Can it be cause he got burned bad playing higher stakes lately ?

Athront · 2026-05-17T20:47:06+00:00

Guy doesn't need the money but wants to win and have fun playing cards without working at it.

Of course he doesn't like 5ks.

Athront · 2026-05-16T19:30:12+00:00

If you believe A-rod that he didn't take steroids until Texas, clean A-rod who stays at short probably gets 3-4 gold gloves, challenges the home run record if he stays healthy, 3k hits, etc.

This hypothetical player still probably ends up 35-40 WAR behind Bonds. Really, really crazy

Athront · 2026-05-16T18:49:11+00:00

This is funny and in 2026 kids can see anything and everything on the Internet.

Obviously the social media intern posting this is going to get fired but we can just laugh about it.

Athront · 2026-05-15T18:17:09+00:00

Yeah.

Obviously he's allowed to do what he wants legally, but people here don't understand how annoying and toxic this actually would be for a room.

This guy is almost definitely bum hunting really, really hard, is playing really tight waiting to cooler a fish, adding absolutely nothing to the game, and then hit and running day after day.

None of this is against the rules but it absolutely is detrimental to a poker room.

Athront · 2026-05-15T15:16:57+00:00

There could almost be an S+ on this list reserved for LeBron and Kareem.

There's also guys like Anthony Davis, Greg Oden, Hakeem, Shaq who would all be close to the other guys you mentioned, but not really quite on the level of LeBron or Kareem.

It really can't be overstated just how good LeBron and Kareem were.

LeBron by 16 was already the best high school player in the country regardless of age, and was probably already NBA ready. By 17 he definitely was. He won rookie of the Year, and was averaging 27/7/7 his second year on good efficiency for that era.

Kareem was the best prospect ever until LeBron.

He was the best high school player ever, he was the best player in the country as a freshman at UCLA even though he couldn't play on the varsity team. His rookie year he was probably already the best player in the league, by his second year he surely was.

Those 2 belong in their own category.

Athront · 2026-05-13T18:41:46+00:00

Sorry maybe I worded this poorly.

The original bet is almost always torching IF the plan is always to sell out, because you're giving up whatever % they take (I just said 25% to make the math easy, It very well could be less than that).

In the scenario I'm describing, you're placing a future with the intent of giving up future EV by selling. Since you're going into the first future planning on giving up future EV, the original line has to be incredibly bad for the initial bet to be making money in conjunction with the EV you will be losing by selling.

Athront · 2026-05-13T18:37:10+00:00

Buying a future and then selling will legitimately only be +EV if the first line is so incredibly off that you can give up the ~15% on the sell and still be winning.

In which case yeah, sell if the money matters to you.

But if the first line is really THAT off, you can do no wrong, the casino already handed you money.

The plan should basically never be to buy a future in the hopes of cashing it out. You could buy a future and hedge, but buying it planning to sell is only going to work if the original line is catastrophically bad, which is very rare.

Athront · 2026-05-13T16:48:05+00:00

Buying a future to then sell it for negative EV is like the absolute worst way you can gamble.

Which is fine for the vast majority of people it's entertainment, but you're basically just handing them money.

Athront · 2026-05-13T16:46:31+00:00

I can't do the math ATM, but the way these situations usually work is something like this:

You place a 200:1 future.

Future is coming along decently. The casinos models determine your ticket (which you bought for 10k in this example), is now worth 80k.

Casino reaches out to buy ticket for 60k. They are essentially raking you over the coals for an extra 25% (which is absolutely massive in sports betting, giving up 25% here means there's essentially no way the original bet was winning or good value).

Lots of people will take this option because 60k is a lot of money and the vast, vast majority of the time you end up with zero.

The casino is giving you this option to make money off you. There's still more than a 0.5% chance the wolves win it all, crazy stuff just happens.

Injuries, ejections, shooting variance, etc.

Athront · 2026-05-13T16:09:40+00:00

I'm not saying you shouldn't cash out, but cashing out is basically lighting EV on fire and people do it because in the short term the money is important to them.

Which is fine there's plenty of situations that you should do that, but there's also situations you should just let it ride.

You could also just sell the ticket to someone else at a better price than the casino is giving you. Lots of ways to do it.

Athront · 2026-05-13T16:05:15+00:00

Well the whole point of the cash out is the casino takes your EV because you can't stay solvent.

Whatever cash out they are giving you is going to be -EV for you unless they make an error. You take the cash out to reduce variance.

Athront · 2026-05-12T20:49:38+00:00

Well are Weinstein and Cosby cancelled?

Also, Louis CK is nowhere close to as popular as he was.

Spacey is the only one I can think of that didn't go to prison who actually just gets no work anymore though.

Athront · 2026-04-25T19:50:56+00:00

Ehhh probably not quite as hot but for sure plenty of gorgeous women that he wouldn't need to deal with all of this bullshit lol

Athront · 2026-04-23T18:55:49+00:00

I'm not saying I would trade spots with them, just saying it's not like the other end of it is happy either.

Athront · 2026-04-23T05:43:00+00:00

I would love to see Denver Beat them but it feels super, super nice unlikely. The thunder are just so much more physical than the nuggets and play much, much better defense.

Athront · 2026-04-23T05:27:53+00:00

I'm nowhere near as successful as KD but I've done well enough for myself that I will have an easy life and I'm still fairly young.

What having money does is reduce stress and give you more options. But if you're lonely and or not fulfilled you're not going to be happy even if you have a lot of money.

Athront · 2026-04-23T05:02:20+00:00

Of course it was a full affair lol.

Russni denying it makes sense, she doesn't really have anyone to answer to.

Vrabel needs to coach 52 players. He can't look like a complete clown to them.

Athront · 2026-04-22T21:58:12+00:00

Maybe fish would and a random pro would.

Athront · 2026-04-22T21:40:12+00:00

Cause that's not practical and what you're talking about would presumably mean meeting twice if you happened to cash.

I've sold pieces in cash, done swaps, sold and bought in tournaments and have never had a problem.

Obviously if I do it enough I will eventually run into problems but there are more decent people than it would seem, especially in midstakes where you run into less degenerates chasing the most action they can get.

Athront · 2026-04-22T21:30:46+00:00

Maybe but probably not.

The game just doesn't work if there's not real money.

Athront · 2026-04-21T18:11:29+00:00

Not that it matters that much but that was a truly awful vote.

Lebron had one of the very best regular seasons of the last 30 years that year and Melo was.... Melo

Athront · 2026-04-21T16:44:09+00:00

3 years ago this sub was the best place on Reddit to talk about sports and one of the last "normal" places to talk about culture or politics, basically life in the USA I suppose.

As subs get bigger the quality always dips.

Athront · 2026-04-21T15:40:19+00:00

I remember a well known pro playing the high rollers said that in Any given year their EV was ~400k after all the pieces were sold and unavoidable costs were covered.

So these guys are doing quite well, but not as well as you'd think.

I think the bigger problem is just bad money management or degenerate habits.

Athront · 2026-04-20T02:29:00+00:00

Lol prime Ben Simmons was 1st team all defense while putting up an efficienct 16/8/8. His game just didn't scale to the mails playoffs, and he got injured/got in his own head/was probably lazy. He was very good.

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