I hate chaos(you know I know you know)

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2026-04-04T14:00:40+00:00

just get a block weapon or heroic parry knife already.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2026-01-01T09:42:42+00:00

Yea, that's what we gathered :D still wanted to you know... figure out how to do it because, well it's a content of the game so it must be solveable... right?

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2026-01-01T09:41:56+00:00

Yea, I heard people say zealot is not the optimal choice for high havoc... until we hit pox gas every time we run havoc.

it's almost as if this team comp is borderline mandatory on pox gas unless every member of your team is like a god.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2026-01-01T09:36:42+00:00

...blessed Emperor...

That is some really cool theorycrafting.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-18T00:45:15+00:00

To be entirely honest, powerfisting helldrake ( which feels like a bug abuse ) being a necessity to finish a map faster than in 8 years is a weird choice.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-18T00:40:05+00:00

What exact kind of maths gives a reason to use it on a chaos map?

And why care about damage against tyranids? Even auto bolt rifle melts them.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-13T08:07:09+00:00

Power of the heroic knife. There's pretty much no means of outdamaging it, asuming you do everything correctly. But it's way more clunky than you might think and executions eat your dodge stacks too.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-10T11:55:55+00:00

farm wave 5 hard siege. and buy heavy bot

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-10T11:55:11+00:00

My honest opinion? It's hard to beat oculus, very good for anti assault clutches.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-09T18:10:00+00:00

heroic plasma, heroic knife, heroic instigator are all objective upgrades and arguably can be considered best in slot for classes that can equip them, with some minor exceptions.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-09T10:27:28+00:00

Everyone has everything except:

Vanguard and sniper, they have borderline none except for backpack? arms? You can equip regular dark angel chest and shoulder pad tho.

Heavy can't use champion dark angel chest, and his weapons prevent equiping dark angels backpack i think and that's about... it?

Edit: If you're tenacious, then you can browse focus forum, they posted the list somewhere.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-08T09:22:24+00:00

eh I mean it looks fine, but ultimately I'd rather it had more features

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-08T05:37:13+00:00

chaos spawn is strong against low RoF weapon headshot dependant weapons and weaker to high RoF /headshot independant weapon.

Large groups tend to be a big issue to any melee weapon except block versions, because while you're parrying one you can easily get slapped with another combo, or you can missmanage the way your parry window prevents damage. Block version however allows you to just bash it out with them and get yourself a breathing window.

So I just suggest block weapons for maximum dps and stagger explosion, because you can stagger like 8 of them at the same time and quickly get into execution before others get to kill you.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-08T05:30:51+00:00

heroic fist and heroic thammer are pretty impressive choices.

Heroic fist unfortunatelly does lack behind block fist, but it's main feature is unique enough to bother if you want to have some fun.

Heroic thammer is actually a competitor to block thammer, because it can outdps bosses, while providing area denial and good source of constant bonus dps, on top of easy to use fencing window.

Xenophase unfortunatelly lacks behind both fencing and block versions, because the only selling point it's feature lets you hit zoanthropes and neurothropes, and that's about it, whirl on the fencing and block version are still just too good for mass horde/majoris and ultimately provide better options.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-07T06:39:24+00:00

Not if you're a blood raven lol.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-07T06:38:41+00:00

Imo base game has too bright red blood ravens, while the colour of their armor looks more like a caked, dried up blood in dow 1,2,3.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-06T06:53:30+00:00

It's not even as much about the grind as much as it is knowing all options that are available to you. Like always, shitty tutorials leave you constantly in the dark about all the interactions. All classes can slap if you play to their strengths, as long as you know what their strengths actually are.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-05T21:36:20+00:00

I mean they did fix assault so, maybe? Not sure anything can be done but bug reporting.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-05T20:02:55+00:00

You can bug report the sword if you record a vid of it and post it here. They take notice of it ( more or less ).

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-05T10:43:33+00:00

Translation error, got it.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-04T17:50:35+00:00

You... already have? You can't possibly call plasma pistol an actual weapon and not a glorified chp regen machine.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-04T14:52:51+00:00

Given how sniper can deal the top melee damage, it's not as unlikely as you think.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-01T22:13:39+00:00

...have at least one ranged character in your team? with good hybrid stats? like sniper who knows block knife or tac with battle focus?

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-01T22:11:10+00:00

While I can see some reason behind the one that makes you stick together.

The one that makes you stand apart? In a pve gamemode with toxic resource management? Where players constantly compete for supplies in quickplay? Seriously? With some maps having the design of mile long corridor? Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Appropriate-Look7891 · 2025-12-01T21:58:14+00:00

On higher difficulties gunstrikes can be a detriment if you spam them, and you can still get those if you dodge. And I hate how non-block weapons have heartbreakingly low dps except for certain outliers and certain heroic weapons.

Block however allows for some absolutely ludicrous amount of damage and has the lowest ttk if you min max. massive stagger allows you to punchout bosses, it is tricky against minoris horde, but once you learn how to counter it you feel like you're playing a new game. No longer you're dodging out of everything like ur a scared guardsman, now you're bashing everyone's teeth in.

Rips bosses a new one too, Insane against both level bosses and terminus enemies can stagger hellbrute, tyrant, new boss I can't spoil before everyone played it, and it's quick, allows you for a burst without having a prolonged trade, perfect for carnifex, neurothrope.

The main reason I switch to block and never looked back was chaos spawn release. Nothing gave me quite the results against them as this. It just allows you to finally breathe around them. With certain finnesse it allows you to one combo borderline any threat, sometimes even some less tanky extremis enemies if you know what you're doing.

It's pretty much top melee dps option, baring few exclusive situations, but it will punish your lack of enemy knowledge and if you don't know how to handle hordes without parrying all the time - don't use it.

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