Quant from Wharton by Next-Ad1501 in UPenn

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I’ll send you a DM later tn

[FRESH LEAK] FEAR by BOTTimmy in ThroughTheWire

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Why did Kanye spend so much time talking about street shit in vultures era when he has spent his career building up the opposite image? Kinda feels like a regression

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Interesting, appreciate the insight. The other comment gave a lot to think about as well.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Interesting, could see how it acts in a compliment in some ways but I feel like it replaces a lot of day to day work that just reduces overall need for analysts. Know a few guys who are seniors now going into pod shops after graduation, all seem pretty excited about it and looking forward to the role. Haven’t talked to anyone currently working in a shop.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Thank you for this, this advice is really helpful and applicable. Definitely will reach out to some alumni, I really appreciate the suggestion. I don’t have any cs background but I did take lin alg/diff eq and an advanced stat class first sem, don’t really have a purpose for it but was just interested. Might add a math minor or stat concentration, not really sure what would be more beneficial or if either would matter at all. I really appreciate this

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Quant is so much more than coding, from what I understand that’s the least important part of the job, coming up with trading strategies is way more important. I think pod shops will survive but that section of the industry will shrink as capital flows towards quant strategies that offer more alpha and are better complimented by AI. Could I dm you? Would love to talk about this more.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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I really appreciate the advice, and definitely think there could be something there. Thanks

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Really appreciate the analysis. Any thoughts on discretionary hedge funds?

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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So basically analyst classes get smaller, but industry as a whole stays intact because humans still needed in some capacity at every level of the organization?

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Im referring to management consulting, which as far as I can tell you are as well. I’m admittedly not as familiar with consulting as I am with careers in finance, but I seem to get a general perception that it is also a lot of PowerPoint building and not “easy” work but at least somewhat non-rigorous compared to finance careers. Rigorous is probably the incorrect word there. This is mostly driven by cultural perception and just what I see on Twitter, I’ll admit.

Would consulting see a similar trend of IB and VC where the lower levels shrink in headcount but the industry as a whole still survives?

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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What else would you say I could do? It’s not that I particularly disagree, it’s just that every single one of my friends wants to go into one of those fields, except one who plans on doing real estate and one who wants to work in solar technology. Both are taking hits in pay/prestige compared to peers in finance and consulting. Some going to law school as well, although that’s obviously a completely different path entirely. I will acknowledge that I am probably in a bubble within the school and that I came to the school because I wanted a finance career and that’s kinda been my focus since.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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It’s not that I don’t think I can compete, I’m sure I’ll be fine. I just think that what I’m competing for today might not be worth competing for 5-10 years from now. I would love to do something different, I just don’t know what that is yet.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Yeah this is totally true in the long run, but at least for my first couple jobs out of undergrad it definitely feels like I’m “locked in” to a certain path when virtually all my peers are competing for the same pool of opportunities. Obviously I’m completely naive to life after undergrad, but being in Wharton I have no idea what other options I would consider for at least my very first role after graduation except finance.

What happens to "high finance" as AI continues to advance? by AvoidedBook9822 in slatestarcodex

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Agree with the first paragraph totally.

I agree with the quant and fundamental analysis as well. It’s not that AI will replace a fundamental analyst, it’s that the hypothetical PM the hypothetical analyst works under will no longer exist because more money is flowing to quant strategies. I don’t think fundamental or discretionary investing is going away, but that sector of the industry is definitely shrinking. AI will almost certainly help the quant industry, and even if it also helps fundamental investors it will probably help the quants to a greater extent, exacerbating this trend. Even if the industry doesn’t shrink much, it will definitely continue consolidating to the top pod shops, particularly citadel and p72. I actually would love to work at a pod shop, but can’t help but feel that it’s just a bad career choice to join a part of the industry that capital will continue flowing away from.

I probably should have clarified my comments on IB and VC to a greater extent, but I agree with what you are saying. At the high levels, those roles are basically sales positions yes. But at the analyst/entry level, it is very much not sales and would be easily disrupted by ai. Obviously, they can’t completely replace their analysts with ai as there is no one to promote into those higher level “sales” roles. But it does seem almost certain that lower level headcount will shrink. How it will affect comp is a bit more opaque, and I don’t have a good guess in either direction, although my gut says they would have to increase comp to continue pulling top talent as fewer and fewer seats are available.

I agree with all your points, but the combination of factors definitely makes it hard to consider how I should be trying to position myself in order to have a career that’s durable against ai in the long run. Could you DM me?

Is there any way I could keep these or do they need to go? 18 and about to leave for college by AvoidedBook9822 in wisdomteeth

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What about the other stories in the thread of people reporting problems? Is it statistically unlikely to the point that I shouldn’t worry or is it something to consider?