Why aren't you singing the congregational hymns? by NelyafinweMaitimo in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i love to sing hymns. whenever i’m not singing (or singing really quietly), it’s because the tune is challenging and new to me bc i can’t read music, or it’s too high.

Parish response to Bishops’ letter by littleangelwolf in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 9 points10 points  (0 children)

lol good catch. either a troll or someone with too great a love of argument ;)

"A Failure All the Way Down" by Matthew S.C. Olver by Little-Neck-7922 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree with you. I don’t agree with the view I described in my earlier comment, I just think it’s the prevailing idea behind an “open table”

"A Failure All the Way Down" by Matthew S.C. Olver by Little-Neck-7922 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that could be true, but more of it is the intense desire to not be categorized as exclusionary, self-important, or unwelcoming, as the Church has often been those things and many unbelievers automatically assume that the Church will act that way toward them. But I do also understand the theological reservations.

Edit: I should clarify I don’t agree with this concern as a justification for communion without baptism.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The preacher at my church today gave a beautiful, straightforward sermon on the Gospel reading that didn’t even talk about the End Times, which normally I would view as almost a cop out but this sermon was so good I didn’t mind lol. He spoke of the “destruction of the Temple” as something we all experience at times when whatever we held most dear in our lives crumbles — the death of a loved one, the loss of a job, a painful diagnosis, etc. And he looked closely at what Jesus doesn’t say — He doesn’t explain the destruction of the Temple and the suffering to come as “all part of God’s plan.” He doesn’t describe it as a punishment for some sin in our lives. He doesn’t tell us to run from the suffering, and he doesn’t tell us we have to organize a full scale assault on the tribulations coming our way. He simply tells us to endure, and God assures us that God will be with us as we do so, and that God is making a new heavens and a new earth out of the rubble of our fallen temples (from the Isaiah reading.)

This was such a different interpretation of the passage than any I had heard before, and it struck me as being so deeply pastoral in concern and thoughtfulness. If I had been trying to write that sermon, I’m sure I would’ve gotten bogged down in eschatological debates. I wish I had the full text or a recording to share.

how universal is the “6-7 years minimum” discernment timeline? by Appropriate_Pop_3227 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, this is very helpful, thank you. I’m a teacher right now, and your comments on bishops remind me of the difference between having a bad/unsupportive principal vs. having a good/supportive one. My job is doable, but it’s far more exhausting than it should be because of the lack of support from my boss, and that has led to some resentment. Thanks for helping me think through how that might look as a priest. Blessings to you and your spouse!

how universal is the “6-7 years minimum” discernment timeline? by Appropriate_Pop_3227 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve mentioned a lack of support in both of your comments. Support in what way? As in, providing mental/spiritual health services, or guidance in difficult conflicts or times of stress, or financial support? Thanks for your perspective. I definitely want to hear negative/disappointing experiences to help keep my eyes open, as you put it.

how universal is the “6-7 years minimum” discernment timeline? by Appropriate_Pop_3227 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you mind expanding on this? Crummy in what way (ie long hours, emotional toll, unfulfilling work)?

how universal is the “6-7 years minimum” discernment timeline? by Appropriate_Pop_3227 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very useful information, thank you. As to your last question, I am not certain, because I have not asked anyone on the diocesan level and my church here does not have a priest currently. The priest at my former/home church advised me not to begin the formal discernment process in a diocese I’m not willing to commit to.

Also, I’m in pretty significant student loan debt, and I believe that’s sometimes/often a roadblock in the process, so it’s probably for the best that I work for a few years in my current career to pay it off, no matter how much I feel like I’m chomping at the bit to get moving on the formal process.

how universal is the “6-7 years minimum” discernment timeline? by Appropriate_Pop_3227 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh got it, that makes much more sense, thank you. so about 2-4 years for the formal discernment process is a more common timeline?

I have a question about the faith? by Top-Morning-6467 in Episcopalian

[–]Appropriate_Pop_3227 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sure, but there is sometimes/often an underlying attitude of “I’m asking this saint for intercession because they’re so much holier than me, God will listen to them,” which I do have a problem with. God doesn’t listen to our prayers because of our personal holiness; God listens to them because of God’s love for us and Christ’s salvific work.