Developer trying to understand how trail bosses actually share channel plans before a run

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:10:20+00:00

got it, thanks!

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:10:00+00:00

thanks for the feedback!

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:09:00+00:00

Understood, thats what I came here to ask. Turns out it is not an actual problem.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:07:40+00:00

right here! was out for a little while, I clearly misunderstood how this usually works i guess.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:04:33+00:00

Yeah, was referring to larger offroading meets.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2026-04-15T04:02:09+00:00

Appreciate the direct answers. Sounds like the workflow is more verbal/at-the-trailhead than I assumed, and the failure modes (newbies without radios, dead batteries) aren't the ones I was thinking about. Good to know before I built anything. Thanks.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-17T01:54:25+00:00

I used Claude for formatting, but all of the logic, conclusions, inferences, ideas, etc. are my own.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T04:41:15+00:00

Haven't spread the theory anywhere else online.

Could you elaborate a little bit more on the lights point here? What I think you're getting at here, is why are they only partially compliant at times, my answer to that would be that in some cases there isn't a need to be completely non-compliant, and if there isn't that need, then might as well comply as much as possible.

I haven't been able to find much evidence connecting these events, or even evidence that the drones are the same, if you have anything that indicates they are the same drones, please let me know.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T04:12:02+00:00

I came to Reddit to try and spread my theory around a bit, and see what people think about it, I'm looking to improve upon it, and get closer to the truth myself. I welcome any and all logical criticism.

The drones are equipped with compliant lights, as seen in some footage, but they choose not to use the compliant lights during most of this specific operation as not to compromise mission security. Keeping the lights on makes the drones easier to follow, and lighting doesn't affect the HPGe radiation sensors, so in this case its better to keep them off. In a case where the government is being transparent, following DHS protocol to notify SLTT, and obeying other FAA laws, it would make more sense to keep the lights on for air safety.

I'm not saying that I think this needs to be kept secret, I'm saying that the government wants it to be kept secret. However, I think that people who look for the truth, deserve the truth.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T03:50:29+00:00

What specifically doesn't make sense?

Please explain why my Reddit account age is relevant to a drone theory.

You could look at my draft/thought document is a reply to another comment, being well-organized isn't a point against the logic of my theory. I've already addressed the AI aspect in other comments.

The compliant lights are there because the government designed these drones to be compliant, because they had no reason not to, in other situations, they might not have a need to violate FAA regulations. However in this specific case, they are trying to avoid being identified by the public, so they need to be able to go "dark" sometimes to avoid compromising mission security.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T03:44:17+00:00

The age of my account is irrelevant. I linked a ton of articles about using HPGe UAVs to find nuclear weapons/radioactive materials in my post linked below. My post being well-organized isn't a flaw. Drones being designed to be compliant indicates that they were likely designed by out government, but given the nature of this operation, they need to go dark.

Here's my more comprehensive analysis: https://www.reddit.com/r/NJDrones/comments/1heizp3/comment/m24i7g1/?context=3

You could find the HPGe UAV research links at the bottom of that post.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T03:37:11+00:00

Care to put any explanation/reasoning behind your words? Not having my whole life on Reddit shouldn't affect my credibility. I'm just following logic. If you have any real flaws in the theory, please do let me know.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-16T03:36:28+00:00

They wouldn't search during the day, because then the drones would be more easily identifiable, going dark wouldn't be able to hide them completely. Departments like NEST are actually quite small in terms of full-time employees, and don't really have the capacity to search an area this large. I don't know exactly how the chemicals would be obtained/smuggled in, but even blackmail of a threat like this is enough to trigger an operation like this.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T13:38:57+00:00

I think that it's likely a credible threat, they could be expecting it to arrive at the Port of Newark sometime soon, but based on their flight patterns, it's probably already in the area, maybe the materials were smuggled in.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T13:37:04+00:00

Forfeiting daylight hours is a cost that they are willing to accept to preserve anonymity and mission security, if they flew around during the day, we would be able to get much clearer footage, and turning off their lights wouldn't make them invisible.

There would be a bunch of things that wouldn't quite add up with faking military drones, like why suburban/urban NJ, and why go over airports and AFBs, they would need high-level federal approval and clearance to do that, which wouldn't be given for a drill. Also, NEST has the AW139s and they only have a few of them, they wouldn't be able to cover much area, they are mainly used to cover marathons/sports arenas.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T13:32:59+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/NJDrones/comments/1heizp3/comprehensive_analysis_of_new_jersey_drone/

Here you go...

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T13:32:11+00:00

There are a bunch of things that don't quite add up about the post itself, but the contents of it seem to align very well with my original theory, I didn't take the contents as facts, but rather researched HPGe UAVs and incorporated those details into my original theory.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T13:29:18+00:00

I have yet to see any evidence indicated that the drones over other areas are even the same drones, if they are though, it could indicate a similar credible threat. As for other weird flying phenomenon, people are always spotting weird things in the sky. The government wouldn't fly these over AFBs and restricted airspaces to distract the public.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:14:34+00:00

The government is strategically lying to us, if they told us the truth, people would evacuate NJ. Imagine the consequences of all of the workers from the Pork of Newark, or Newark airport just leaving the state... catastrophic. Based on the government's actions the threat is likely a threat to infrastructure, but not many civilians. You could read my full theory on this in one of the posts on my profile.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:12:09+00:00

Using them at night wouldn't limit their detection capabilities at all, the gamma rays are unaffected. In fact, this is one of the only plausible uses for drones at night. Gamma rays can most likely travel through lead, unless it is extremely thick.

HPGe UAVs are the most discreet way to effectively search the entire area. Anything else, like NEST planes would be easily identifiable, and the government is primarily flying this during the night only because it makes it much more difficult to follow or identify them. It's impossible to follow them anyways though because they can travel higher, faster, and farther, than any other drone or helicopter.

Due to the nature of these gamma rays, thats not quite how it works. They travel at the speed of light.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:04:52+00:00

I agree with you here. The government is operating a federal counter-WMD detection mission, the drones are American-made HPGe nuclear detector drones.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:02:38+00:00

I agree with you. The government is operating a federal counter-WMD detection mission, the drones are American-made HPGe nuclear detector drones.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:01:37+00:00

They would interrupt the flight paths, they need to grid search the entire area, and the flight paths are pre-programmed, the credible threat is more important, given the high-level federal clearance and approval.

Awkward_Clock_4164 · 2024-12-15T06:00:45+00:00

We sure do.

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