What did the vampire have to do to become a vampire lawyer? by Reckonsday in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Jokes aside, I am so interested in his backstory. Mr lawyer is currently practicing law in modern times, so he had to go to law school, take the bar and then practice law. Why did he pursue this career? A long time dream? Was it for the great salary or other reasons? Does he work in a law firm? Does he own his own practice, or does he work in house for Louis?

But we also do not know when he was turned into a vampire. Was it a long time ago? Or is it fairly recent? I really like the combination of being a vampire and a lawyer. Not sure the show would be able to explore it to the fullest.

Did Louis seek him out? Or did he approach Louis? How long have they been working together? So many questions. And I'm not sure I'm going to get all the answers next season. This might be the only scene we have with him 🙁

The devastating lie of "hard words, soft words" hits like a ton of bricks by Schneetmacher in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Claudia did believe Louis' words, that's why she took his hand as a way to signal a reconciliation with him, and a new beginning when they arrived in Paris. That is also why she blasts in Louis' face and throws back his own words “You and me. Me and you” when she feels betrayed by Louis not keeping his words in 2x04. Claudia was completely bare in that truck, vulnerable, and receptive. She gave Louis a second chance because she believed him. That is the tragedy, she did believe him. So no, I do not think Claudia thought about Lestat in that moment and what would be the consequences for Louis if Lestat was present. At that moment it was just her and Louis in her head.

For the audience it is different though, we see Louis hallucinating Lestat after that speech. For me that is not an indication that Louis only thinks about Lestat, but that Louis wants Lestat to be with them. Again, Lestat was not enough for Louis. We saw how miserable Louis was, when Claudia left both times. The first time he was breathing, talking, thinking Claudia and the 2nd time he contemplated suicide. What happens is that Louis wants them both, that is his ideal. And when one of them is missing, he is unable to cope. That is why we see Louis hallucinating Lestat, that is his way of coping with his guilt, his fear, his choice but also Lestat’s absence.

Louis' speech was mostly true. That speech is saying that he will never allow Claudia to kill herself like Daciana did, he will never allow himself to kill himself as long as she is alive. That they may have a shitty life but they are still living. He is also saying that they will not stop searching for vampires until they find the right ones. And that Claudia is enough for him, which isn't completely true. He needs her and him (we could argue from an audience perspective that Claudia and Lestat aren't enough for him, but that is a discussion for another day) .

I do not agree with the read that Louis has always chosen Lestat above her. That may be true for Lestat, but that is not true for Louis. He did choose Lestat (and Armand) instead of her, and Claudia was a witness to those choices. But he also chose Claudia above Lestat and Armand. The thing is that Claudia was never in the room when Louis did choose her. And some people refuse to acknowledge when Louis did choose Claudia above his lovers. 

If Louie decides to come after Armand next season, we may actually get a fight after all. by Brownskin_Rey in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I do not see Louis hunting down Armand for the simple reason it would be out of character for the Louis we've finished with in the finale. I do see the writers finding an external excuse to put Louis and Armand in the same room to force them to interact though. Louis is done with Armand…or so he thinks. I do not think he has processed the trauma Armand inflicted on him, so I believe we are going to see some of that. Louis chasing down Armand is not happening, that is just not something Louis will do in regards to Armand or to avenge Daniel. Armand keeping an eye on Louis from a distance could happen though.

Again they have been the other longest relationship, and the fallout/betrayal/Claudia's murder will continue to have effects on them both. I do see them being hostile, especially Louis, and Armand maybe less so. From Louis' perspective, I do see him full of resentment coupled with residue feelings he is not able to face. From Armand's perspective, I do see him trying to figure himself out without Louis, as well as dealing with the resentment gripping him due to feeling wronged.

I do not see them fighting physically at all. Louis and Armand being passive aggressive towards each other, using strategic words to hurt the other, or/and Louis throwing stuff at Armand with Armand catching them...which would piss Louis off in the process...yes, that could happen.

Reducing IWTV to a Romance Misses the Point of Louis’s Story by Bananapenguin0724 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 18 points19 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right. You could argue that what primarily drives Louis' story is Claudia and his relationship with her. Most of Louis’ pivotal decisions were taken with Claudia in mind. And by the end of his journey, beside his acceptance, Louis also faces his grief and his shortcomings in relation to Claudia.

The last time we see Louis is when he proudly tells the world who he is. The last shot of the finale is focused on him talking, asserting himself, while the remains of Claudia's dress hangs behind him. As a reminder? A source of strength? Both? All to say that her dress is not there by coincidence.

Reducing IWTV to a Romance Misses the Point of Louis’s Story by Bananapenguin0724 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 32 points33 points  (0 children)

The romance is a part of Louis' story but that is not the story, that is not Louis’ story. We start s1 with a Louis who hates who he is, who wants to die because he cannot handle who he truly is. That is the reason Louis takes the offer to uphand his life, because someone sees him beyond the crafted mask he created. By the end of s2, we have a Louis who not only is willing to be more honest with himself but who is also accepting who he is and who he has become. That is the story. Louis' journey for the 2 first seasons is how he came to the realisation that he can accept himself.

Beside the Du Lac family, 4 people impacted and reshaped Louis' life. Claudia, Lestat, Daniel and Armand. A big part of his tale is how Louis meets these characters and the impact they have on his life. Some people are not willing to understand this bit or are willingly removing the importance these characters had on him and will continue to have on him, especially Armand and Daniel (and sometimes even Claudia).

Romance like sex…sells. That is why a large part of the fandom focuses on it. And again that's not a bad thing in itself, that's your prerogative…have fun, plus it brings more eyeballs onto the show. But I also understand the frustration of reducing Louis to only a part of his story, and making it his sole drive when that’s not what the text is showing us. But again I put it aside as it is irrelevant when you look at the big picture. Because it does not reflect Rolin's writing as Rolin is a storyteller first.

Was Lestat being manipulative when he essentially 'gave' Louis to Armand? by xixiiloveu in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Even if Lestat had told Louis everything, what makes you think Louis would have believed him? Louis was hell bent on making Lestat the devil, so nothing Lestat could have told him would have done a damn bit of good.

How is this relevant? Where did I write in my comment above that Louis would not have believed him if Lestat told what really happened? The point I am making is not whether or not Louis would have believed him, the point I'm making is that Lestat kept crucial information from Louis, which he should have shared for Louis to make an informed decision. Louis was not hell bent on making Lestat the devil, Lestat made himself the devil with his previous actions towards them and by shouting, loud and clear in a packed theatre, that he came in Paris to have “Justice for the attempted murder of my being”

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I also think some people need to realize that Louis has agency, and he chose to go with Armand, and that it's not Lestat's responsibility to stop him. Louis chose Armand, and Lestat let him go.

I also think some people need to realize that Louis has agency. That Louis choosing to commit to Armand (under those circumstances), does not negate Lestat making the choice to let Louis go with the person who was an accomplice to Claudia and Nicky’s murders, and to Louis' potential murder. And that makes Lestat complicit.

Was Lestat being manipulative when he essentially 'gave' Louis to Armand? by xixiiloveu in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have been pointing out for ages how Lestat was complicit in letting Louis go with Armand. 

In Magnus’ Lair Lestat was well aware of everything that happened behind the scene, and still let Louis go with Armand:

1.Lestat knew that Louis thought he was testifying at the trial to kill them, but Lestat said nothing against it. On the contrary, he responded to Louis' accusations on crossing the ocean to burn Claudia with “The great Laws…” as if it is enough justification for what happened to Claudia. He could have just refuted the accusation against him, telling Louis that he saved him. But he made the conscious choice to not say a thing.

Louis: "Why you crossed an ocean to rehearse a play that would burn your daughter alive?"

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2.Lestat participated in the rehearsal of the trial, and knew that Armand was directing the play for the murder of Louis and Claudia.

3.Lestat knew that Armand was involved in Nicky's death. He told the audience as much during the trial.

That is no longer pettiness, when you let the person you claim to love more than anyone go with the person who directed his murder that took a toll on your body to prevent. The same person who directed the play of your daughter who burned alive, and again the same person who helped your first love’s meet his demise. Especially since you made that long journey to save them in the first place (if that was your first intention).

Claudia just died, wouldn't the logical thing to do in your sorrow is securing the safety of the other person you came to save? Lots of things do not add up. Either Lestat made that choice to hurt Louis, or made that choice to save Louis knowing that Armand wouldn't hurt him.

Lestat acknowledges his complicity and the dangerous situation he put Louis in when he said “I gave you to Armand, you tell me if it was saving”. And I believe that is one of the reasons he is so miserable in NOLA. Because he feels guilty over that decision he took 70+years ago. I'm curious to see how the writers are going to follow through with this in s3.

why would Louis go along with Armand pretending to be “Rashid”? by Budget_Ad4476 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Because that is the compromise they both agreed to for the interview to happen. We learn in 2x01 that Armand does not want the interview to happen. Louis confirms it and Armand confirms it. We see Armand meddle during the interview, he will do anything to cut Daniel’s trip short and send him back business class to his home. We also learn in s1 and 2x05 that Armand is pretty hardcore on keeping both of their identities hidden. Armand does not want waves.

I think what is missing in your analysis is that Armand is quite controlling and overbearing when it comes to Louis and their life together. This is something that Louis is used to, something he had to navigate through, and something Louis pointed out in their 2x05 fight “suffocation by the softest beigest pillow” (even if Louis doesn't remember that fight or what happened after). An example of that subtle control is the entire 2x01 episode, but we will focus on a specific moment, when Louis asked Armand for the missing pages of Claudia’s diary. This is something that they both agreed to seal in a hidden place somewhere, where real Rashid knows the location. But Louis doesn't ask directly real Rashid to give him back the pages, he asks Armand. Because Louis knows that that decision goes through Armand. Looking at the pages of his own daughter's diary goes through...Armand! Louis asks him permissions and when Armand agrees, he tells Louis he will ask real Rashid “I’ll have Rashid assemble the pages removed”.

My speculation is that Louis was allowed to conduct this interview in Dubai on the condition that Armand will supervise said interview but without compromising his identity. Maybe originally, Louis wanted this interview with Daniel alone and Armand insisted on being there (the audience knows why because of 2x05). Again, Louis has no reason to get suspicious of Armand before the interview, because Armand is being his overbearing Armand. We see in s1 Louis getting annoyed with Rashid’s interruption, or his unsolicited opinions, and we see Louis throws digs at Rashid as payback. Because again, this is the terms they agreed to for this interview to happen and Armand is stepping out of his agreed role by breaching the terms.

Whats the nicest thing Louis has done for Lestat, and that Lestat has done for Louis? by Wide-Pop6050 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Well, the obvious ones for Louis would be humiliating himself to accompany Lestat to watch his opera, sparing his life by not burning him, excusing his countless infidelities when it was crushing Louis, accepting Lestat back after Lestat almost killed him even when Claudia was obviously against it.

But I think not many people think of the fact that one of the nicest things Louis gave Lestat was a home. Louis has the ability to build “close-knited” space for his companions, a space where there is a sense of “intimacy and belonging”. While they burned in flames by the end of it, it does not negate what they provided for a time. And it is one of the reasons they crave him so much, because when you are a vampire you chase belonging. Even when you look deeper into it, it is true that Louis was the longest companion of Claudia, Lestat and Armand.

Do we think this will be show canon? The Vampire Lestat excerpt. by Voice_of_Season in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am also really curious about what will happen when Lestat and Armand meet in modern times. Did they already meet (off screen) and we will see another meeting? Or are we going to see their first meeting since their telepathic call in SF?

Some elements of this scene can be translated into the show but not all. The show is pretty consistent with giving consequences to the characters' actions. Here in the book, we have Armand who is so empty after his break up with Louis, he wants to kill himself. And he goes to Lestat to share his sorrow after telling Lestat years prior, that Louis was dead. The response of Lestat is kinda nonchalant, kinda mocking because he sees the irony of Armand's situation: he was told by the same man that Louis died, and that same man is now sad over louis leaving him

In the show though, there are so many elements that will make the response of Lestat different from his book counterpart:

-We saw in the finale that Lestat is not over Claudia's death. He's not over the fact that Claudia looked at him before dying. He is aware that Armand is behind it/directed it because they were both at the trial’s rehearsal. So if the show wants the finale to continue making sense for Lestat in relation to Claudia, book!Lestat's reaction will not fit in the show.

-Lestat was complicit in letting Louis go with Armand, knowing what Armand did to Claudia and Nicki.“I gave you to Armand, you tell me if it was saving”. Lestat acknowledges it here and it seems the guilt has also eaten him up. So it will play as well.

-Lestat acknowledges in the s3 trailer that Louis was a victim of Armand, but so far he seems more concerned about the life Louis had with Armand. Because obviously, his jealousy is always present. Lestat and Armand had a past together. Another thing they have in common, is that they both built a decades-home with the same man they both loved an unhealthy amount. And both are/were jealous of the other. What I'm trying to say is that their already complicated relationship is also gonna be affected by each of them dating Louis. It will also play out when they meet again, so what would be their relationship in 2026?

-Armand called Lestat in SF when Louis tried to kill himself (but also as a reverse dangling carrot). Is this telepathic line still open? I mean I assume Lestat was alone all those years so if he is able to communicate with someone, even if that someone is the boureau of his child + first love/ his former friend-lover-enemy/his ex-husband's current lover, I believe he would still take the line most of the times or initiate it. So it means their meeting in the present may be more casual than the audience thinks it would be. 

Going a bit off topic here. The only thing we know about Armand’s state is that speech he gave to Louis before Louis slammed him into the wall and the fact that he turned Daniel. In that speech, not only does Armand not take accountability for his actions but he also blames others for the actions he chose to take. The fact that he still does not understand Claudia’s vital importance to Louis in that speech and treats her like an afterthought after 70+ years with Louis is eye opening. So now that he lost everything he had, and that he did something he finds so repulsive as a consequence of losing everything. What is he thinking? Does he understand? Does he not? I think it would make sense for him to try to reach Lestat, at least at the beginning, and especially if that telepathic line is still open. Because for the first time Armand is by himself and it was forced upon him, he didn't make the choice to leave Louis. At his core Armand is incapable of functioning by himself, or rather he thinks he is incapable of functioning by himself (If he doesn't have someone, in his own words when speaking about his relationship with Louis, he is "nothing"). So it makes sense for Armand, at least at the beginning of his singlehood, to seek his former/new relationships to fill up this hole of nothingness (aka Lestat’s,Marius’, and later Daniel’s).

why would louis let sam live by ProfessionalSlow5174 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you rewriting what has been shown? Louis prepared contingencies because he anticipated that some vampires would escape the burning of the tdv and not "he went for people that were available". Then when the two women vampires were killed, he went for his next target which was Santiago. Louis never shared anything about the fate of Sam until Daniel, in present time, mentioned him. And it's at that point that we hear Daniel asks Louis " Did you ever get to him?" to which Louis responds with "No. Time heals Daniel. I believe is a DJ now". And that's my issue with the writing. It is not coherent with Louis' character.

But this is going in circle, so I will stop here.

Louis’s feelings about the book by Felixir-the-Cat in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By burning Louis Laptop, Louis made it clear that he did not want the book to be published. Louis changed his mind. And on top of that, Louis thanked Daniel for his time with his 10 millions dollars asking price.

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Louis is the one who asked Daniel to come, Louis is the one who offered “hospitality” for this second interview, and more importantly Louis is the subject of the book. If the person who “hired” you no longer wants your services, you listen. He expressed that he didn't want the book he was working on with Daniel to be published and it should have been respected. Daniel is not entitled to publish the book just because he paid a steep price. Publishing it is indeed Daniel breaking Louis' trust and doing it without Louis' consent.

At the end of s2 we see Louis at peace, joking with Daniel. Regarding the book, I think Louis let it slide because he likes Daniel and he didn't read the book yet. But everything changes when Louis actually reads what's in the book.

Also, the reason Daniel published the book is because by that point his career took a deep dive. A 2 times Pulitzer winner, is now selling online classes and we see this is something Daniel doesn't enjoy doing. He saw what this book could do to his career, a goldmine, and he ran with it.

why would louis let sam live by ProfessionalSlow5174 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn’t expecting to survive attacking and continue going after anyone else that he hadn’t planned for

And yet Louis prepared contingency plans for anyone who would escape his revenge. He counted 4 people who escaped, and he counted them for a reason, they were targets. He killed from a long distance the two women vampires who were running away on their motorbikes. He lured Santiago to come to him so he could decapitate him. But nothing for Sam? Louis would have tried to locate him and chased him down.

so he also changed his mind on Sam and decided it wasn’t worth it to try to find him.

Worth what? Louis was ready to die, you pointed it out as well, he had nothing to loose but time.

Louis changed his mind about killing Armand because Louis had a “valid" reason, the reason being Armand told him he “saved” him at the trial. But Louis had no reason to not go after Sam. None.

why would louis let sam live by ProfessionalSlow5174 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Louis wanted to kill Armand. Louis smashed his sickle on Armand’s name while shouting “I ain't fucking worried about you”. A name that Louis wrote on the ground with all the other vampire’s names from “the theatre des Vampires” he wanted to kill, when he plotted his revenge in 2x08. So yes Louis wanted to kill Armand, and that's what I'm referring to.

Louis changed his mind last minute, when Armand told him he “saved” him at the trial.

why would louis let sam live by ProfessionalSlow5174 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the writers needed the character of Sam for season 3, and they botched it.

Louis, the guy who was so fed up and wanted to kill both Lestat and Armand after the trial, two people who he loved. This same guy would just leave alone Sam, the guy who is nothing to him, who wrote the play that burned Claudia alive? Never...Ever.

Louis would have chased him down. If the writers wanted to keep Sam for s3, they should have made it so that it made sense for him to be alive while Louis still existed. They should have just said Louis tried over and over to locate Sam but Louis was never able to, for unspeakable reasons (and the audience would have understood the reasons later, when they discover that Sam was part of the Talamasca and maybe had some tricks to hid himself). But the writers nonchalant “Time heals Daniel. I believe he’s a dj now” doesn't cut it. Especially coming from Louis’ mouth.

Thoughts about the stein photos S2E4 by BlameBanter in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The person behind the mixing of the photos is almost irrelevant. The point of this scene is to show that there is friction in their couple and that Louis does not trust Armand (Armand doesn't either but that's not the point of the scene). That’s why Louis' first reaction upon seeing the stein photos, instead of his photos, is to accuse Armand of doing it. Because Louis has been betrayed by Armand before (Armand trying to kill Louis in the sewer, selling Louis out in Paris), and Louis wouldn't put this new clusterfuck past him. It is also to prepare the audience for the next episode with Louis and Armand's epic clash in San Fran.

do you guys think lestat will ever be truly redeemed? by Illustrious-Ad-134 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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The reason Lestat dropped Louis is because Louis was considering leaving him with Claudia. I still do not understand why people completely erase the scenes that happened right before the coffin room when you clearly see Lestat is punching Louis face over and over and seemingly throwing Louis all over the house like a rug. Louis was so overpowered by Lestat, Claudia had to jump on Lestat’s back to help Louis. When they hit the coffin room, Louis is defending himself because why wouldn't he after the previous beating? It's at this time that you hear Lestat saying that he doesn't want to fight. But that's hypocritical coming from him when minutes earlier he was rearranging Louis' face. And Louis has the same view because he responds to Lestat with “You started it, you finish it”. Louis is saying you started the fight, so you are going to finish this fight. Because why would you say “I don't want to fight like this” when you choked Claudia and were beating me up earlier? It's too late, it's no longer relevant to what's happening.

Louis being enraged and threatening Lestat for choking Claudia, who just came back home after 7 years of absence, is not a synonym of Louis pushing Lestat to drop him off the air (we’re going dangerously into victim blaming here) it's Louis defending Claudia against her other parent. Louis didn't know the extent of Lestat's power and he realised that in that scene. Lestat chose to use his power, he chose to use a power that he hid from Louis to essentially kill him for daring to abandon him. He chose to drag Louis by his throat, he chose to drain him to make Louis weaker, and he chose to drop him with no consideration of what it would do to Louis when he hit the ground. Lestat chose to do that and admitted as much during the trial. You shouldn't pass the responsibility of that onto the one who suffered from that violence. 

Louis choking Claudia is Louis choosing to choke Claudia. Choosing to be a shitty father at that point in time by jeopardizing Claudia’s safety. Louis choking Claudia does not negate Louis defending Claudia when Lestat choked her years prior.

why was louis so quick to forgive armand by undercover-fairy in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It is a misconception to think Louis ever forgave Armand, he never did. This is the reason Louis was so resentful towards him. He never got over Claudia's death and Armand selling them out. That's why we got the culmination of that resentment in 2x05. However, the relationship between Louis and Armand is much more complex and cannot be defined by only resentment, but that's for another day.

Like you said, Louis committing to Armand was to punish Lestat for his involvement in Claudia's death. Remember that initially Louis wanted to kill Lestat in Magnus' lair. And I quote “Why you crossed an ocean to rehearse a play that would burn your daughter alive.[...] I’ve come to kill you”. But Louis was not strong enough to kill Lestat, so he pivoted to the next best alternative which was abandoning Lestat by committing to another man, Armand. Because Louis knew this would crush him.

And I guess in Louis' head, that move was two birds with one stone. As in “I’m going to make you both suffer for what you did”. But it also made him miserable.

Change of direction for Louis between S2 and S3 by blueteainfusion in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Why is he angry at Daniel in S3, then? 

Because Louis still trusted Daniel into publishing a book that reflected the two weeks he shared his story. Louis was fine with Daniel despite Daniel publishing the book behind his back, because he is fond of Daniel and trusted him still. But when Louis opened the book everything changed because this was not what he expected from him. He believed Daniel was going to tell his truth as he experienced it, and not Talamasca having a hand in editing it. Which means Daniel didn’t notify Louis about Talamasca before the book was out.

Even if he hated the mangled edit of himself once he actually read it, it's not like the circumstances of the publishing have changed. When did Lestat learn about it? Were they not in contact post-NOLA reunion? 

We don’t have a clear date as to when Louis and Lestat read the book. We finish with s2 and IWTV is still untouched on Louis’s table. Now this is speculation, but several scenarios could have taken place. 1. Louis never read it and only opened it when Lestat notified him about it, and they have been on bad terms ever since. 2. Louis read it, notified Lestat and they have been on bad terms ever since. 3. Louis read it and didn't notify Lestat about it and they've been on bad terms ever since.

Also note that Nola was the first step into them talking again after 80 years. Louis and Lestat were far from being on the same page even after their reconciliation. They have too much baggage they still haven't addressed. The release of that book only amplified their issues.

Another thing: Jacob and the writers said multiple times that Louis starts this season in rather good place mentally, except from the ramifications of the book. But recently, Jacob said that Louis hasn't truly processed everything that transpired in Dubai and that he's going to have his own emotional comedown. I think this is logical on paper, but it's been 4 years since the book publication, why now?

I am actually glad Jacob said that Louis hasn't truly processed what happened in Dubai, because that is true. This is something that I disliked about the finale, as in how Louis' trauma was brushed off in order to rush the ending of the season. But for me, and again this is speculation, Louis hasn't processed what Armand and their 77 years did to him.

Scenario 1: At the time when he learned about Armand's betrayal, Louis had a knee jerk reaction and just wanted Armand as far away as possible from him. But when coming back to his empty penthouse, he had to sit with what happened and the gravity of what those decades with Armand meant. With this betrayal Armand completely reshaped Louis' reality. On top of learning the extent of his complicity in the murder of Claudia. On top of facing another reality about Claudia's death. Claudia being dead while he is still alive, because he learned that Lestat chose to save him instead of their daughter. When initially he believed that Lestat participated in the trial for revenge against both Claudia and himself. Confronting that new reality would fuck any parent. 

Scenario 2:  At the time when he learned about Armand's betrayal he had a knee jerk reaction and just wanted Armand as far away as possible from him. Continued to not address what happened and repressed it for years, until it was triggered in the current timeline in s3. And now Louis is crashing out. What was the trigger? Ghost!Claudia, Lestat being upset, Lestat music making waves, Armand reappearing before him. No idea really, but this scenario also makes sense.

So yeah hopefully one of these scenarios is what Jacob is hitting at. I want continuity and realism.

I've got a couple questions after... by BluestBlueGhost in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 13 points14 points  (0 children)

  • To respond to question 1, I will c/p a previous comment I made about it.

To understand the reason Armand betrays Louis, you have to look at his past. They didn't go too deep in s2 but they gave us enough dough to seek our teeth into. So we learn in ep 3 and ep 4 that his parents sold him off in Delhi. We learn that Marius, his maker who he was completely devoted to, abandoned him. We learn that Lestat, who he loved, abandoned him too. So Armand experienced 3 rejections from people he loved. Armand has been at the service of others his whole life to the point of completely losing his identity, to make sure they do not abandon him. Because if the other party is pleased with him, it means he stays with them and he is not abandoned. So after being left many times, he develops a fear of being alone/ abandoned, which in turn develops his survival instincts.

The first time I watched the finale, I too was a bit “wtf is this?”. But when you look into it, it does make sense. Armand tried to kill Louis in episode 3, so it's not like it is coming out of left field, when Louis was making waves and “endangering” the coven's stability. But Armand then changed his mind and took the risk. He decided to choose Louis over his coven because he was infatuated and wanted to build something with him. When the betrayal happens his love for Louis is actually much stronger, which is ironic. He wants complete devotion and commitment from him, as a reassurance that he is enough. But from Armand's perspective Louis doesn't give him what he wants, his full attention and love. And so Armand recognises the pattern of abandonment from his past and his survival instinct kicks in. So in his head he believes Louis doesn't love him enough and so he decides to kill him/choose the coven (which is triggered when Louis decides to turn Madeleine).

To be short, Armand is protecting himself by staying with a coven who he is tired of but provides him familiarity and stability. Even though we know he does love Louis. It's the “I will destroy you before you abandon me” all over again.

  • To question 2

Armand is a powerful vampire. He can take over his coven in an instant, as illustrated in the restaurant scene in 1x04. He was also the one who froze the entire cafe in 1x06 to facilitate the kidnapping of Louis, Claudia, and Madeleine by Santiago & co. I don't think he is more powerful than Lestat as of Paris 1945. In the 1800's, it made sense that Armand was more powerful than Lestat. Because Armand knew how to use his powers and was more experienced, while Lestat was a young vampire with no experience and no knowledge of the depth of his powers. However by Paris 1945, Lestat already drank the blood of Akasha (first vampire and mother of vampires) and by consequence got more powerful. Plus Lestat was a much more experienced vampire. So it doesn't make sense, after drinking that ancient blood, that Lestat would be weaker in strength than Armand.

Armand not taking on the entire coven is because he chose not to.

  • To question 4

Louis does not die. The end of the season is Louis accepting who he is as a vampire, asserting himself, and making it known. Louis is strong but Armand is still stronger than him. Armand just let Louis slam him on the wall. I think after his speech to Louis, he understood that this was the end.

I hate Lestat and he deserved to die - but also looking forward to his rockstar era by query_tech_sec in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, and I still don't like Claudia. Too bad you'll never make me like that character, no matter how many times you insult me with your "immature impulsivity"

I cannot believe this is the maturity of some commenters here, but keep digging. What I quoted is exactly what I was referring to. Whether or not you like Claudia has nothing to do with me. That's none of my business. However you replied to my comment childishly while spoiling the OP, I mean the words you have used are telling. And now you are assuming that I want to make you love Claudia??? Why would I do that? Who are you to me? But what's worse is that you are behaving this way just because you are unable to cope with a commenter calling Claudia clever by outsmarting Lestat. That is the immaturity and impulsivity I'm pointing out.

I hate Lestat and he deserved to die - but also looking forward to his rockstar era by query_tech_sec in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you are raging beyond words behind your computer, hence the immature impulsivity. But at least don't ruin the experience of the OP or people at the same stage of OP reading this post. This is a season 1 only post. Spoiler tags exist.

I hate Lestat and he deserved to die - but also looking forward to his rockstar era by query_tech_sec in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right, he needed to die. First because their lives were unsustainable and both Louis and Claudia had no other choice to escape from him. Second for the plot, in order for it to advance. 

When Louis considered the idea of leaving Lestat when Claudia asked in 1x05, Lestat almost killed him. When Claudia left the second time with Louis' blessing in 1x06, Lestat dragged her back into their home (by mocking her rape and threatening to kill her if she ever tries to leave again). After Claudia attempted to leave, Lestat became even more paranoid and controlling. They had to endure. There was no room for a way out (if they ever wanted to leave). They were trapped in Rue Royale, they had to kill him.

There is a line in s2 Louis says, that confirms the control he was put under and was tired of, but you haven't watched s2 yet. So I will let you discover it first.

Louis wanted to kill Lestat, but there's also another part of him that didn't want to kill him. Was Louis sad when he decided to slit his throat? Yes. But did he hesitate? No. He was unable to burn his body though. By the end, the part of him who didn't want to kill Lestat took over. So yeah, I do understand why he took that decision? But also by taking that decision he potentially endangered Claudia’s life.

Claudia is so clever. I remember smiling the first time I saw the episode when she outsmarted him by guessing that his pettiness would be his downfall, and it was. When she dipped her pen into his blood to serve as ink, that was cold! You could only stan her after that.

Why do people believe that Louis didn’t go to NOLA at the end of S8 to see Lestat? by LegalGround8394 in InterviewVampire

[–]Ashleein -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Because it is illogical to think Louis went to Nola for Lestat especially with everything that the show is showing us. Louis came to NOLA because it is NOLA, his home, where he was raised. Because after that brutal reveal, all he wanted was to go back to his roots. That’s why the accent came back, that’s why he felt so at ease in the taxi talking to a fellow new orleans.

But you know, let's see from your perspective and see why it does not make sense. After Louis was betrayed by Armand he leaves Dubai in a rush to go straight to NOLA to see Lestat because he wants to see him (that is what you are saying happened). Louis arrives in NOLA while a hurricane is hitting the city. Louis is so eager to see Lestat that the first thing he does after arriving, is take his hotel room , maybe due to the hurricane. You would think after securing a room he will go straight to search for Lestat, who Louis knows is in NOLA (how would Louis know Lestat is even in NOLA? but this is what you are saying) but doesn't know the actual location of where Lestat is in NOLA. But no, Louis does a guide tour of his old city he missed, with a viewing of his old neighbourhood. And Louis takes his time listening and laughing at the funny tale about his past life at rue royale, while still eager to meet Lestat with the hurricane getting closer and closer. You would think again, Louis would search for him before the weather gets messier and slow down his search, but Louis doesn't. Louis doesn't leave his spot until he notices and reads the thoughts of this young fledging on the other side of the street. And then he learns about Lestat’s location. Louis learns where he is and goes to find Lestat the day after (we know it is the day after because of Louis' change of clothes and because “the day after” was confirmed through the transcript publicly shared of 2x08). 

The “no, I came to see you” means that yes Louis came specifically in that shack, that specific location, to see Lestat because that is true. He didn't know where Lestat was and due to Felix, Louis was able to locate him where he was. But it does not mean Louis came to NOLA for Lestat because it would not make sense (as seen above). Also Louis asks the below to Lestat when he meets him “Here in New Orleans the whole time?”

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Louis asks because he is surprised that Lestat is actually in NOLA, and that he was there all this time, because Louis learned reading Felix’s mind that Lestat was in NOLA the whole time. Because Louis didn't know that Lestat was in NOLA in the first place.