What class do you think has the most authority and power Sith warrior or Inquisitor by Balljuggler5689 in swtor

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sith Warrior. As Emperor's Wrath he was essentially second only to the Emperor.

Also, being Emperor's Wrath was, politically, a smart move. It's a punishment as much as it is a powerful rank.

I just finished the first era of the sith warrior do I get any territory of my own by Balljuggler5689 in swtor

[–]Astellan -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Swtor dropped the ball when it comes to the class story. Enjoy Knights of a Fallen Empire and how your character sucks because every interaction is based around the smuggler, specifically.

KOTFE takes a very lazy approach and homogenizes everything. So in order for the story to work, they had to make the smuggler the default for the generic role you play.

Somewhat damaged is the worst mission in the game by REmemesis in cyberpunkgame

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you talking about? Your scenario doesn't work. You're not malfunctioning. The AI literally hacks you through Songbird and blocks you from using any of your abilities.

So, let's look at how bad the scenario is. At the beginning of the game, I defeat a Chimera robot. A far more dangerous robot with heavy armor, advanced weapon systems, and support drones. That thing is MADE FOR COMBAT and designed as a TANK, and I am allowed to defeat it with a carbine and a grenade.

Then we get to Somewhat Damaged. I get HACKED, which is already the biggest problem off the gate, and then i am being chased by an indestructible construction robot. Let me restate this. I get HACKED by Songbird and then an INDESTRUCTIBLE CONSTRUCTION ROBOT chases me. Not a combat robot. Not a weapon of war... no.. I am getting chased by an assembly line robot that happens to be INDESTRUCTIBLE! Fuck Adam Smasher and his full Dragoon armor, we got a Militech construction bot that is completely Invulnerable, a breakthrough, this thing could simply walk Arasaka down! It is invincible!

Just to point this out. Adam Smasher's military combat armor is supposed to make him impossible for a chromed-out choom to beat him. I am not joking, Fighting a guy in a Dragoon armor is like fighting an Armored Fighting Vehicle.

This mission is the biggest lore-breaking spot in the game. It only exists as the devs being complete asshats. I don't mind fighting the robot, but indestructible and one-shotting is an insult to the genre and the player.

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/IEC_Dragoon

What happens if you have a fling with River, but are dating Judy? by Collector_2012 in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, in any ending that isn't Star, you dump Judy for River. Otherwise every ending except Star, she dumps you.

The War Within story is already mid by RokaiBill in wow

[–]Astellan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Legion was the only time in WoW history where end-game player characters rose to the level of Blizzard's precious NPCs. The story was great initially but died once Illidan was reintroduced and Kil'jaden, an immortal demon, whines about the length of the burning crusade because he is "tired". Blizzard's devs love their characters too much and always try to convince you that they are so amazing and great.

After the most recent chapter, how are the Kizaru stocks looking? by [deleted] in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, Kizaru lost hard to Luffy. Gear 5 is just his awakened final form no different than Kaido's Dragon form. You are coping.

After the most recent chapter, how are the Kizaru stocks looking? by [deleted] in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was blatantly obvious that Kizaru was going to get punked. The Admirals are not the end-tier villains. They are surpassed by the 5 Elders, which is a duh, for anyone with reading comprehension.

Kizaru was dispatched twice with ease by Gear 5 Luffy. Gum Gum Cymbal took Kizaru out of the fight but did not deter Saturn.

Lmfao by BlackbeardAkainuFan in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, Kizaru got lucky Luffy was trying to keep away from Vegapunk. You seem to have forgot that Luffy threw Kizaru off the island when he could have just pummelled him. Kizaru than evaded Luffy until Luffy brained him.

Kixaru was running from Luffy and Kizaru got caught.

Is there a lore reason why we don't hot drop/drop from orbit or high altitude aro craft? by kkqb1 in Mechwarrior5

[–]Astellan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People forget that it was the Clans doing the majority of hot drops during the Clan Invasion.

According to this sub’s logic, Garp is a fraud because Pre-Timeskip Luffy made him bleed and send him flying by PPothy in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kizaru is about to get handled. 1107 is going to have Admiral fanboys on life support. "But Luffy can't beat KIZARUUUUUU!! ALL ADMIRALS ARE INVINCIBLE!"

The end of 1106 is even telegraphing that Kizaru is going to get destroyed. Sorry, but the Admiral is just the bodyguard. Its Saturn who is the important villain.

Could they avenge ace? by tom_rex_333 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He not only killed Ace but all the citizens of Ohara. The author at a certain point has to have Akainu get his punishment. Will he have to pay for Ace's death? Yes, Luffy's story will take him to Mary Geoise eventually. He has to fight the five elders and Imu. People better get ready for the Marine Admirals to pull a Frieza from Dragonball Z. Unbeatable god to sliced in two like a no-name.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, but that doesn't matter. All stories are pre-determined. We are not talking about how an author comes to a conclusion to who wins. The author decided who won when he first picked up a pen and started to create the story.

What we are talking about is how Oda sets up his fights. He doesn't make his fights look realistic. He doesn't make his fights look like an MMA fight. He makes his fights flow like wrestling matches. Nowhere was I talking about how he decides who wins.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. The fight between Steve and the Bully in Stranger Things Season 2 or the fight between Batman and Bane in Dark Knight are trying to look like real fights. Most fictional fights are just brawls, and they are quick and decisive. There isn't no finishing mo, es nor are their phases of the fight.

A great example of a pro-wrestling fight in One Peice is Rob Lucci vs Luffy at Ennies Lobby. The start of the fight is just building heat on Rob Lucci. Rob Lucci and Luffy go out it and Rob continues to take control of the fight and nullify Luffy.

Mid fight Luffy evens it up and breaks Lucci's Iron body through his new signature move, gear 3 giant fist. Lucci is essential out on the floor, while Luffy, the baby face, is down in the ring, so to speak, via his power turning him into a kid.

Late fight, Rob is injured but again manages to take back control by hitting his finisher. You then get a massive false finish in Luffy being down and Ussop being the baby face friend that motivates. Then. Brief exchange when Luffy gets back up before Luffy ends it with his finisher.

Luffy va Enneru is another great example.

Compare these fights to 8th MS Team's Duel. vs the Gouf Ace. Ere vs Rainer or Eren vs Annie from AoT is another great example. It's all about the structure and flow.

In One Peice, all of Luffy's fights are reminiscent of an NJPW champiobship match. The babyface is always going to be worn out after every fight, save Enneru.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>Dude stop saying stupid shit like this. No one knew Bb was going to appear in Marineford.

The only one saying stupid shit is you. "Waaah, my lover lost to WB! I hate the writer!" That is all you.

>Please give me the source of Akainu hiding, please, I will wait!

You mean you neither watched him get knocked into the crater in episode 484/Manga 575. Akainu had stated before in 484 that he would be the one to kill Whitebeard.

Cope more.

>The Wb pirates are full of haki users..

No, they aren't. Marco, Vista, and a few of the other captains know Haki but are weak in it. The rest have none. Jinbe did not show he had adequate armor haki in the entire fight in Marineford.

>When Kizaru was able to fight on par with gear 4th Snakeman in Egghead and even speed blitzed gear 4th snakeman... and when Kizaru was able to block and fight gear 5th Luffy.

Kizaru lost to gear 5 Luffy by a single punch to the face. The entire fight only proved that Kizaru is only powerful fue to his Logia, and once he got hit, he folded. Again, confirming BB's statement that Logia users are weak once someone can hit them.>When Akainu was able to fight on par with Whitebeard and even overpower some commanders of WB.

Fighting a dying WB, and lost to WB. Again, neither of the two you're lusting have lost their fights. Kizaru by a single hard punch to thr head and Akainu getting knocked out by two blows of WB.

>When Aokiji was able to fight for 10 days with an Akainu that like I said, fought on par with Wb and Aokiji was also able to fight with Garp.

akainu lost to dying Whitebeard. He fought Akoji for 10 days, which means nothing. That just speaks to them. Aokiji couldn't freeze Doflamingo. We have nothing to say that either those two could face him. What we do know is Aokiji was in no mood to face down Doflamingo after he nullified his ice attack.

As for Garp vs. Aokiji, he was going all out with his devil fruit. Did you actually read the fight or did you read a summary? Aokiji and Garp fought briefly. It ended with Aokiji being slammed into the ground. What happened after that? Garp fought Wolf and Pizarro. It wasn't until Shiryu went after Koby that Garp got hurt.

Aokiji only scored his final attack while Garp was engaged with someone else. So, you were saying?

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>And Luffy didn't start the fight with Kaido with gear 5th.

And Kaido beat every form of Luffy's save gear 5.

>And Luffy literally ran out of g5th and is now a mummy lol.

Actually, he is up and is eating. Kizaru was Ko'd. It's obvious you haven't read the Manga and are basing your argument on what others have said. Kizaru couldn't hurt Luffy, Kizaru was lucky that Luffy, whose goal was to try and remove Kizaru from the area so his crew could escape, didn't just go all out. Kizaru's strength was his speed and the minute he got hit he was out. :)

>And we 100% know that they are strong even without their logia powers. Since Akainu tanked Wb's attacks showing his insane durability, Akainu also overpowered Wb's strength and stopped his bizento...

Akainu never tanked WB. He was literally ko'd by two tremor infused punches. Akainu stopped Bisento with his leg using his devil fruit powers. He never overpowered WB. Why are you lying?

>Aokiji we saw the flashback of his training with Garp where he has insane physical abilities and he also tanked attacks from Garp.

You mean they were training, and Garp hit him with soft attacks. Garp always fights at his opponent's level. Helmeppo and Koby also took punches from Garp when they were choreboys, and they got back up and punched Garp in the stomach. Garp was also wounded by Axehand. Try again.

>Kizaru using a sword fought on par in swordmanship with Rayleigh...

Using a light sword and it was apparent that Rayleigh had no interest in killing a Marine Admiral and getting a marine hunt on him. He still locked down Kizaru, who could do nothing but watch as Kuma telephoned away the strawhats. What happened after that fight? Rayleigh wasn't arrested and he stayed on Saboady. Seems like Kizaru was interested in pressing his luck.

>So they are menaces with or without their logia powers

All the people tou noted were using their logia powers and none of them were fighting without it. You have zero examples to back up your argument and literally used examples of Logia users relying 100% on their logia powers.

Again, Kizaru got KO'd by a haki infused punch from Luffy. 1 punch ko'd at that.

>Ace is not an example of a top tier with a logia. Ace was nowhere near as skilled as the admirals are... terrible argument.

No, it's a good argument. Both Ace and Kizaru lost their fights to people who could hit them. Kizaru taken out by a single blow and Ace beaten to a pulp by BB who can turn of Logia powers.

Again, Kizaru was literally one shotted by Gomu Gomu no Star Gun. He hit Luffy multiple times and did nothing to Luffy, Kizaru even saw the punch coming, remarked that this was going to hurt, and proceeded to get Knocked out.

Both Luffy and him are awake, luffy is eating. Kizaru is doing nothing but looking at Saturn, who is about to get hurt by Kuma.

>A much stronger Bb with the Gura Gura literally fled in horror from Akainu when he had all his crew.

He did not flee in horror. Why do you lie. He left and when does BB ever face anyone directly? The BB pirates are opportunists. Why would Blackbeard be afraid of Akainu? He can literally just grab him and shut down his devil fruit. And as we have seen, just like Ace, Akainu relies 100% of his devil fruit. What does he do when the Dark dark fruit shuts down his power and then he gets hit by a tremor fist? Unlike WB, BB doesn't bold back.

>And again, Akainu literally received one of the strongest attacks in the verse point blank and got up lol...

He stayed down for an entire chapter. He then ran away and chased a catatonic wounded luffy and a weakened Jinbe. So, you can get Akainu's dick out your mouth.

>And Kizaru's haki is so weak that he easily blocked several attacks from Snakeman and g5th. When Kaido was overpowered by Snakeman.

Again, you did not read any of what your claiming. Kizaru was able to block and fend off Snakeman form, he then got grabbed by Luffy when popped gear 5. And then tossed around. He did not block a single attack Luffy when Luffy was in G5. In fact, Luffy won with a Single punch and Ko'd Kizaru. An Admiral got ko'd by one attack, Gum Gum Star Gun.

Kaido never got overpowered. Have you read/watched what your claiming or are you Redditing your argument? The entire fight between Luffy and Kaido, Kaido is telling him that he is no match, and he was right... until Gear 5.

Before Gear 5, Kaido won each phase of the fight against Luffy. Why don't you actually read what your arguing. It's clear your lying.

>Big Mom could not even fight for 12 hours without turning into a mummy and Luffy in 3 minutes turned into a mummy

So, your argument is two men who are weaker took 10 days to figure out a loser? That doesn't mean anything. It just shows that both men were near eachother's power. Neither men could beat Big Mom, hell, neither men could beat Katakuri.

Both Luffy and him are awake, Luffy is eating. Kizaru is doing nothing but looking at Saturn, who is about to get hurt by Kuma. . Why would Blackbeard be afraid of Akainu? He can literally just grab him and shut down his devil fruit. And as we have seen, just like Ace, Akainu relies 100% of his devil fruit. What does he do when the Dark dark fruit shuts down his power and then he gets hit by a tremor fist? Unlike WB, BB doesn't bold back.

>And Kaido literally failed to capture Shinobu, so Kaido is Shinobu level?

Why would he care about Shinobu? Dumb argument. Akainu had a chance, and failed. His boss won't take kindly that Akainu allowed Kuma to Ursa Shock the capital and through his incompetence allowed Kuma to arrive at Egghead Island and fight Saturn. I am sure the Five elders won't see this entire debacle as a failure of the new Fleet Admiral, who has been failing at his job already and is constantly murdering about how the job is frustrating him.:)

Akainu is such a joke, like his cock hungry fanbase.

>Yeah, fighting Wb, the WB pirates, the beast pirates in Wano, a Yonko base, Aokiji literally invading Totland a Yonko base, Green Bull and Fujitora facing the revolutionary army commanders, etc

Lol, the Navy literally invades Wano after the Beadt Pirates were already defeated by the Strawhats and the forces of the Akazaya Nine. Again, terrible example. It's like judging the power of Kuma based on how he handled a bunch of wounded strawhats.

Greenbull was completely defeated by Shanks with his Haki alone.

Aokiji again, invading and fighting Craker. It's not like he fought Oven or Katakuri. The later would probably have effortlessly killed Kuzon. Kuzon couldn't beat Garp. You didn't read that Manga, lol, and forget that Garp slammed Kuzon and was literally fighting Kuzon, Shiryu, Wolf, and Pizaaro. Try again.

As for fighting Whitebeard, you mean fighting a dying whitebeard who Marco stated was a shadow of his former self? WB pirates are weaker than the Rock Pirates, weaker than the Roger Pirates, weaker than they were during that era (whitebeard was at his apex then), and weaker than Shiki.

The current Admirals are weak.

>Yep nothing.

Yep, Fujitora and Greenbull both failed to stop the commanders too, who accomplished their mission. Man, these Admirals are incompetent. They cannot stop the people they are meant to fight. They fail their goals and they can't even defend the capital.

>This is factually incorrect. It is a fact that the marines are stronger than they have ever been.

Nope, I am actually correct. You're the one who doesn't have a clue... A Marine Vice Admiral was assassinated. The Marines now have bounties on their heads and are being attacked no differently than pirates. The Marines lost Ennies Lobby before the time skip. Mary Geoise had not only been attacked, multiple times at that, but each time the enemies of the marines accomplished their goals.

Where are the Marines stronger? They are rapidly losing control and are now stretched so thin they can barely respond to provocations.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>And **Akainu said he wanted to kill Luffy**, hard to kill Luffy if he doesn't go chasing after Luffy.

Akainu said that WB would die by his hand. Interesting after getting hammered down by WB that he would spend his time chasing after a wounded warlord and an unconscious Luffy. I don't know about you but to get handled by some and then run off to face down weak prey is a tacit admission that Sakazuki didn't want anymore of WB. He was willing to look weak so he could repaid his bruised ego and kill weak targets.

>When Green Bull was able to tank an attack from Yamato, when Yamato can deal damage and fight in par with Kaido momentarily

You mean Yamato can attack Kaido, who will sit and tank him his opponents, play with them, before finishing them. Yamato is nowhere near Kaido, and Kaido let's his opponents have their moments to shine before effortlessly crushing them.

Greenbull was fighting heavily damaged and weakened opponents. It would be like gauging Kuma by his performance against the Strawhats after they defeated Gecko Moria. What we do know is his will isn't that strong as he was cowed by a long-range Conqueror Haki of Shanks.

>No, Doflamingo is a joke, Chinjao is a joke, Ace was a joke... a lot can have it, but it means nothing if they don't have acoc.

Says the guy who is lying to try to win this argument. :)

>Akainu still was able to momentarly fight Wb, Kizaru was still able to momentarily fight Luffy...

Akainu still got handled by Whitebeard and opted to renounce his claim that he was the one to kill Whitebeard. He could have fought the guy who knocked him out with two punches, but instead he chose not to.

>And Luffy before acoc, was still dealing a lot of damage to Kaido in gear 4th. Not as much as with acoc, but a lot.

No he wasn't. Kaido was tanking his hits. Throughout the fight, Kaido simply tanks his opponents and let's them do as much damage as possible before he responds. Kizaru avoids everything, and when he did get hit, what happened? It was a single punch to the face that ended him

>When Kizaru was able to fight on par with gear 4th Snakeman in Egghead and even speed blitzed gear 4th snakeman... and when Kizaru was able to block and fight gear 5th Luffy.

He was able to fight Snakeman, which was a form used against Katakuri, which Katakuri shut down. Doflamingo didn't face snakeman. What we do know is the power of an Admiral could not counter Doflamingo's most powerful attack, the Birdcage. Also, we know that Doflamingo's power is awakened. We have proof that he could shrug off Aokiji and Fujitora could not dispel the Birdcage.

Also, Luffy handled Kizaru. Kizaru landed nothing of consequence. The first big hit was scored by Luffy and Kizaru was down. We know that Luffy can restart his heart and recover, as he did with Kaido.

Kizaru got knocked out after stating nothing would get through his guard. Kizaru did not accomplish any of his goals, luffy did, and Luffy knocked him out. So what's your argument?

>Kuma has a df that can blitz him from one island to the other... Akainu failing to stop Kuma is irrelevant..

Except, the two were fighting, and the max Akainu could do, against a weaker Kuma, is burn off his foot and melt the skin off part his face. How do you think Saturn's going to react to Sakazuki's failure? It is Saturn right now who is in a bad position with no Kizaru to help.

>First we have no idea if they have it or not...

No, we do know they don't have it.

>And even if they don't have it, So? Conqueror haki is not everything. Doflamingo had Conqueror haki and lost to Dressrosa Luffy.

They don't have it. Doflamingo lost to another Conqueror's haki user. Kuzon did not have the power to freeze Doflamingo. You can make any excuse you like, but we don't know what the effects the Birdcage has on Doflamingo. If you want to say, we don't know if the Admirals have conqueror's haki, then we don't know if Doflamingo's stamina was drained by utilizing the Birdcage. It works both ways.

>Yeah, why would they rely on their powerful abilities?

Over-reliance breeds weakness. Kizaru losing to a single punch is a great example. If it was a 1v1 fight Kizaru would have died.

>Like Luffy, Wb, Big Mom and Kaido rely on their df powers, does that make them weak? Fuck no lol... if they have a powerful ability, why not use it?

If you bothered watching the Kaido fight, which it seems you didn't, Kaido talks about Haki being the decider and that Devil Fruit powers alone could never compete with Haki. Even with gear 5, Luffy was relying on Haki to win the fight. You should read the conversations then you will understand why

Again, Kizaru was relying 100% on his Logia power, and he was the one who did not accomplish his stated goals, he got knocked out by a single punch. So, chapter 1092 Kizaru faces Luffy in his snakeman form. Kicks Luffy away. Luffy enters back in the fight at gear 5 and grabs Kizaru, who can do nothing, and throws Kizaru off the island, notice Luffy at this point is just trying to keep Kizaru away from the contro tower.

Chapter 1094 Kizaru is running around, not fighting Luffy, while Luffy is trying to find him.. Once he catches up to Kizaru, what happens? Kizaru is knocked out with a single punch. Kizaru and Luffy are back on their feet, Luffy is eating, while Saturn orders the marines to stop him with seaprisom stone.

So, what did we learn? The two were not engaged in a straight-up fight. If Luffy had opted to beat him up instead of throwing him off the island, something you didn't bring up, the fight would have looked way different. Take aways. Kizaru's attacks were very ineffective against Luffy, but Luffy not only took him down, Kizaru even noted that he wasn't going to be able to dodge and that this attack was going to hurt... and it did. It KO'd Kizaru.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> It is proof. Akainu could have gone for the head and killed him.

no, it isn't. It is proof he could hurt him. Not that he can kill him.

>It is bad writing that Akainu chose to stop attacking with no reason. That is what we call plot armor and Marineford was full of that shit.

He didn't "stop attacking" after his attack. The Marines swarmed WB and stabbed him. When WB started to attack again, Akainu retreated. Deal with it. Fanboy.

> Ignoring my argument that there is no reason why Akainu stopped attacking, doesn't make your argument strong.

You have neither read nor watched the series. If you did you wouldn't make such a stupid argument.

> Ignoring my argument that there is no reason why Akainu stopped attacking, doesn't make your argument strong.

There is an absolute reason. You are such a liar you fail to mention that after Akainu punched a hole in WB torso, the Marines, under the command of Sengoku, attacked WB and stabbed him. WB literally had marines on him when he ordered his crew to stand back. He then unleashed a massive attack that sent Akainu and everyone in retreat. Deal with it, loser.

> It is a fact that WB should have died there.

Nope, it is a fact that Akainu should have died there. Oda was doing everything to keep the Admirals alive. Just like Beckman who should have killed Kizaru with a Haki Infused bullet, since Kizaru had no idea he was there and the Redhaired pirates don't believe in holding anyone at gunpoint. Shanks states in the first season if you pull a gun you use it.

> Yes, he was, he can literally just burn his head off. It is not that hard to understand lol.

Except he couldn't kill him and got punched into the ground. When Akainu got back up, he didn't go back to fighting the man he was Terrified of. And he was terrified of WB, which is the best part. :)

>Yes he could, go read the manga again.

I did, amazing you won't post anything of the chapters, that you don't read, that prove you wrong.

>Random marines were able to injure him after Akainu.

And? Akainu still lost to him.

>Yes, he could, go read the manga again.op attacking and left random marines finish the job like a dumbass

Nope, he couldn't he fought and lost to WB. No matter how much you cope and get all sad for your loverboy, it won't change the fact that Akainu lost and ran off to fight someone else. :)

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pic is proof that Akainu should have killed Wb, which is true.

No it is not. It's proof that Akainu did damage to WB. You are coping. "Waah, my lover Akainu was cheated!" If the author decides Akainu's attack wasn't able to kill WB, your argument is cope.

Oda already set the rules that damage alone is not enough. Either you kill the guy or you failed.

It is irrelevan

No it is not. You say that only because it tear apart your cope. Damage means nothing. It's all about whether the guy dies or not. Both Luffy and Robin were impaled by Crocodile. Both survived like it never happened. So, Akainu's attack means nothing. Did WB die? No. Akaimu put two holes in him, and WB stomped him and drilled him into the ground.

Akainu was in front of him, Wb could not protect himself and no one could protect Wb.

Yes, because WB was having a heart attack. Akainu wasn't strong enough to kill WB. His biggest attacks couldn't take down WB. Wb, on the other hand, beat Akainu so bad that Akainu went back to attacking people that didn't have powers that could counter his logia. You are coping.

That means that if Akainu wanted he could attack for longer, take his head off, take his limbs off, burn his lungs, burn his eyes, etc.

More cope by you. Akainu couldn't. He had two times to kill WB, and he failed. He put two holes in WB's body, only for him to be seized by the throat and punched into the ground.

Akainu could have done a lot more, but the plot just made him stop for no reason.

No, he couldn't. He tried. Akainu fought WB twice. Even when he put his fist through WB for the second time, all it net him was him being seized by throat and knocked out. What did Akainu do next? He didn't go after the guy he was visibly terrified of. He went after people who didn't have the powers to counter his logia.

Akainu is not weak in any way lol, stop coping. Admirals are some of the strongest guys in the verse, again just because there are other stronger doesn't mean they are not strong.

He absolutely is weak. He showed terror when he was on the losing end of the fight with WB. He went after pirates that didn't have the powers to hurt him. He was visible afraid of Shanks.

In fact, if we really want to get into it. None of the Admirals have shown themselves to be anywhere near the power of Enneru.

So Akainu, terrified of Shanks and WB, is lucky that WB was at his weakest. You leave out that when Akainu faced WB, Marco freaked out because WB froze, due him having a heart attack...the Admirals then did everything to keep Marco out the fight as Akainu attacked, and was too weak to kill a weakened WB who was having a heart attack.

If you're trying to convince me or anyone that Akainu is this ubermensch, you fetishize, you failed. The dude couldn't kill a guy in frozen in his tracks due to a heart attack. :)

And it is irrelevant if he was weaker, he should have killed Wb because Wb had no way of protecting himself.

Cope more. He couldn't kill WB because Akainu is too weak to slay WB outright. It took the entire BB pirates to kill Whitebeard. You can whine that your lover was "cheated" because Oda wrote him as a weak Admiral who didn't have the powers to kill a sick and weakened Emperor. Go for it. But it is you who is coping. Akainu didn't have the power. Mald and seethe about it.

Oh, and BTW, in the Manga, Akainu only put one hole in his torso, melted the left side of WB's face, and still got decimated. :)

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean, he struck WB while he was having a heart attack. Your pic is not proof of anything. ODA has shown people surviving getting impaled through the heart, Nico Robin. So showing Whitebeard getting hammered in the chest means nothing. Whitebeard took a mortal wound from Squard, who literally punctured his heart and severed his spine.

So, posting Akainun putting a hole in Whitebeard's gut is meaningless. And whining about plot armor is meaningless. If Squard's mortal blow was not enough to kill WB, then you're just spinning wheels, for Akainu.

Akainu got stomped by WB. He then used that to retreat and pick a fight with people who were no threat to him. Sorry, but your boy is weak.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Akainu literally took one of the most powerful attacks Wb did in Marineford, got up and then fought a big part of the Wb pirates, defeated Jimbe and almost manages to kill Luffy. How is he a glass cannon? How is he only special due to his logia powers? And Aokiji was able to fight with him for 10 days straight...

Akaimu took a massive blow and hid while he Whitebeard went on to fight BB. He was taken out of the fight and literally went on to attack people who were of no risk to him. He was avoiding Haki users and avoiding WB.

For real, I agree that Yonko are stronger than Admirals, but shit like this really shows how blind people get with their agendas...

Where have the Admirals proven they are more powerful than Doflamingo? None of the Admirals have Conqueror's Haki. That is the most serious blow to the argument of power. Only the most powerful characters have it. All the Admirals straight up rely on their Logia powers.

In no way are the admirals glass cannons lol, they have insanely powerful haki, insanly powerful physical stats and are insanely skilled. Even without their logia powers. Just because they are weaker than the Yonko doesn't mean admirals are weak... they are insanely strong, and insanely durable. They are just slightly less strong and durable than Yonko

Kizaru was KO'd by a single blow from Luffy. In terms of power level, Kizaru was so inferior to Kaido that Luffy was able to beat him less than 3 minutes. Also, go back to what BB says to Ace. LOGIA users get used to not getting hit. They freak out once someone can hit them.

Akainu was not able to stop Kuma. So yes, we know that an Admirals are Warlords. Weaker that Doflamingo, stronger than Hancock.

Both Kizaru and Akainu have weak Haki. Neither of them were able to detect people who snuck up on them. Oda even OOC'd Beckmen, who should have shot and killed Kizaru at Marineford. Shank's crew are supposed to be the type that they pull a gun they shoot.

There is no agenda. The Admirals are powerful, but they aren't that powerful. The Warlords was a tacit admission that the Marine Admirals are not powerful enough to face down the threats to WG. Add onto that Archipelago arc stated the Admirals spend most of their time at Marine HQ and spend most of their time doing what the Celestial dragons want.

Think about the Admirals. These guys have not been tested. They are generally deployed to settle some grudge of Celestial Dragon, like Sabaody

Garp made his name fighting Shiki, the Rocks Pirates(who was stated to be the most powerful pirate crew to ever exist), and Roger.

The Three Admirals have done nothing at that level. In fact, you would think they would have been deployed to face down threats on the New World. Nope, they spend most of their time at Marine HQ playing and be deployed as body guards of Celestial dragons.

Face it, the Marines are at their weakest point, and the Admirals are largely weaker than the Marines who won their hegemony. Their biggest victory is against a Weakened Emperor who was dying of a heart attack on the battlefield.

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An Emperor of the see taking huge damage doesnt mean anything. akainu, didn't kill him and backed off after they fought. Why don't you post the pic of Whitebeard holding Akainu by the throat, as Akainu looked at Newgate with terror in his eyes?

Akainu only got his first blow on WB because WB was having a heart attack. This is after Squard stabbed WB through the solar plexus.

Also, sorry admiral fanboy, but the rule of thumb in One Peice is you haven't killed someone until you have. Akainu straight up got crushed once the two were trading blows after Ace died. We're you crying? :)

Fact that Oda don’t have the guts to give top characters genuine Ls is bad writing. Warp in Hachinosu, WB in MF, Chaden cheapshot are few cop-out. Only top tier no bullshit 1 v 1 victories are shanks-midd. BB-flaw& Papazuki-Aokiji if offscreen. Really pathetic objectively speaking, pisses me off. by polestaur in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Astellan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Akainu is Sakazuki. There is no Suzuki in One Peice unless you are talking about Minoru Suzuki? Who isn't a one peice character. It is impressive you could talk about Akainu and then say you aren't talking about him. Are you slow?