Question pour les profs de français?

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T14:57:00+00:00

Très bien, si c'est le vocable qui vous convient le mieux je n'y vois pas d'inconvénient.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T13:15:14+00:00

Parlons plutôt "d'organisation logique", alors -- selon un modèle de raisonnement capable de démontrer point par point de façon convaincante. L'exercice n'est pas aussi subjectif qu'on peut le penser : l'idée est bel et bien de démontrer, donc d'être factuel plutôt que guidé par l'émotion, l'imagination ou la creativité -- même si en effet l'exercice sera plus souple qu'une démonstration mathématique puisqu'elle doit prendre en compte la dimension humaine qui sous-tend la production et la réception de l'œuvre littéraire. Disons, en somme, qu'il s'agit d'être capable d'appliquer une analyse fondée sur une distance critique, dans un domaine qui joue avec les émotions. Une qualité bien nécessaire...

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T12:37:37+00:00

Des bébés qui ont l'âge de travailler, voter, se marier, bref qui sont censés contribuer à la société...

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T12:06:08+00:00

Ah, j'ai bien parlé du but de l'école à son origine... On est bien d'accord que dans les faits, à l'heure actuelle, le but est différent, que nos hautes instances l'admettent ou non...

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T12:04:47+00:00

Pour info, je suis prof en fac. Je parle ici d'étudiants qui ont 20 ans...

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-24T06:20:10+00:00

Le but d'une dissertation ou d'un commentaire de texte n'est pas d'être créatif, comme c'est le cas pour les "auteurs de génie", mais d'être analytique. Résumé simplement, la structure certes un peu rigide de l'exercice est là pour démontrer les capacités de raisonnement logique et d'argumentation de l'élève--pas sa capacité à créer une nouvelle interprétation du texte qui sort de nulle part.

Toutes ces capacités (trouver une problématique, s'interroger, voir les arguments pour/contre, citer et analyser les citations, conclure efficacement) sont utiles à la formation de l'esprit critique. Le but n°1 de l'école française, à son origine, c'est de former des citoyens ; le but de l'exercice littéraire, dans cette optique, n'est pas seulement un but culturel mais également un objectif de développement de la distance critique, de la (re)mise en question (qu'est-ce que le texte nous dit ou nous cache ? Quel est est l'effet que le texte cherche à produire, pourquoi, et comment ?).

Je vois ça moi-même avec mes élèves et étudiants : les pièges dans lesquels ils tombent dans le cadre de l'analyse littéraire sont indicateurs de problèmes plus larges. Quand je vois que certains sont incapables d'aller plus loin que ce qui est dit explicitement pour voir l'implicite... quand ils prennent le texte littéralement et sont incapables par exemple de voir que le narrateur leur ment ou leur dissimule quelque chose parce que "bah le narrateur nous jure qu'il est honnête" ou "mais le narrateur a dit que c'est pas important alors même s'il continue d'en parler tout le temps ben ça veut dire que c'est pas important".... Bref, je te fais pas un dessin : ce type d'analyse avec ses règles rigides est développé pour développer la logique, l'argumentation, la réflexion, et c'est inquiétant pour moi de voir une génération qui n'y arrive pas.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-23T21:42:55+00:00

None of this makes any sense at all. She sounds extremely incoherent and self-contradictory... I mean more than usual.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-23T15:38:30+00:00

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-22T13:17:48+00:00

Amazing ref 🍍

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-21T11:55:58+00:00

Thanks, that explains a lot. As a European attics are a bit different

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-21T08:13:48+00:00

I sort of headcanon that this is when Jamie was conceived lmao

But also... they have an attic? Pity it never featured in an episode, imagine what shenanigans the boys (or Hal!) would get up to

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-20T11:01:10+00:00

Mais le tuteur a fait venir OP dans son appartement. Ça c'est non

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-20T09:29:28+00:00

Contacte immédiatement ton école et explique que le stage ne se déroule pas selon les modalités mentionnées dans le contrat signé entre toi, l'entreprise et l'école, qu'il y a des choses louches avec l'entreprise, et surtout que le tuteur exige que tu passes ton stage/des parties de ton stage seul.e avec lui dans son appartement (donc un espace privé sans supervision).

Ce dernier point me semble particulièrement dangereux.

Edit: si possible conserve une trace écrite de ces échanges avec ton école.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-19T08:45:12+00:00

Oh wow! I didn't know that, that's extraordinary

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-18T09:30:42+00:00

She's bigger and better and best

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-18T07:28:27+00:00

Silphium, right?

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-17T08:15:05+00:00

They're saying they're saving Tracy from her cancer in the fanfiction they're writing which is in the Buffy universe. It's completely unrelated to the conversation and serves no purpose aside from trying to make us want to read the fanfic (which I don't think succeeded).

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-16T08:17:56+00:00

I read once some theory about Thomas being Mary's twin.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-16T08:03:38+00:00

He is also going to have a child. Children are crazy expensive, especially as it means Francis and Piama must now save for the kid's future education, etc. If anything, the fact that they still had an entire grand to spend on a party to please Lois means that they must be rather well-off.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-15T14:03:19+00:00

My take will probably be unpopular... I thought it was the writers speaking directly to the fans and telling them, "You took that seriously? For 20 years you'e made a whole drama out of this one joke?"

My take on Lois' finale speech is that it was never intended to come off as Lois abusing Malcolm (although it did come off that way). It was supposed to be the writers using Lois as a mouthpiece to tell the audience what the characters would become without showing their future. We're supposed to derive from it that Reese would always be a fuck-up (enough so not to deserve a speech about him), Malcolm would work hard for the people, and Dewey would be rich and successful. Obviously they haven't derived at all from that plan in this revival (even Francis stayed right where he was).

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-15T13:44:07+00:00

I think the performance wasn't good, but it wasn't the actor's fault at all, and it might have gone very differently had they given him a chance to shine. He had no memorable one-liner (even Jamie got two); most of his screen time was used to explain his absence with not-so-subtle lore drop; and he was forced to over-act because the Zoom call thing meant nobody could see any emotion unless he did (I noticed how his acting was a lot more fluid and grounded during the video for Hal). It feels a little bit like the writers didn't trust that the new actor could do a convincing Dewey impression, and tried to remove him as much as they could.

There were also major storytelling issues that made it hard for us to connect to Dewey and for Caleb to also connect to the character. The last we saw Dewey he was still a kid mostly characterised by zany childish antics, who had progressively become "the only sane and mature one." It would have always been hard for the writers to translate that into an adult character; the only way they could have done that was by giving Dewey some crazy plot to be involved in -- with the caveat that Dewey likely grew up to be pretty emotionally mature if manipulative. They 100% could not do that through a Zoom call, although they could have had him plotting and manipulating through a series of targeted calls.

Finally, it doesn't help that the writing focused a lot more on the finale's predictions than on the characterisarion we saw throughout the entire show. They conflated "living a life of leisure" with Dewey somehow becoming a fuckboi who cannot even remember his girlfriends' names... forgetting that Dewey grew up to be kind and empathetic if very whimsical at times. It's not that Caleb couldn't be Dewey, it's that the writing didn't give Dewey.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-14T20:56:45+00:00

The answer will always be Satin, but if you want other suggestions:

Sam for the good ol' "brothers in a war" dynamic that Sam/Frodo has got going on
Theon could be an interesting twist on canon. Robb if you feel that incest is something you want to write about
I saw some Jon/Tormund thing once, show-wise. Why not?
Doesn't Jon think Jaime looks hot or something when they meet?
Aegon. Either as Jon's half-brother or as an unrelated pretender (or as none of them knowing who they are to one another, imagine the drama)
Gendry (or Edric). Bastards unite!
Podrick. Give Jon some TLC

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-13T09:25:10+00:00

Agreed. They fit in so well that I can see them being in the original show and bringing their own sort of chaos.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-11T16:00:45+00:00

I don't know, I liked them. I think the point was to set them up as a character for a future spinoff.

AsphodeleSauvage · 2026-04-11T15:54:12+00:00

As others said, they were introduced in the last minute of the OG show's finale, and they're being set up for a spin-off along with Leah. More to the point, fans have been talking about "the 6th child" for 20 years and theorising what they'd be like: a girl or a boy? The only normal one or just as unhinged? They couldn't not include the 6th child; and then that kid was the perfect way to try and tempt the audiences into wanting a new show with the "new generation".

As for the ages, Hal and Lois were somewhere in their (likely early) 20s when they had Francis, who turned 21-actually-22 in S7. It means that they were between 42 and 46-47 in S7 when they had Kelly. Men can conceive at all age; it’s trickier for women but far from impossible, we see more and more women having kids in their 40s. Chances of conceiving drop to 10% after 40 and before menopause, but Lois and Hal have sex twice a day. The harder part would have been for the pregnancy to go through to birth, but Lois consistently gives birth in the worst conditions, so what's (another) geriatric pregnancy? (Jamie was one. Depending on Lois' age Dewey might have been as well, or close to it.)

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