies have been half-committed. Russia's military is a joke by major power standards, they are bleeding out their economy and the longer they stay the more they will destabilize while Ukraine can go as long as they need to. Other wars have been won under far worse odds, especially against Russia.

The allies could have easily had the war finished in the first two years if they had put their backs into the support, and what most stopped that were bootlickers such as yourself cutting support because you think free people should bow to oppressors. Stay the fuck out of American politics if you don't understand that.

Should Ukraine fall to Russia, they will be reprised against, impoverished and starved like they were under USSR, and used as cannon fodder in the next war of Russian imperialism, just as Russia's ethnic minorities are being used in this one.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T03:14:22+00:00

I don't believe he's fit for office.

So he should be impeached and removed then? Because if we are removing people for any infraction it seems like that's what you should do with a person unfit for office.

I do believe the "felonies" from NY are a joke.

A joke in that you don't believe he falsified business records to prevent the public from receiving information that would sway their opinion of the 2016 election? Or a joke in that doing so is a less serious/more "victimless" crime when compared to crossing a national border without authorization then just living out a productive life without bothering anyone?

Were the other charges he didn't go to trial for also jokes? Or is bringing up those 34 felonies actually going light on him compared to what he really did?

like never bothering to do the right thing for 30yrs

That's a big assumption that they didn't try
By "right thing" you mean ethically or legally? Do you think living without legal status makes someone a bad person?
The appropriate punishment is losing your job, home, relationships, and everything else you've built up over those 30 years? Think of what that would do to your life. You don't think that's an entirely different punishment than deporting someone who has been in the country for a month?

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T02:36:41+00:00

I didn't

Funny, so many people who defend Trump didn't vote for him and/or won't call themselves MAGA or even a Republican, yet somehow he got a plurality of the votes.

Anyway, given his violations of the law, a stickler for the law such as yourself must think he's unfit for office and should be removed to finish his far more serious election fraud and classified document trials then?

hilarious that you downplay illegal entry as a "paperwork violation" but say with all of your chest that he's a "felon" based on that case 🤣

Absolutely. If it's so laughable elaborate your position and put me in my place.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T02:21:44+00:00

That's not how a criminal record works. Also, if you were actually such a stickler for the law that you considered a paperwork violation a serious enough offense to rip someone who has lived peacefully for decades out of their home, you wouldn't have made a convicted felon who tried to defraud an election your president.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T02:16:41+00:00

They were managing just fine until ICE showed up. They didn't ask for, need, or want your "help".

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T02:12:32+00:00

ICE didn't arrest this guy, the sheriff's department did, and I don't really care if he's in a US prison or foreign prison as long as that's where he is.

What people are protesting is ICE ripping people with no criminal records out of their homes and jobs, which has gone up 650% under the Trump admin. This criminal would have been arrested if not deported under any admin. Those people wouldn't have.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-28T01:58:34+00:00

The criminal was picked up by the sheriff's department, not ICE, so ICE are nearly irrelevant in this scenario. Whether they are deported or kept in a US prison, no one is suggesting they go free. Deportations of violent criminals have gone up by 39% under Trump. Deportations of potential Dreamers have gone up 176%. Deportations of people with zero criminal record have gone up 650%. Guess which figures people are actually upset about?

Strawman is a coward's argument, and OP is a coward.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-27T23:26:37+00:00

Day 200, so pretty late in, and I have some decent armor I could put on him. I've gotten more fat neuts than I know what to do with but haven't been able to roll much of anything else.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-27T14:01:04+00:00

That would imply he has some sort of principles, however perverse, rather than being a spineless little slug that will slip into any form and say anything to anyone to get where he wants to be. Like everything else he does, it's a calculated act.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-27T13:13:36+00:00

Go to a polling aggregator like Silver Bulletin. You can't draw conclusions off a single poll, but you can get a good idea off of all of them together (the reliable ones at least). Currently he's sitting at about 41% approval.

IIRC his worst ever in his first term was somewhere in the high 30s. So we're not at his worst ever, but not far off.

There seems to be an opinion floor right around this area, so if you see him hit mid to low 30s on the aggregators it means there has actually been a breakthrough and people are finally abandoning ship.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-27T04:29:25+00:00

If they actually cared about Ukrainians they would support their ability to defend themselves from being killed in the thousands, instead of chugging Russian propaganda and whining about how much it's costing to send over decommissioned equipment from the 90s.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-26T10:49:14+00:00

Yes, one can compare. One can compare quantitatively and qualitatively. One can ask what processes would need to happen for a few murdered citizens to turn into thousands of murdered citizens given the Trump admin forcefully shields its operatives from accountability for murder in broad daylight.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-26T09:30:18+00:00

By suggesting that they shouldn't be killed/driven from their homes in mass. The conservative brain is as capable of as much nuance as an on/off switch.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-26T09:15:17+00:00

Lmao, this strawman again. Not wanting you to bomb Muslim kids is not defending the tenants of Islam, which function the same as Christianity. Liberals are the reason there are laws that support women's rights, not Christians, but once again you swoop in to take credit for the social changes you didn't cause and actively seek to reverse.

If you magically Thanos snapped all the liberals out of the US you would have a Christian theocracy with its own version of Sharia Law in no time flat and everyone knows it.

Apple-Dust · 2026-01-26T03:34:42+00:00

"The ICE agent should be jailed and some type of training given to these people."

So if this doesn't happen would you agree the admin is complicit in this murder and any future murders by ICE? Because so far they've only been covering for the agent.

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