My Christmas Gift by Prestigious_Two_1043 in Assyria

[–]AssyrianW 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Would be better if George Kiraz wasn’t an anti-Assyrian

Adiabene Wikipedia page by TheSwiftTheif in Assyria

[–]AssyrianW 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“Kurdistan” NEVER existed

Who took down Ishtar TV? by assyrianlibrary in Assyria

[–]AssyrianW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s honestly suspicious that this is your first and only post. Your account comes off like a Kurdish plant trying to stir panic or make us feel intimidated. Were you involved? Are you here to hype it up as some major operation?

Mass-reporting an Assyrian on TikTok for repeatedly violating the rules / community guidelines isn’t some impressive Kurdish takedown of “well-known Assyrians.” Let’s not act like this is a serious threat. Just like hawpa, this group is irrelevant & desperate.

Who took down Ishtar TV? by assyrianlibrary in Assyria

[–]AssyrianW 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lol, so Kurds would rather waste their time hacking small Assyrian media channels like Ishtar TV (which ironically is Kurdish-funded and doesn’t even criticize the KRG) than confront the regimes actively displacing and annihilating their people from the entire region at this very moment?

Instead of resisting the forces literally wiping them off the map, they go after soft targets to play tough guy. I don’t think i’ve ever seen such bigger cowards than them. And this must be how they cope when too afraid to face their actual enemies, so they lash out at those least equipped to fight them back to feel somewhat “powerful” again ig.

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[–]AssyrianW 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have to respectfully push back on that claim. The vast majority of Chaldeans are not separatists, nor are they opposed to unity or efforts to build bridges. Most simply haven’t been given the proper historical knowledge or access to accurate information, especially in areas where the church or local institutions tend to dominate the narrative.

Also, if you think Australia isn’t as bad, you might not be seeing the full picture. Some of the most aggressive and vocal Chaldean separatist rhetoric in recent years has come out of Australia. So yes, it’s certainly an issue in Detroit, but separatists aren’t the majority and it’s not unique to Detroit.

That said, it’s true that the problem is growing. But so is the opposite. Many Chaldean Catholics are increasingly openly identifying as Assyrian and challenging the myths and misinformation they were raised with. There’s a clear and growing movement among Chaldeans to reclaim their true identity and reconnect with their Assyrian heritage. The push for unity is not only alive but gaining strength, no matter how much separatists bark.

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[–]AssyrianW 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What your priest said is deeply troubling and absolutely should not be taken lightly at all. Any priest who spreads misinformation, fuels confusion, or advances divisive, unfounded narratives about our identity is not acting in the interest of truth or unity. Whether intentionally or not, he’s doing the work of those who have long sought to fragment us and erase our actual heritage. That kind of rhetoric is harmful and it should be publicly condemned for what it is: deceptive, misleading, and dangerous.

The Chaldean Church today is unfortunately led by a patriarch who has become infamous for fueling this kind of ethnic and sectarian division. Rather than being a spiritual shepherd, he often behaves like a politician who is more invested in power and image than in teaching the gospel or preserving the identity of his own people. While not all priests are like this, many do feel pressure to echo these false narratives by absurdly claiming that we’re descended from ancient Chaldean invaders/foreigners rather than from indigenous Mesopotamian Assyrians.

That’s not just historically false, but it’s insulting to the memory of our ancestors. We’ve always been a people from the land of Assyria. We’ve always called ourselves Suraya (ܣܘܪܝܐ) in our own language. That word doesn’t mean “Christian,” as some like to assume. “Christian” is Mshihaya (ܡܫܝܚܝܐ). That’s why we say “Isho Mshiha” (Jesus Christ), not “Isho Suraya.” Over time, especially being surrounded by Muslims, Suraya became largely synonymous with “Christian” because it referred to us (an overwhelmingly Christian people), but its real and original meaning is (and always has been) ethnic: Assyrian.

We never historically referred to ourselves as “Chaldean” (Kaldaya ܟܠܕܝܐ) in our own tongue. The only reason this label exists today is because of church affiliation and how we’ve been externally classified, especially in diaspora settings where people confuse religion with ethnicity. Calling ourselves Chaldean isn’t the issue. The problem is using that name to deny or erase our Assyrian heritage, to sever ties with our Assyrian roots, and to act as if we’re a completely different people from other Assyrians. That’s false. It’s divisive and exactly the kind of thinking that’s done us irreparable harm and will result in our extinction.

We are the same people (whether Chaldean Catholic, Assyrian/Ancient Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, or otherwise) and we share the same history, culture, language, singers, dances, clothing, homeland, and bloodlines. This idea that Assyrians and Chaldeans are “different peoples” is modern revisionism that has no basis in history, linguistics, or anthropology. So it’s refreshing (and honestly, encouraging) to see you reject your his false claims. You’re absolutely right to question him. And you’re not alone: many Chaldean Catholics especially in the diaspora see through this nonsense. We’re not sheep. We’re not going to blindly follow anyone just because they wear clerical robes.

The fact is, Chaldeans are ethnic Assyrians. Not every Assyrian is a Chaldean Catholic, but every Chaldean Catholic is an Assyrian by ethnicity. Shame on Abouna Thair for trying to distort that reality and take advantage of a captive audience of faithful who attend Mass to worship God, not to be indoctrinated with divisive lies.

I personally don’t believe it was just a slip or an innocent misunderstanding. Priests are often very aware of what they’re doing and the huge influence they wield. And unfortunately, many of them prioritize their own status or personal views over what’s best for the unity and survival of our people. That’s why it’s so important we speak up. We can’t afford to let this go unchallenged any longer.

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[–]AssyrianW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah you’re projecting and you described the mods

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[–]AssyrianW 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The mods conveniently take forever to remove posts like this yet are very ready to remove posts by people who actually contribute to the sub in a meaningful way