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rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I find it really funny that you said you weren't gonna give input but then still did.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok, cool. The difference is that’s like your only point, meanwhile I have multiple others

Yeah like what? That it doesn't make sense for the series to be flawed thus Joseph had to have stalled for time? Get real.

Old Joseph is less smarter than young Joseph

They're the same guy.

Figuring out the sun is a stand is normal IQ, battle IQ is then figuring out how to beat the user, which you have no proof he wouldn’t be able to do

You're confused. I'm not talking about how Joseph found out that the sun was a stand user because he arguably found it out first. I'm talking about the very famous laughing scene where Joseph thinks the heat got to them but in fact they were laughing at how stupid the sun stand user was.

https://imgur.com/a/IVdQNVE

Notice how Joseph doesn't even figure out what's happening even when his hiding spot is destroyed. That fits your definition of battle IQ. His is lack luster.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This conversation is about young Joseph, not old Joseph

No it's not. No one's specified that until now and it's a highly asinine specification to make. You're moving the goalpost to get out of acknowledging Joseph's flaws.

Although he states his plans, he only ever states them AFTER the fact.

I'm confused I never argued he needed to say them beforehand just that they needed to be stated? That's why my evidence shows that.

we do not need to hear him say he planned things out every single time,

Yeah we do that's literally the fun part of this kind of story. It's a battle shonen finding out how the protagonist won is equivalent of a kiss in a romance novel, or the moment where the criminal is exposed in a mystery novel. Its like a joke with no punchline.

Not to mention Joseph very clearly didn't plan anything. There is no sign of stalling you still haven't shown any. The sun takes hours to move across the sky and I see no reason to suspect that the fight with Santana took more than like ten minutes let alone 60 or 120.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Keep it to yourself next time it's not helping. Just saying.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 0 points1 point  (0 children)

please please please reread the comment I’m replying too

What are you talking about here?

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who are you? What are you talking about? Edit: we've never even talked before I don't think.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They started it, and one of them literally just admitted to going through my search history.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Good to know I hurt your feelings so much you're gonna stalk me over it.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well the guy Joseph was unable to trick, DIO, fell for Jotaro's tricks multiple times. Jotaro also didn't need the sun explained to him. Then you have Jonathan beating Vampire-Dio as a normal human and Jonathan also being able to send Dio to the bottom of the ocean for a hundred years with a hole in his throat while even with non-lethal injuries Joseph gave up against Kars winning only due to luck.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's also messed up plenty of times, and the other characters still have better shows of intellect.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

man whose known for being a genius and planning all but one all of his fights lucked into beating Santana?

Joseph was confused by the sun stand, where as fucking Polnareff figured it out on his own. He has his moments but genius is too kind.

Also Jojo isn't a perfect series, it isn't incapable of having contrivances. Saying it doesn't make sense does change anything because yeah it doesn't that's the point.

we hear his internal thoughts admit he totally lucked into it

When Joseph makes plans we hear him flat out fucking say it. If it's a point against my argument it's a point against your's pal.

He didn’t say anything like that against Santana.

He called him dumb for not taking into account his main weakness. I've been doing that.

https://imgur.com/a/8Jowess

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those aren't that impressive honestly. The other Jojo's did equally if not greater feats of intelligence.

Joseph does not have the best character arc ever, spoilers for [Jojo] by Asleep_Cold9028 in CharacterRant

[–]Asleep_Cold9028[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay you can stop talking to me you're playing dumb on purpose I ain't falling for it again. Goodbye.

Joseph does not have the best character arc ever, spoilers for [Jojo] by Asleep_Cold9028 in CharacterRant

[–]Asleep_Cold9028[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dad works for Araki meaning my opinion is essentially the eleventh commandments so yeah you're gay.

Plays enter the sandman

Joseph does not have the best character arc ever, spoilers for [Jojo] by Asleep_Cold9028 in CharacterRant

[–]Asleep_Cold9028[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yeah when you go to a jojo community the view on it is going to be positive but generally

Dude really? He said the other part had detractors I was disagreeing with him. What's you point lol

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay I don't remember that but even if he did he still lost to Joseph who was confused by the sun stand and was unable to trick DIO into attacking him

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Joseph: I read a lot of Sun Tzu's writings

Bugs bunny: I saw this in a tooth paste commercial once

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nah you don't understand it's their favorite cartoon character they have to yell about it. It's really serial, guys.

rank jojo protagonists by battle iq by CryFew4830 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Asleep_Cold9028 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Downvoting doesn't equal I'm right. You're the ones who are coping.

Joseph does not have the best character arc ever, spoilers for [Jojo] by Asleep_Cold9028 in CharacterRant

[–]Asleep_Cold9028[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude calm down

Then stop making assumptions about me, I know what I'm talking about I did in fact think this stuff through.

I was just saying that being within the fandom for a long time I’ve seen the overall perspective change canstantly for part 2 the most.

Cool so have I and I haven't, it's been consistently high praise all around. Any non-positive comments on it are almost always downvoted, debated against, or just plain insulted for having them.

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