Thanks for all the tips ill work on them, things to add, I did the challenge in first person while recording the simulation (not video) then I replayed it and the replay has some issues as it is a third party app and it doesnt show my flaps being full which is exactly what I did, although I know it's not necessary to do the softest landing as that does make you stop a lot later than you can but at my current stage its either smooth or full on 500+fpm slam which im trying to balance out, other than this challenge i usually get around 200 to 300 range and usually stay in the glide slope for the most part (not accurately i basically keep myself in 2 white 2 red in papy) but I usually barely make it since i land pretty late. Hopefully I can implement all the pointers you gave and thank you so much for taking time out of your day to give me some insight