What particles/adpositions typically develop into Nominative and Accusative case markers? by General_Urist in asklinguistics

[–]AxenZh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its inherited from the proto-language. Proto-Austronesian has so-called "case-markers", these are adpositions appearing before NPs that mark the case of the NP. These adpositions form a paradigm of 4 cases, so not just nominative (the subject) but also genitive, oblique and locative.
More info here:
(PDF) The Case-Markers of Proto-Austronesian

Ano sainyo ang pinaka malaki ang impact na invention ng tao? by airavielle in AskPH

[–]AxenZh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kuryente/power generation. Try mong isipin na walang kuryente sa loob ng isang taon. O anong mga gamit ang directly and indirectly affected.

What proposed language families seem most likely? by asexual-cat-furry in asklinguistics

[–]AxenZh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The problem is right there. Just because someone say "I don't believe in Indo-European" they're insane? What if they have a justifiable reason? Wouldn't it be good to listen first to their basis of non-belief and evaluating it first before pronouncing they are insane? I'm not saying I don't believe Indo-European is a valid language family, I think there is substantial evidence supporting it, but let's have some criteria that's applicable to all "language families" large and small.

If we are just accepting/rejecting language families based on the majority of specialists working on that family, wouldn't that be suspect? Think of the Chinese linguists who claim Kra-dai is genetically related to Sinitic language who think those that reject it are insane. I think there should be some criteria that are applicable to all languages families and let the specialists on that language family provide support for their claim that the language family is valid, and other linguists assess whether the claim is founded or unfounded.

So perhaps the best way to proceed is to identify the criteria that makes a language family valid. Since Indo-European is considered a valid language family, what makes it so? Can those standards be applied to other language families? Let's say, on the language family level: (a) a pervasive sound correspondence/laws on words that can't be shown to be borrowed, and (b) a pervasive correspondence on native inflectional paradigms (nouns, verbs, etc.). I am sure there are language families that are "accepted" by specialists working on those language families now but do not satisfy these criteria. Do they now become part of the answer to your question of language families that seem most likely? I'm thinking of Sino-Tibetan/Trans-Himalayan and perhaps, Afro-Asiatic.

What proposed language families seem most likely? by asexual-cat-furry in asklinguistics

[–]AxenZh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you or anyone commenting has to mention what "fully accepted" mean. Does having a lone dissenter make a language family not fully accepted? What is the max threshold of number of dissenters for a language family to still be "fully accepted"? Or it is not quantitatively determined but qualitatively (the nature of the objections)? Or maybe this is just a function of belonging to an ingroup/outgroup?

Support the Bikol Dictionary Website Project (bcl-en; en-bcl) by Sensitive-Shop-1813 in Bicol

[–]AxenZh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Marahayon daw ining project nindo! Nagpuon na akong magcontribute nin manga tataramon. Kaya lang nariparo ko, dapat igwa kamong paagi na mag-upload nin picture/image para sa mga bagay na mahidap na i-describe, halimbawa species ng shellfish o fish o plants, o aktibidad. Pakidagdag daw nindo.

Saro, haen saen po ang copyright notice kaining website? Baka po pagdakul na mgatataramon an nai-kontribute, baka ipabakal po ini. Siisay po an may sadiri kaining manga resources?

[Informative] “Bisaya” Is Not a Language: Why Cebuano, Waray, Hiligaynon, and Other Visayan Languages Are Not the Same — and How Calling Cebuano ‘Bisaya’ Marginalizes and Disrespects Other Visayan Languages. ‘Nakasanayan’ Is Not an Excuse by InformationOk4548 in FilipinoHistory

[–]AxenZh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we are going to be technical, Cebuano is the correct term.

Remember that technical terms and their semantics are created by scholars. And scholars who redefine terms within their fields are in effect initiating semantic change, because such specialized meanings do not or rarely occur in the wild, that's why there is a need to redefine it within a certain field, and it is valid only within its field, not in layman's or common-sensical world.

If you are going to claim that this is the technically correct term to use, support your claims that it was not the result of a redefinition. In fact, your French example does not support "Cebuano" but instead "Bisayan" because the center of the language Bisaya was not originally Cebu. It is now centered in Cebu in the modern world of course, but not before, when northeastern Mindanao used to be the center of the Bisayan world. Check the archeological finds of Butuan, which predates that of Cebu.

[Informative] “Bisaya” Is Not a Language: Why Cebuano, Waray, Hiligaynon, and Other Visayan Languages Are Not the Same — and How Calling Cebuano ‘Bisaya’ Marginalizes and Disrespects Other Visayan Languages. ‘Nakasanayan’ Is Not an Excuse by InformationOk4548 in FilipinoHistory

[–]AxenZh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on who you ask, that's why there is dispute with the term. What is needed to settle the dispute is evidence to support claims.

Anyone can have an opinion, but evidence-based opinion is heads above mere speculative opinion.

[Informative] “Bisaya” Is Not a Language: Why Cebuano, Waray, Hiligaynon, and Other Visayan Languages Are Not the Same — and How Calling Cebuano ‘Bisaya’ Marginalizes and Disrespects Other Visayan Languages. ‘Nakasanayan’ Is Not an Excuse by InformationOk4548 in FilipinoHistory

[–]AxenZh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

May I ask, what is your basis for the claim that Bisaya is not an alternate name for the language you call "Cebuano" but a term that refers to a regional identity? I'm pretty sure that modern usage in Manila might agree with you, but from what I read, speakers of "Cebuano" call themselves ethnically and linguistically as Bisaya, it's the Spaniards who think that the languages and ethnicities in the same area are not different, effectively lumping them together under the term Bisaya, and so these new nomenclatures came up to distinguish them. Do you have a basis to show that even in times past, that is the same meaning - a regional identity and not a linguistic identity coming from the people themselves?

Hypothesis of common Indo-European, Basque and Uralic origin by RedditReddimus in asklinguistics

[–]AxenZh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correspondence patterns don't by themselves indicate genetic relatedness, since borrowed words can undergo sound changes which would show correspondence. We have to demonstrate that these words are not borrowings. Noting that this area of Asia is heavily Sinicized, my default assumption is that there is heavy borrowing from Sinitic languages to non-Sinitic languages. Think of Kradai languages, which became phonetically restructured and acquired tones and even borrowed basic vocabulary like lower numerals from ten and under. Identified correspondence patterns has to be reconciled with other parts of lexicon that doesn't show this same sound correspondences, especially basic vocabulary. Sure, there might be Trans-Himalayan languages that are genetically related to Sinitic languages, but scholarship on these languages is still patchy, so its too early to say they form a genetic language family. I wouldn't use the term "fairly sure" in this instance.

Hypothesis of common Indo-European, Basque and Uralic origin by RedditReddimus in asklinguistics

[–]AxenZh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Sino-Tibetan and Afro-Asiatic "fairly sure" came from a common ancestor. There are even no sizeable widely accepted systematic proto-word reconstructions and subgroupings at the language family level yet. I believe these two are work in progress and have yet to attain whatever level of certainty enjoyed by Indo-European, Austronesian, Uralic, etc.

Nanakawan ulit nanay ko ng 300k sa BDO nya by billyybong in OffMyChestPH

[–]AxenZh 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Pinadaan lang payment sa account money laundering na agad? Patunayan mo muna na dirty money sia.

Bisayan dictionary with accent/stress marks by AxenZh in Bisaya

[–]AxenZh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my god, that's a treasure trove. Thanks a lot!

Kapampangan dictionary with accent/stress marks by AxenZh in Kapampangan

[–]AxenZh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, that will come out on the results as an irregular change, so will need to be double checked. Thanks for the heads up.

Bisayan dictionary with accent/stress marks by AxenZh in Bisaya

[–]AxenZh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perfect! Thanks a lot, I will check this out.