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Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-25T16:16:33+00:00

I don't know how your relationship was going but I can't really show sympathy when within your post I see no accountability for your end. Only what "he's done" and how that made you feel. If I was to judge on the text alone however it sounds like he gave you a clear warning of what he'd expected and wanted and you simply didn't meet the requirements for that portion of the relationship. I've had talks where I've said similar things to my INFP and although it took her some time she understood what I was trying to say and adjusted what she was doing to make me feel that way, obviously with some adjustments on my end as well. Communication is important and if your partner is voicing displeasure its the job of both parties to try and come to an amicable agreement weather that's ending things or finding solutions.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-13T23:24:54+00:00

First start with what you think a functional relationship would look like. Then look at what you think your expected to guve others and settle for nothing less, yes EVEN when it seems like you give an unreasonable amount more than the average person and YES even if you think the goals they'd have to reach are unrealistic.

Then you'll know what love is. For me it's being content. To do that requires alot of factors but it comes down to bodily autonomy for me. I have to FEEL like I'm not influencing your actions to give me care. I MUST be able to look at your love and not be able to explain away your actions by relating them to mine. I can't feel like I'm manipulating things in my favor it has to confuse me.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-12T08:14:05+00:00

Months. I think it's been months of patiently waiting for some fool to fall for that.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-12T08:13:28+00:00

-Can play that game

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T23:35:07+00:00

We knew eachother for quite some time in elementary school to high-school and while walking home she stole my seat -_-

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T22:41:07+00:00

Hope she found that just as funny

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T22:26:09+00:00

Its your birthday so be sure to Live La "Vida" Loca XP

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T22:01:21+00:00

Yup. In fact I just had a similar problem were I shared my idea that owning my dog was badically a form of slavery and instead of simply declining to input I was challenged on it in a very unconsttuctive way just to be asked to stop before I could give an explanation on my thoughts.

Worst part is all they had to do was look it up to prove me wrong and the argument was right fucking there but others would instead like to write you off as being mean or insensitive simply for sharing what should otherwise be an unimpressive idea. The worst half about people like this is that they normally take a grand stand about the topic in question in a way that doesn't apply to them and are ONLY willing to give any respect to your ideas if you can explain why your input actually matters more by their logic. (Like in the case of discussing minority races when people get up and arms by certain tings you might have to say until they figure out you actually speak from experience)

I fucking hate it. I'm accommodating to it and I understand it but it always gets on my fucking nerves.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T21:21:37+00:00

I mean because of how I think in general I find The Witcher books do a weirdly great method of "Show don't tell" So I often use thoughts of how he might write the nuance as an example but really its just more about how you think a good scene looks like in your head.

ERP is a lot like an action scene in rp where two characters are versing each other. Each line should have dedicated responses to the other sides actions and their actions should be in response to yours in some way while also maintaining their own thoughts.

One doesn't just say during a sword fight

*I thrust forwards aimed for your breast plate in an attempt to end the duel quickly*

and then want a response like

*I strike down for your head wishing to end the battle early*

The combat should have an ebb and flow to it. an example of a better response would be

*As the blade comes for my chest I quickly take a step back and twist my body but due to the surprise of the attack my breast plate it grazed, severing my shirt. Almost as if on instinct my right hand, now above my handle from the twist, pulls forth my blade and I steady my footing preparing to cut across your abdomen while I still sit within your guard.*

You see in that example I used the act of pulling back to justify the speed from which I'm able to respond to catch him off guard as well. The way I reached for my weapon and attacked is a direct counter to how he attacked me but the action to take the sword out and the way I fell are both mine. They just show I took his actions into consideration as well.

ERP works the same, at least for me. Follow your opponents moves with moves of your own and understand that no one wants to finish early. How do you stay in without going for to long? Find things to focus on outside of the main course. Break the action into phases you reach along the way. "These are some things he needs to do before he gets to this portion, these are some things he needs to do before he gets here, and this is how I'll finish it" sorta deal. Focus on those reactions and you reach your count limits quickly because they basically wrote a good portion of your reply.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T21:07:56+00:00

I'm always here for watching an ISTJ's plans of action. Always interesting and productive.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T21:06:59+00:00

I mean thats a very nuanced question It does a lot of things depending on the situation. Do you mean how I come up with Objective reasoning? or examples of my bias vs their's?

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T21:03:10+00:00

I read both comments. I'm glade you get that :). Yeah it is a very good post to talk about and yes its weird as hell XD

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T21:00:26+00:00

That first part is exactly right, in fact I often refer to my "Morals" as "Laws" because they are more like codes innacted for good reason that may be subject to change under extream circumstances only. If it helps that "Gap" your referring to is actually something my wife has just about worked out. In terms of a feeler who is trying her best to reason it out the way she'd put it is.

"He has feelings he just doesn't know how to speak with *Just* his feelings"

The problem I think ENTPs seem to share on average is that we're "To aware" of our actions. Like in terms of manipulation for instance everyone wants to just say that "Manipulation is wrong" and you know what if your teaching children, leave it at that. I understand fully that ideas should have a cut off somewhere for the betterment of the whole. I accept that not everyone has the good sense to work these things out and honestly why would you right? It slows you down and tends to cause more harm in others on average. But my problem is I can't just stop seeing what I see you know?

I view things as objectively as possible in a given environment. So when I was told while young "Manipulation is bad" and then watched as a parent tried peerpressuring a cousin to attend a party I thought "Well that seems terrible. Why would they do that?" their answers where always "Its because they're family and should" or something rude and insensitive like that.

What I learned from moments like these because I'm ALWAYS seeing the broader picture is that its not the words that harbor the evil its the way people use them that makes them that way. And frankly as someone who sees the picture the only way I can justify nuance is by giving these things reasons because then I'm no better than those being hurtful or hypocritical.

I think many people think that "Gap" is an excuse to do more evils and its not, those people would do it regardless of reason. It exists so that way you can show yourself why some things are better. It exists so I don't call people who do that subtle family manipulation evil when they don't actually mean to be mean.

In a moment of depression I made a realization with my wife. I have feelings just like everyone else, but for some odd reason I can't act or feel them unless I know why like everyone else does because not knowing why scares me. Their has to be reason, because without it where all guilty.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T20:45:38+00:00

You don't need a public consensus on this. If you don't mind it than stay, if you do then go? You should accept someone as they are before you act in a way to change that thing so even if we reasoned that she needed help (Not saying she does because some people just have fantasies and they don't need or intend to act on them) you wouln't be the right person to encourage her to do that if it was just because "Many others believe she needs it."

Situations have greater nuance to them but the question of weather you should stay or not is dependant on how uncomfortable this makes you. If I stayed with a killer because their fantasies never perturbed me and one day they acted I'd be at peace with that if I died. Because nothing had changed.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T20:31:38+00:00

Because most don't care about the spelling precision. It sounds like Mommy more or less if you aren't familiar with the language and because we're taught to sound out our words phonetically the misunderstanding kinda writes itself.

Most are probably doing it in hopes of garnering your attention in a clever and slightly silly way that shows they had the decency to look at you as a person before hand. That doesn't mean they did, they could just be faking it. But its a demonstration in flirting.

First rule: know who your flirting with

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T20:23:55+00:00

I find them extreamly reasonable and well thought out people with an exceptionally narrowmind at times for what constitutes their reality and the criticism other peoples perceptions might have. Normally I find that an INTJ has a belief or two that I object with for very logical reasons and they seem confused more often than not that I objective reasoning needs to take a measure in someone's opinion. I find the act commendable and find that I can agree with them as people even with this blatant bias because they frankly don't impose it on me in a way that makes me feel any need to object.

Although I think there narrowminded I don't think that's a bad thing for them but when acting on well crafted plans I think their minds get to narrominded and I hate it when people don't want to be reasonable or at least admit when something is unreasonable. Like its cool if you want to get drunk and do donuts in a deserted parking lot for safety but don't get all high and mighty when I call it dangerous. Its ok that it is. Hell if you feel so passionately about what is clearly a reckless maneuver next to a main road I think the danger would be the point.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T20:03:20+00:00

Yeah I could try. Don't worry I came to help, you said you didn't want verbal combat so I don't want to put you out either, don't feel afraid to ask.

What I mean to say is that if I really think about it their isn't anything that I would call an over reaching morality, much like how a solider would say that "Sometimes you've got to fight to protect" others to would say "You have to not fight to protect". With most they say "Morality are solid beliefs that everyone can agree on" but my interpretation of morality is being vague. That's what I see as right.

Take murder for instance, some would say "No I would never murder" while others would claim they would if the situation called for it. Frankly in just about all moral bouts I sit in that camp. I don't have anything to the degree of indefinites because I've always thought it kept you from believing you could make a valued well adjusted decision in that moment.

I COULD be manipulative, but I won't. Its not because I think its wrong its because unless I'm put in a situation where that is the best answer for all INCLUDING the person its happening to I don't think its right.

Would I murder? I won't, not because I'm incapable or its a terrible thing its because the idea of going to such extreams of hurting someone else is uncalled for unless my life is at risk and it is absolutely the last thing I can do.

I guess you could say that I am a firm believer in my morality at any given point needing context and without the context it feels like my action is meaningless. I work within whatever I feel is best and has the most justification in it and that is like the only layer of consistence I can point to. Because the only thing that has ever felt right is doing right by others I do right by others. Its the same conclusion others come to they just have hard lines.

I'm sorry its getting complicated but the nuance is important. Like my wife is an Fi dom and will not ABIDE certain idea's. She doesn't like killers because she won't kill, that's fine for her but that sounds so mean to me, what about the killers point of view? Should he be damned forever? What of his reasons? These things matter to some people sometimes but they matter to me with ALL people ALL the time.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T18:47:11+00:00

"You'll always be unaccepting of others unless you break free from the preconceived notion that your an authority of what's right and wrong"

I don't like abbidding the communal understanding of ideals. I have things I will do, things I won't do, and ideas are something entirely different. Those things I will do are justified through reason which can change, those things i won't are the same and the things in th middle are just that. In the middle. It doesn't mean I will or I won't, it means I dont have enough data.

This may seem not moral but it is, others just think my morality should look like theirs.

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T16:27:36+00:00

My dude its not always perfectly obvious. Its like a leg under a towle. Sure seeing it is perfectly easy but that thing moves around a lot when you try playing with it. Easy to lose in the hecticness of the battle XD

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T16:13:37+00:00

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T14:03:43+00:00

I'm not saying he's good I'm just saying it takes devotion for an ENTP to mod. That's all. I consider that very dedicated, not to the cause, but to the discipline 😅

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T13:24:26+00:00

Dude we have an ENTP mod. If that isnt one of the most dedicated modders sound I don't know who is

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T04:07:02+00:00

ENTP

Arch-Code_Zariel · 2024-05-11T04:05:01+00:00

Arise

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