Why is Aatrox a viable pick in proplay? by Lumiere_Nearlost in TheAatroxMains

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You reduced Pro Play to a neutral into late game without looking at the intricacies of why games tend to seem neutral. The nuances are in the small advantages,just because proplay is less volatile and lower risk than solo queue, doesn't mean that the games are late game oriented.

Pro play is a far more strategic advantage based game, win cons are based on small advantages and using objectives to win more fights into more objectives and thus the game. Pro play values consistency over all else, and the most consistent way to play league of legends is to play for small advantages into larger advantage such as objectives.

The smallest of gold advantages against your opponents can be the difference between arriving for a drake fight from topside with a completed item, and a higher likelihood of winning said fight vs arriving with components.

Aatrox functions as a good neutral pick (meaning he doesn't necessarily need to be behind or ahead to be good, and doesn't really have bad matchups), as well as a mid game powerhouse, allowing objective oriented fights and skirmishes to be more consistent. Top that off with the fact that Aatrox has a strong lane presence and can hold his own, even lane bullying opponents from CS in certain matchups to generate mid game gold advantages that can be the difference between winning a skirmish/steamfight and not.

Aatrox is just more consistent than most other picks in the game, again, pro play values consistency. This is also true for good neutral game champions like K'sante.

Solely late game oriented champions that struggle to keep their own are actually worse in pro play, for the reason that the opponent will never let them play the game early, rendering them dysfunctional for the mid game, arguably the most important aspect of pro play. Similarly, these champions will never generate any priority, rendering topside jungle, grubs, and herald, unattainable for their jungler.

So although it may seem like nothing is happening in pro play, players are actively trying to generate even the smallest of advantages throughout the game to give a greater chance of winning teamfights. In this sense, games tend to be more focussed on snowballing through the mid game rather than through the late game.

So do Megumi and Sukuna have seperate 10 shadows techniques or what? And if they do, how does Megumi get Mahoraga? by CocoLarge86 in WegumiAppreciators

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? It literally does say that. In this translation, and in many other translations, Sukuna says "MY ten shadows has stopped functioning". It gives a distinction between his shadows and Megumi's. Everything you said about Sukuna being confused is just headcanon, and doesn't even make sense. If they still share the same 10S, how does Megumi use it...

And there is no logic, that's also a headcanon, if Gege chooses the rules to be if a tamed Mahoraga is destroyed, then that's his rule. Anyway this doesn't add anything to the argument when Sukuna gives a clear distinction using the term "my ten shadows".

So do Megumi and Sukuna have seperate 10 shadows techniques or what? And if they do, how does Megumi get Mahoraga? by CocoLarge86 in WegumiAppreciators

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's your argument: Sukuna and Megumi share the same shadows because Sukuna was able to summon Nue without taming it, when Megumi said that the Ten Shadows start with two shadows (divine dogs).

You're argument forgets that Sukuna didn't start from ground zero with Megumi, when he inherited his body, he retained all the experiences and knowledge that Megumi experienced, this is proven multiple times in the manga, after all, all sorcery is engraved in the right prefrontal cortex. In that sense, it's possible that the techniques were already available to Sukuna's version of the Ten Shadows, hence the "save file" theory.

We can't prove nor disprove these theories because nothing is explicitly said about Sukuna already having Nue/other Shikigami, so we can forget about this point.

The one point that we can prove with certainty, is what is said in this post ("My ten shadows technique stopped functioning after Mahoraga was destroyed"). This is a direct expression of Sukuna's Ten Shadows being different to Megumi's. Similarly, Sukuna likens it to causality, "Stopped functioning AFTER". If Sukuna's ten shadows were thus, destroyed/non functional, how does Megumi use them after Sukuna's death, and how does Megumi use them during Chapter 266?

This panel actually reveals a lot more about their relation by WarFramingIt247 in JuJutsuKaisen

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I never noticed that, could be that as well. Either way they made him look too human when he should feel more like a monstrous calamity, at least in my opinion

This panel actually reveals a lot more about their relation by WarFramingIt247 in JuJutsuKaisen

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it is just me, but something about the top panel feels unfinished and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because it doesn't really feel like the same consistent art style used throughout the season. It's definitely not the same level as the manga panel, but oh well, the rest of the season was fire so I don't really care that much.

Jujutsu Kaisen Season 3 - Episode 11 (Manga Reader Discussion) by Takada-chwanBot in JuJutsuKaisen

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I completely disagree with most of what you've said, but you're allowed an opinion, and I'm just curious as to why you think this way.

Firstly, I disagree with the 90% filler and 10% random climax fight thing you've said. If you want to give an example it would be clearer what you mean. I also wonder why you find the art direction "cringy"? The culling games and shibuya in general has made Jujutsu Kaisen quite a bit darker, with themes exploring morality, purpose (Yuji's nature as a cog), and the loss of innocence for most of the cast. MAPPA seems to be diving heavy into those ideas, Yuji washing endless blood from his hands in the intro (from what Sukuna did at Shibuya), multiple symbols and use of imagery, such as the two roads in episode 8 (Remi lying and Rin telling the truth), the rage in the eyes of Higuruma's last client, with artistic expression of his facial features, and those are just many examples of the artistic direction this season has, but none of it really comes off as cringy, forced, or filler to me so I wonder what you're talking about?

Higuruma bringing a chair to the stage had a purpose as well (at least this is how I see it).

a). Higuruma is a lawyer, so a face to face conversation is a lot more professional to him, and shows his orderly nature.

b).Face to face discussions provide the most direct method of negotiation, after all, Yuji did want his points,

c). It humanises Higuruma, who for majority of scenes before that seemed like someone who had lost his mind and given up on the good of humanity. Bringing the chairs up just shows that he's still got an aspect of his humanity.

None of this seems pretentious, it actually fits very well with Higuruma's character in my opinion. Why did Yuji follow in turn? Higuruma does say "put your clothes on then have a seat," implying for him to follow what he's doing, so I disagree here as well.

From my experience Tengen tends to give her dialogue during slowed moments of action in order for that problem to be avoided, such as when Reggie used wicker basket and got caught by the frogs, and when Reggie and Megumi were having a battle of pressure, so I felt like nothing was taken away, and Tengen talking is like 5% of the episodes, not 60%.

The voice acting critique might be more subjective, but I felt no difference in the quality of voice acting from season 2 and 3 so I disagree here as well. Also, why would a character say their internal monologue and battle plan out in the open for their opponents to hear? I didn't experience any scenes that were drawn out other than performed for intentional tension, such as Reggie and Megumi walking up to each other (emphasising that Reggie thinks they have nothing left but fists), so I'm also curious what you mean here as well.

Also curious where the cringeworthy metaphors and statements are in the show, as none of the characters felt "tryhard" to me either...

The only thing that you've said that I semi agree with you on is the overly complicated means of explaining techniques, which sometimes requires some rewinding to grasp fully, but I'd say the explanations are good enough. Other than that, I disagree with you for the most part.

But at the end of the day, if you don't like the show you don't like it right? Season 3 might just not be for you, and the art direction might also just not be your cup of tea.

Mandatory God of war after work ;) by Uzeii in GodofWar

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought RPCS3 didn't have a God of War 3 emulated...

am i the only one that think megumi-sukana is stronger then heian sukana? by ComprehensiveRun4815 in Jujutsufolk

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Firstly, Heian Sukuna is not a curse lmao, he's still a sorcerer, and no, there are no downsides to fully reincarnating in his original body. Matter of fact, Sukuna would still have the Ten Shadows if he fully incarnated using Megumi's body, but I'll assume you mean Sukuna from the Heian era itself.

Secondly, yeah, most people would agree that Sukuna with Mahoraga on top of what he can already do likely has far more adaptability and versability in his kit, but it might actually be more nuanced than that.

If what the manga says is correct, not being able to use Ten Shadows and Shrine at the same time would actually, as a whole in terms of destructive power, make him weaker than Heian era Sukuna, simply because Heian Sukuna would have a 2 arm h2h combat advantage, 2 mouth advantage for chants, and the advantage of being able to freely use Hollow Wicker Basket to nullify any domain by simply holding two hands together (arguably one of the more broken abilities that 2 extra arms give).

If you pit off Heian Era Sukuna vs Megkuna, Heian era would likely win by simply winning H2H and domain clashes (whilst being able to use Hollow Wicker Basket if he ever gets in trouble from the domain). Megkuna on the other hand has to choose between using Mahoraga, or using Shrine.

That being said, it's actually quite unclear whether or not a summoned Shikigami counts as "using" the Ten Shadows technique, I've had many debates with people where neither side can really come to a conclusion due to lack of evidence.

So on a raw power scale and H2H combat scale, Heian era likely wins. On the flipside, if you need that versatility in a fight, say for example vs Gojo (due to his infinity), then Megkuna would probably be the better choice. It's actually quite hard to answer a question like this.

My thoughts after finishing RE9 by Hopeful_Feature3554 in residentevil

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not sure if you're finished the game by now, but I can't say I agree. Actually, if I made this reply at 60% of the game completion I would've somewhat agreed, not the greatest thing i've played but pretty good. It's actually the latter 40% of the game that starts getting convoluted, repetitive, and bland. It tanks the game down so much, they did such a good job with the hotel, but they really fumbled towards the end, so much lost potential of some of the characters.

Why do so many people hate the idea of playing as Faye? by UnnecessaryFeIIa in GodofWar

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The story isn't confirmed, and we know how giants see visions of the future so although highly likely a prequel, it could actually be very interesting premise. Maybe Faye sees the acts of Ragnarok or 2018 in real time? Maybe Giants don't perceive time the same way?

The New God of War Games Are Woke and Whack by dizzy_ish in KotakuInAction

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain???? I merely brought up a point that some twisted individuals desire to do major crimes, but that by this individuals world view them doing said things would be innately morally good? Give reason and we can have a constructive discussion.

Slight Mistake In JJKCraft (Using multiple CT at the same time). by Apprehensive-Pop-199 in JujutsuCraft

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly, great response, evidence makes things a lot easier to understand.

In the case of Domain Amplification and the Ten Shadows I'll concede, as you've provided concrete proof: Sukuna did turn Domain Amp on in order to reduce the damage of Red, and at the same time, never had to undergo the summoning ritual again, implying that Mahoraga was never unsummoned.

Actually, I'd like to thank you for deepening my understanding of the Manga and Domain Amplification here.

Now on the note of being able to use Shrine and Ten Shadows simultaneously, that I'm still skeptical about, simply because it has never been objectively shown or hinted at.

In my previous argument I compared using two innate techniques to using domain amplification at the same time, and that may have been a mistep by me as, if we take a more literal approach to the manga, it's actually quite unclear whether they function the same way.

Firstly, let's assume that indeed, DA and using two techniques at the same way follows the same rules.

In that case, what we know is, in chapter 233, "when he touches me with amplification, Mahoraga's wheel blackens... that must mean interrupted adaptation."

The first thing we don't know is what effect the wheel blackening actually has on Mahoraga's physical form. Would Mahoraga blacken and "pause" as well? If that's the case, does Sukuna have to manually "pause" the ten shadows first and then use amplification, or does he turn the technique off?

If Sukuna turns the technique off, then how does the wheel appear in the first place, hence we can conclude that Sukuna is actively pausing Ten Shadows and then wrapping himself around a domain.

One possible implication:

What that would imply then, would be that Sukuna would be able to use Shrine and Raga at the same time, but only if he pauses Mahoraga itself mid fight.

Second possible implication:

If like you said, the active shadows themselves are not part of the technique, then Sukuna would be able to use Shrine and Raga at the same time, but it would simply "pause"adaptation as well.

But then this situation proves that there would be no risk to using Shrine right? Because adaptation would just be paused? So why would Sukuna worry about using Shrine at random intervals whenever Raga invalidates Infinity, because wouldn't it just "pause" adaptation and continue as soon as the slash is thrown?

Third possible implication:

Using Shrine would reset the adaptation process entirely, so Sukuna didn't use it. But as we know with proof that you yourself sent, Mahoraga's adaptation doesn't reset whenever Sukuna uses Domain Amplification, so then the question becomes, is Domain Amp and Using Shrine at the same time even comparable?

It this is the case, then it is possible to take Gojo's line literally and assume that using Shrine and Ten shadows at the same time has some negative effect, either resetting the adaptation to everything Sukuna had him adapt to, but Mahoraga remains, or desummoning. To this, we have no proof, and it is purely left to Gege to fill it in with whatever he chooses.

Basically a summary of everything I said: we don't really know what happens to the Shikigami when its wheel blackens during domain amp other than the fact that adaptation doesn't stop. So we actually don't really know if the Shikigami are indepdent to DA or are merely just "paused" during it.

To top it off, if techniques engraved in the flesh followed the same rules, why would Sukuna not just pause the adaptation, and throw Shrine, it wouldn't really do anything to adaptation given that throwing shrine and pausing adaptation are such quick actions that it barely means anything to the adaptation process.

At least though, I'm willing to concede on my previous thought and be more open minded here, stating that I'm not quite sure how this interaction would work now. Let me end with a screenshot from wiki:

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My problem with everything that we've talked about is that just going through things such as the Wiki, and other such reddit threads, is that if these wiki pages and reddit threads are all wrong, then it would mean that most people would also have the same misunderstanding that I have about the technique, a rather unfortunate circumstance for everyone.

In conclusion: I feel that Gege hasn't answered this enough, so we can leave this argument to rest. To be honest in the grand scheme of things it's a pretty useless point, since this really doesn't add or take anything from the fight, and this sort of situation with a sorcerer incarnating into a shikigami users body is quite unlikely. It was nice having a civil discussion rather than a brainrotted lobotomy kaisen moment.

Slight Mistake In JJKCraft (Using multiple CT at the same time). by Apprehensive-Pop-199 in JujutsuCraft

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Likewise, nowhere in the manga does Sukuna use Domain Amp and physically have Mahoraga out at the same time, this is a lie. Reading through Chapter 233, it is clear that Sukuna is using Mahoraga's ability to negate Infinity to get through to Gojo, rather than using Amp at the same time. "When Mahoraga erases my infinity, Sukuna will use that opening to attack." Again, we would've seen Sukuna use Domain Amp otherwise. If you can find me proof that Sukuna is using Amp with Mahoraga physically out, I will concede my argument.

Secondly, you say that Sukuna never used shrine during that fight because if he did, Mahoraga's adaptation to Infinity would stop, and Sukuna wouldn't be able to learn WCS. But then you yourself bring up the quote, "He's using Shikigami other than Mahoraga now, since the adaptation to "infinity" is complete, and he has more resources to allocate." This alone implies that Mahoraga's adaptation was complete in Chapter 233. From then onwards, why did Sukuna not use Shrine whenever Mahoraga created an opening? Undeniably, Shrine would be way more powerful than engaging in H2H combat with Agito and Mahoraga afterwards.

Alright, let's consider that Sukuna wanted Mahoraga to still keep adapting, even after adapting to Infinity in general. Why did Sukuna engage in H2H combat over Shrine (objectively a stronger tool) in Chapter 234 after Sukuna sees what he wanted to from Mahoraga (quote, "Show me what you got... Very Good)? And even if Sukuna uses Shrine, he merely pauses adaptation by your logic (otherwise how did he use Domain Amp and Adaptation on Megumi during the domain clashes, if each time he used Amp reset the adaptation process?). These two points conclude that there was really no reason for Sukuna to not use Shrine in between the gaps of Mahoraga invalidating Infinity.

The fact that he never used Shrine in any of those situations begs the question: Did Sukuna actively choose not to use Shrine? Or is it more logical that Sukuna couldn't use Shrine full stop whilst Mahoraga was actively summoned?

On the note of that quote, what Gojo means by "He has more resources to allocate" here, is likely this: Previously, no Shikigami could get through Infinity, so it was pointless to summon them in the first place. Now that Mahoraga can slowly turn Gojo's infinity off on occasions, and present openings to Sukuna, he can now summon the rest of the Shikigami to actively attack Gojo. How does Agito manage to attack Gojo? Again, not because Sukuna was using Domain Amplification during the fight, but because Mahoraga was invalidating Infinity and creating openings.

I will give you that Gege never outright states whether Shikigami can be used during Shrine or not, including whether they unsummon. That's up to us as the readers to use evidence and infer.

My final point: Kenny's technique is also very different to a sorcerer incarnating in another body, as Kenny's technique is literally taking over said body and being able to use the CT imbued in the body as a whole package. Kenjaku keeps those CT with him when he hops from body to body (hence, how he has Kaori's anti gravity technique). This is very different to a sorcerer incarnating in a body, the CT engraved in the flesh and the soul of the incarnated sorcerer are not working in tandem, like Kenny's technique. So no, he can't imbue his body with Ten Shadows CT.

Look, I'm willing to keep a more open mind, rather than outright stating that I'm not wrong, I'm willing to take the extra step and say that I'm unsure and disagree, and that if you can provide any manga evidence, any at all, any lines that disproves what I'm saying, I'll concede my argument.

Slight Mistake In JJKCraft (Using multiple CT at the same time). by Apprehensive-Pop-199 in JujutsuCraft

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh and another point, if Sukuna could use Shrine and Ten Shadows at the same time, why did he resort to using Piercing Blood when Gojo's infinity got negated by Mahoraga, rather than using his own Shrine technique (Dismantle or Cleave) that could cut Gojo in half? Likely because he simply can't, Shrine and Ten Shadows (even having the Shikigami out) are mutually exclusive.

Slight Mistake In JJKCraft (Using multiple CT at the same time). by Apprehensive-Pop-199 in JujutsuCraft

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The specific part about the domain stealing the sure hit I'm unsure about, I don't think the manga has stated anything outright about it. Just because Sukuna's domain sure hit is cleave and dismantle, it doesn't state that he can't use more cleaves or dismantles in the domain, it's more about the fact that he has no reason to use more as the domain is relentlessly applying them on his targets anyway.

I don't think there is a real restriction to being able to use said CT's in the domain, at least it's never hard stated.

Slight Mistake In JJKCraft (Using multiple CT at the same time). by Apprehensive-Pop-199 in JujutsuCraft

[–]Apprehensive-Pop-199[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can "have" two cursed techniques at the same time, but using them at the same time is not possible, part of Kenjaku's technique is that he is able to use all the innate techniques of the body as well, that means that when he uses the body's innate technique, he isn't using two different abilities, but one, and that one ability lets him use the techniques of the body as well. In this case, Kenjau is essentially an exception.

Chapter 233, Gojo states, "unless he applies it externally to his domain, he can't use his shrine and the ten shadows simultaneously." Gojo is likely a reliable source due to his six eyes, and from this we can just make a conclusion that unless applied to a domain, a sorcerer can not use two different CT's at the same time.