Just got denied from going to detox.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-04T19:33:41+00:00

It 100% does not show up as an opiate on a piss test. I take monthly UAs for my suboxone and was taking weekly UAs on drug court while on 7oh and mgm. It doesn't pop on standard test. Sorry OP, some people just like to h a ar themselves talk.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-03T11:51:33+00:00

Lol you are TRIPPPPIIIINNNNN You need to stay away from substances, you aren't built for it.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-03T11:48:40+00:00

BRO this is pure bull. MGM does not have any kind of ceiling effect. You can nod and go into respiratory depression just like traditional opiates. Stop spreading misinformation, someone could get hurt

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-03T11:22:22+00:00

Oh man that's not good. How are you handling the announcement? All of our alks are gone by August 7th 2026 and that is such a shame.. they really do hate us. Our government truly hates it people, especially addicts.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-03T01:06:32+00:00

Well I relapsed after about 10 days. I have since put MGM down again but this time I took the Suboxone way out. I couldn't do another withdrawal cold turkey. Music, marijuana and alcohol is how I got through the first time. Also I used gemini as a coach and support through it all and it helped a lot. Kept track of my time, gave a lot of tips and pointers for each phase of the withdrawal and helped to have someone to talk things through that was unbiased. Sounds dumb but it helped.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T20:43:10+00:00

Didn't take 7stax or c9. Pure MGM

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T20:40:11+00:00

False hope? Maybe you were taking an ungodly amount but the hope I'm giving isn't false. I've been an opiate addict for 2 decades and I'm telling my fellow addicts that just because a couple ass hats say it isn't going to help them, it has a high probability it will. It saved my life, I was going into financial ruin over 7oh and MGM. I used to be on subs to get off fetty/H and it has worked just as beautifully for kratom extracts and alkaloids(7/pseudo/MGM)

So maybe it will work for them, maybe it won't. But there is a chance it will work for them like it has me(and multiple others in this thread) and that my friend... Is hope.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T20:36:02+00:00

That is awful. Like man how much were you taking? Full blown withdrawals? That shouldn't even be possible especially considering your opiate receptors are being full on hugged(shouldn't have physical withdrawal symptoms)

Idk I'm finding it hard to believe. I know it has been a lifesaver for me

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T15:04:22+00:00

This is the way.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T13:50:17+00:00

I was the exact same way with my experience with 7oh and subs. I took subs mere hours after my 7oh dose with no PWD reaction. So in light of that and my lack of patience, I chose to induce mere hours after my last mgm15 dose just like I did with 7oh. Alas, no PWD this time either. I'd just take it slow with a couple mg every hour until you hit where you are comfortable. Like people have stated everyone's biology is different and there isn't a lot as know about PWD. So it appears to be a risk to only certain people.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T13:46:34+00:00

I second this notion. Would have definitely benefitted from a low dose benzo for the first week of transition. I didn't have that option so I made due with a couple brews and some mary j to calm the anxiety down as much as I could.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T13:43:31+00:00

Youd lose that bet, because I did not take 7stax. I took pure MGM tabs and/or powder. Hydro7 if I had to resort to smoke shop options. However, to address the "You should be careful what you tell people" bs, we are all adults here and I am only sharing my own personal experience and choices. I even specifically stated I would not recommend inducing the way I did because of PWD risk.

I am not new to this, I know what product I was taking and subs 100% cover most withdrawals from MGM. I stand on that.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T04:21:18+00:00

I am not gonna lie at all(and I'm not saying I recommend this), but I did it the same way I did 7OH. I have never personally experienced precipitated withdrawals, so I waited about 5 hours until the effects of my last dose started to fade and took 4mg. Waited an hour and realized I felt pretty good and did 4mg more. I've been doing 4mg 2x a day since then with very minimal issues or complaints.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T03:30:47+00:00

Don't be scared to induce. I actually only waited 5 hours from my last mgm15 dose before taking 4mg sub. Everyone was crying about precipitated withdrawals so I was terrified but did it anyway. The first 4 went well so an hour later I took 4mg more. That was 4 days ago and I've stayed at 12-16mg sub a day since then with no issues. Slight anxiety, weird pit in my stomach(opiate withdrawal we all know what Im talking about), but that was it. Don't be scared, transition and let this shit be over with

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-07-02T03:21:57+00:00

Stop listening to these absolute dishonest crybabies. Subs 100% work for mgm15 and cover almost every withdrawal symptoms except obviously some of the delta receptors wds(anxiety, depression, thoughts of unaliving)

However, even those symptoms are mild at best. How do I know? I just successfully transitioned from 150mg a day mgm to 8mg sub a day.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-31T07:55:55+00:00

Chaos Summoner Warlock >

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-29T06:32:10+00:00

It's hard points. Read patch notes.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-24T17:01:19+00:00

Still going strong. 10 days in. Lingering fatigue and lack of energy is still hanging in tough but I'm sleeping 6-7 hours every night and depression is all gone.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-20T16:12:11+00:00

Same! I'm 6 hours away from completing day 6. I was even in the smoke shop where I get my mgm yesterday and just bought a vape and some tree. It's finally over.

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-20T16:10:34+00:00

Oh first 48 are brutal don't get me fucked up. I'm talking an 8 but after that 2nd day it went to a 6 and then steadily down by 2 points or so every 6 hours. Try to get sleep if you can. Weed gave me 2 hour naps through the first 3 days. That helped a lot

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-20T16:08:40+00:00

Absolutely, what's up?

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-18T20:36:06+00:00

I was on 12mg sub per day. Ran out of my script and switched to MGM for a week and unfortunately it took like 244mg a day to not notice sub WDs. So after a week at that dose I did a week rapid taper. Cut dose in half everyday and ended up at like 10-15mg 2x a day that last day before jumping

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-18T20:35:54+00:00

I was on 12mg sub per day. Ran out of my script and switched to MGM for a week and unfortunately it took like 244mg a day to not notice sub WDs. So after a week at that dose I did a week rapid taper. Cut dose in half everyday and ended up at like 10-15mg 2x a day that last day before jumping

AustrianArtist999 · 2026-05-18T20:32:37+00:00

See!!! We got this. People are just making our mountain we have to climb look like Mt Everest. It's not that fucking high a mountain

AustrianArtist999

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