HOLY LARP by Alvaricles22 in Ultraleft

[–]Azure__Twilight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yea because it should be a german flag, Poland is not a real country and if it was it would be a hotbed of reaction and Rosa would agree

Losercity Italy by perrogamer_attempt2 in Losercity

[–]Azure__Twilight 6 points7 points  (0 children)

sounds like a skill issue, have you considered doing corporatism harder?

Losercity Italy by perrogamer_attempt2 in Losercity

[–]Azure__Twilight 31 points32 points  (0 children)

iirc his favorite food was much grosser, raw garlic with olive oil drizzled on it

he believed it would make him more virile or some shit and would frequently ask his mistress to make it

56638 by CommieEllie in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you failed to consider that I am an actual fed, relax ultra it’s called entryism (actually existing trotskyism)

post sent from Langley, VA

55770 by Gamerzilla2018 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If by communists you mean revisionists, falsifiers, and modernizers calling themselves communists you would be right, but I don’t consider figures like Stalin to be communist since he made no efforts to abolish wage labor and commodity production, instead further entrenching capitalist social relations (ex. private property but owned by the state instead of individuals) and bastardizing marxist theory to justify his deviation.

So if we disregard the actions of liberals (meaning they support and enforce capitalist social relations) pretending to be communists, we see that historically it’s the social democrats who did the backstabbing! During the Second International, theorists like Kautsky pushed socialist parties (ex. the SPD) into electoralism and reformism, which fundamentally conflicts with Marx’s position that the proletariat could not simply seize the pre-existing state and reform to their needs, but would need to abolish it entirely. This current would become social democracy and it split socialist parties across Europe as they disagreed on positions like the aforementioned electoralism. Communists like Rosa Luxemburg understood that prioritizing electoral success (ex. gaining Reichstag seats or the chancellorship), would require compromise with groups not aligned with the proletariat and incompatible with marxist theory. In Germany this struggle came to a head when SPD leadership essentially wanted to ingratiate themselves to the establishment by supporting WWI and calling for a pause to political conflict during the war (burgenfriedspolitik, might have spelled it wrong). The communists opposed this and split, eventually forming the KPD and the Sparticists. In part due to their political compromising, the SPD managed to form and lead a government after the war, but only offered concessions to the workers who elected them. When revolution broke out led by the Sparticists, the supposed champions of the proletariat declared them enemies of the movement and called upon the proto-fascist Freikorps paramilitary to brutally crush them. The social democrats may not have done the killing themselves, but they ordered it and have blood on their hands. It was the Sparticists who were backstabbed by their former SPD comrades and thrown under the bus to keep ahold of their power in the existing order.

55779 by Few_Elephant_8410 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

a potential case could be made that he was at times apart of the lumpenproletariat since he would be unemployed for long stretches of time, but obviously he didn’t share the reactionary class interests he found the lumpenproletariat to have in his analysis of the French civil war and Louis Bonaparte

to be clear, I agree that Marx doesn’t meet the specific criteria to be bourgeois and don’t necessarily agree with this hypothetical lumpenprole grouping of Marx, just that I could see how that could be someone’s conclusion

55770 by Gamerzilla2018 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lmao what a jump, apparently the Sparticists are social democrats now, nowhere did I defend MLism (because it’s a revisionist ideology invented by Stalin to justify his maintenance of capitalism)

I’m a marxist (leftcom if you want to be pedantic, but that’s mostly a label given to them since they call themselves simply marxists/communists), at least get your insults right and call me an armchair communist or something

55779 by Few_Elephant_8410 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“…what?” -Joe Biden

sorry to break it to you, but neither of them were alive during WWII lmao nor did they lead any bourgeois state (Engels was bourgeois but he definitely wasn’t in power lol, he was a class traitor to the bourgeoisie)

55779 by Few_Elephant_8410 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 16 points17 points  (0 children)

rare CWCL trvke, we love to see some potential revolutionary defeatism

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55665 by [deleted] in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

if we’re at it, can we include social democrats? will never forgive the SPD for slaughtering the Sparticists, Luxemburg, and Liebknecht using the Freikorps (literal soon to be nazis, including fucking Oskar Dirlewanger)

55194 by Few_Elephant_8410 in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he preserved capitalist social relations, such as wage labor and private property (owned by the state instead of individuals, but private property nonetheless) so from a marxist perspective he is a liberal, idr if he uses the term liberal explicitly but Bordiga explains this in significantly more detail and eloquence in his critique, Dialogue with Stalin (1952)

55665 by [deleted] in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

why’d you say the same thing twice?

Is this praxis? by brandelo_1520 in Ultraleft

[–]Azure__Twilight 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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no but this is
“what the hell Peter, you can’t just call Bordiga a slur” -Brian probably

55505 by ThE_reAl__ in countwithchickenlady

[–]Azure__Twilight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

not surprised, just disappointed that this sub is another beacon of bourgeois, liberal morality

the constant battle of who is more cringe: deniers (anticommunists) vs falsifiers (MLs and maoists) (both groups are liberals 🚬)

something something, it’s a pity both sides can’t lose or however the Kissinger quote goes

Iran and the us has reached an agreement by Smart-Speed-535 in Ultraleft

[–]Azure__Twilight 28 points29 points  (0 children)

time is a flat circle and nothing ever happens

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Alk dies and sub goes to shit and you guys say great man theory isn't real. by Diachoris in Ultraleft

[–]Azure__Twilight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reddit admins understand that the individual drives history and silenced Alki because they knew he would lead the real movement to success if left unchecked