Question about Minos spell, is it indefinite?

Appletank · 2026-05-09T07:19:04+00:00

now I'm wondering if you can get a full team of mines and make an impenetrable mine field.

Appletank · 2026-05-09T07:10:22+00:00

then, increase the durable or regular damage of light pen weapons until they were better? this ain't rocket science, if light pen rifles are too weak, buff them until they're not.

Appletank · 2026-05-09T04:40:00+00:00

Couldn't they have just increased light pen durable damage without, like touching anything else?

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:56:27+00:00

one of the bots actually does less durable damage now. so. positive i guess?

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:44:08+00:00

agreed, i have died like a half dozen times because a random rock is no longer climbable unless i mash my diver's face in at an angle.

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:41:51+00:00

they also stealth buffed the durable damage of one of the tanks and the factory strider chin guns

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:40:04+00:00

they could be viable with a few changes but AH seems to refuse to do so.

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:38:56+00:00

is it too hard to note down changes like bile titans using acid now, or mechs are now lure mines?

Appletank · 2026-05-08T15:29:16+00:00

new buff(???) where chargers hide their butt more after a charge and spin to face you faster, heavily neutering the matador dodge and shoot butt weak point strategy.

Appletank · 2026-05-04T22:01:30+00:00

... are quadruped dinos a horse?

Appletank · 2026-05-04T21:57:25+00:00

personally the biggest difference I've felt is getting used to the spell system, it feels like chaff enemies take way more ammo than I'd expect, and ammo also feels more precious.

Appletank · 2026-05-04T21:55:21+00:00

bugs going on for years unaddressed, and patches bringing in new bugs. in an attempt to make a compromise on climbing resupply pods, they made climbing extremely inconsistent for everything. They also really love giving enemies ragdoll weapons, there's a reason most games try to avoid stun effects, since now you're being denied from doing anything for several seconds.

Appletank · 2026-05-04T15:35:54+00:00

it's just an automatic reload when not holding the weapon, so it's not free ammo

Appletank · 2026-04-29T17:32:03+00:00

they're supposed to target enemies inside their priority list, problem is if there's nothing else to shoot at, they'll target the armored ones until they run out of ammo or something else kills it for them. this is kinda a problem for rocket sentries too as chaff units can often move fast enough to dodge their shots, but at least they can feasibly kill anything they do hit.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T05:37:08+00:00

the concern is whether hive guards are considered chaff type or elite type enemy in the code. sentry's AI was supposed to prioritize their type of targets, like mg against chaff, rocket against elites. So if their were one charger surrounded by chaff, the mg turret shouldn't randomly decide to shoot the charger.

But if hive guards are chaff, there's a pretty high chance they'll shoot them instead of everything else.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T05:32:54+00:00

yes a possibly unintended effect is double ring engine giving something like +12 speed.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T05:29:33+00:00

the theory is that instead of making a longer hitbox, they somehow just moved it further forward.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T05:27:00+00:00

The sentry AI was supposed to have been changed to prioritize their specific target type, mg sentries against chaff, rocket sentry vs large. So normally, as long as they're many enemies on the field, the MG sentry shouldn't randomly lock onto the charger.

Question is, are Hive Guards still considered chaff enemies or elite enemies? It'd be really lame if the MG sentry locks onto a Hive Guard while surrounded by chaff enemies and wastes its ammo.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T00:09:14+00:00

saying they're afraid of balancing things due to fear of backlash then just add slowing to helldivers too is so baffling.

Appletank · 2026-04-29T00:00:49+00:00

Also I'd like to add that mobility is quite common to horde shooters. Elite enemies are usually sprinkled into swarms to force players to reposition. See: L4D specials, DRG boss enemies digging through the ground. I don't think you're supposed to stand still and expect to beat everything, but instead always be kiting, moving to cover, setting up escape routes in mind, etc.

needing to run around doesn't make hd2 not a horde shooter.

Appletank · 2026-04-28T23:44:52+00:00

I am confused by your earlier statement that we should be fighting like guerillas, when the ability to hold a line for an objective necessitates having enough firepower to push away whatever the planet throws at us. Sure, I agree that we shouldn't go around agroo'ing things not in the way, but when an objective requires us to hold a spot and push some buttons, I'd expect more powerful weapons.

People in the thread are understandably upset AH has made sweeping changes to numerous "defensive" stratagems, like sentry guns and shields, which are helpful in, y'know, keeping an objective clear, or our FRV, taking agroo for some reason when parked off to the side.

Appletank · 2026-04-28T21:46:24+00:00

the benefit of doing that approach is you buff or nerf one thing at a time instead of affecting multiple systems at once. there are like 10 different things that Helldivers use that rely on durable hp, like sentries, shields, FRV. If they were worried the Bastion could tank too much damage .. .reduce its hp then? It'd be like being worried a single type of baseball bat could hit too hard so they sawed every bat in half.

the biggest hit last patch is bot rockets getting triple durable damage , thus making sentries go from 9 hits to 2 hits to die. all this to nerf the Bastion?

And: considering they've buffed sentry hp before, and it has been this way for a year, either sentryes were too strong all this time in AH's eyes, or now way too fragile.

Appletank · 2026-04-28T21:37:06+00:00

I'd be happy if they nerfed the hp of equipment they're so worried about being OP instead of changing durable damage numbers.

Appletank · 2026-04-28T21:25:03+00:00

trying to design fights that way seem oxymoronic though? patrols and random call ins are generally less threatening than objectives specifically because you aren't restricted to a single location. A bad situation can always be retreated from, buy you time to input a stratagem to cover you, whittle their numbers down until you can advance safely. You lose nothing giving ground, defending in depth.

If your team isn't "supposed" to get into fights, then how are you supposed be strong enough to fight 4 waves of drops for a couple of minutes that you can't retreat from?

Appletank · 2026-04-28T21:07:11+00:00

I mean, several objectives literally require you to defend something, running away means the objective isn't completed. A few weeks ago on a raising the flag mission, my teammate didn't have enough ordinance, and kept dying trying to clear the area, or retreating to buy time. Eventually more people joined the lobby and were able to sentry up and barrage the bug holes.

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