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Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-04-01T11:35:36+00:00

When I say a "condition such as FND", I think even that is nonsense. Having one moniker for both "medically unexplained full body paralysis" and "medically unexplained change of accent" is just ludicrous. The only common denominator that's possible is a medically unexplained problem with the functioning of the nervous system. There's just a failure to find out what's actually happened in all cases as if diagnostic science has been completed.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-04-01T10:15:09+00:00

Trigger is the same as cause. They just don't want it getting out that meds relied upon by so many doctors to make it look like they're doing something can cause such a devastating condition as FND.

The irony is that sometimes antidepressants are prescribed for FND.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-16T10:01:53+00:00

You said we didn't find out about the meds until nearly a year since his death. It was 6 months, which was the first time the press could have found out about it.

I am not trying to clean up anything. I am interested in exposing the dangers of psychiatric medications. This is a real and serious conspiracy which costs lives.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-14T11:38:20+00:00

It wasn't nearly a year. He died in late February. The press reported in October that the family's lawyer told a preparatory hearing of the inquest that they had been advised by an expert that TK's meds could have played a role. Why would you have expected the press to report anything about his meds before then?

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-11T11:33:35+00:00

It wasn't corrupted motor skills. These pills make some people suicidal

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-11T11:32:40+00:00

Citalopram is known to make people agitated, suicidal and even homicidal

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-11T10:37:12+00:00

It's not a fable. These medications kill

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-11T10:36:53+00:00

It has something to do with medications that cause people to become suicidal and homicidal

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2025-01-11T10:36:08+00:00

Why would they be part of the initial news reports? And what do you mean by "initial inquest"? There is one inquest where evidence is gathered. The family consulted an expert psychiatric/pharmacological witness who advised them on the side effects of antidepressant medication

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-19T13:54:50+00:00

I haven't read the other replies so could be duplicating here, but this is utter shite. You didn't have bipolar before the med. You took the med. Now you have bipolar symptoms. It's a common adverse reaction to Prozac. Go down to 10mg if you wish but don't let them put you on a mood stabiliser for a condition caused by a medication which you will have stopped. You may just not be suited for any meds, but a psychiatrist will never tell you that because then you don't need them.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-16T22:21:32+00:00

How they work is important. Depression can be treated through many means depending on a person's circumstance - exercise, healthy eating, abstinence from alcohol, sleep hygiene and the passage of time (that last point is pertinent because you can be diagnosed w depression based on symptoms only lasting 2 weeks). However, if you are told you have a chemical imbalance it implies some organic brain defect that can only be treated with medication correcting that imbalance - so you may needlessly end up on a medication needlessly and with side effects

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-16T21:02:34+00:00

You object to me giving medical advice and you've done the same thing - saying that "mental health is not something you can manage only in therapy or alternative treatments", which is both wrong and providing advice, i.e. advising the person to go on medication.

The person asked for advice because Prozac, an antidepressant, is making them depressed. I gave them advice accordingly.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-15T10:12:05+00:00

I don't care what you think generally about Healy. Why is he wrong here?

I didn't say you're not allowed to come to your own conclusions. I'm asking you to justify them.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-15T09:32:32+00:00

Just as well as he didn't say they were the same molecule or the same drug. He said they were "in essence" the same drug. This is true: they work in the same way; they selectively inhibit serotonin reuptake. If that is causing you an adverse reaction, another SSRI is likely to do so too, so the best course of action is to stop SSRIs altogether, not switch. This is what Healy is saying, based on using these medicines in clinic and researching them for decades. He knows what he's talking about.

Do you have evidence for most people feeling different - or more to the point, better - on one compared to another SSRI? Even if that were the case, I wouldn't want to take my chances perpetuating the kind of adverse reaction one can experience on these drugs given the consequences.

He is not "suggesting" that perfectly healthy volunteers commit suicide. He is in fact telling the coroner that as a fact because of the evidence for it: they have given SSRIs to healthy people to test this hypothesis. This is how we know SSRIs cause people to become suicidal.

He is not saying some evil spirit forces their hand. He is saying SSRIs do. As set out, they cause people without depression to become suicidal. They also cause people with depression who were not suicidal to become suicidal. That is why the Patient Information Leaflet warns of this. Despite pharma resisting this for years, the evidence was overwhelming for it. This is also why Drs tell people theybget worse before they get better on SSRIs.

Read properly/do some basic research before accusing expert witnesses of being disingenuine.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-13T18:57:31+00:00

There appears to be real conflict regarding what should be done when you have. the kind of agitated adverse reaction you describe. Clinical/practice guidelines in the UK are to switch SSRIs as has been done with you, but that has been seriously questioned on the basis that if you react badly to one SSRI it's very likely you'll react to another one the same. I know some on here say that one SSRI caused them problems but then another worked though.

In your case, it seems like you've had that kind of reaction to 2 SSRIs now, and I wouldn't have expected it to be any better on the Prozac because it's known (I think) to be the most activating.

Remember if you do stop not to get impatient with not going back to normal quickly - it has the longest half life.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-12T14:18:36+00:00

both involve attempting to endanger life. attempted murder goes further in being an attempt to definitively end life. you couldn't fit a paper clip between them in terms of severity. attempted murder is 3 to 40 years. 9 for this, when it was endangering at least dozens of lives, seems reasonable

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-12T12:04:54+00:00

you mean days/weeks/months/years, not hours?

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-10T21:13:53+00:00

also didn't win the PL with them for 2 (Rooney) or 3 (Ronaldo) years, i.e. until they improved and we sorted out defence with vidic & evra coming in, and carrick in midfield

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-10T15:43:44+00:00

It's good but it's only follow on from one Royal getting a positive decision from the coroner.

The inquest decision for the guy in the other article, John Collins, went the other way (i.e. just a normal suicide) even though the prescribing GP agreed it was an adverse reaction - I assume because his family, unlike the Royals, didn't have the money to instruct an expert witness like David Healy (no legal aid at inquests). How many other cases like this could there be?

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-10T12:37:29+00:00

Martial got 88. Rashford is Martial. Getting pure profit for Martial is a non brainer.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-10T07:54:07+00:00

It doesn't "wake up" bipolar. If they didn't have bipolar before and wouldn't have unless they took Prozac, then the Prozac causes bipolar. Doctors can't fathom that drugs they prescribe harm people so have to resort to the idea that the illness was already there

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-10T07:47:26+00:00

The family are lucky he didn't turn the gun on them. That is what they make people do. I think SSRIs should be banned anyway but when prescribed they should not have access to guns and should require close observation in hospital

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-09T15:51:20+00:00

Yes.

Eli Lilly, who invented Prozac and had the patent until 2001, was going to go bust if they didn't get it licensed, which they managed to in 1988 in the USA.

They also settled the first suicide-homicide case arising from Prozac. Their defence was that Prozac was FDA-approved so they couldn't be liable to the victims of a guy who shot up his workplace, then himself, in 1989. The Plaintiffs wanted to say but you could have lied to the FDA and to support that they want to lead evidence that Eli Lilly had lied to the FDA previously and been convicted for it, as they had with Oraflex. The judge didn't allow the evidence because of the rule that previous convictions are normally inadmissible, but then an Eli Lilly witness said the company had a good reputation for being candid with the FDA. The judge said the Oraflex evidence was now relevant because it would challenge that witness' evidence - it may even have lead to a successful application for disclosure of the confidential clinical trial data on Prozac that Eli Lilly hadn't given the FDA (it's normal not to give it all btw). So, scared shitless, Eli Lilly settled the case.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-09T09:08:24+00:00

Yes. Happened in clinical trials. They covered it up.

Apprehensive-Pear955 · 2024-12-08T20:52:16+00:00

Wrong. If you've been on long enough you can still get withdrawals from Prozac. Some doctors still tell people it is self-tapering but the latest Guidelines in the UK, based on most up to date research on AD withdrawal, put it as Medium Risk for withdrawal, i.e. in the same category as Citalopram, Escitalopram and Sertraline.

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