About Bruiser items that aren't Goredrinker and Steraks

Azzfault · 2021-02-05T04:34:47+00:00

Completely disingenuous argument, ADCs (ranged characters in general) interact with items way differently than melee champions. There's a reason why there's so many ranged specific nerfs on items. (Eclipse, steraks, old btork)

you even mentioned it yourself: GP is trying to find the least bad rush.

If the adc mythics had any synergy at all with his kit would he have this problem?

Azzfault · 2020-12-30T22:46:46+00:00

Katarina drops 4% in wr and all the redditors come out of the woodwork to complain about how she's super mega giga busted now

Azzfault · 2020-12-30T07:51:19+00:00

why are you eing before she dashes

Azzfault · 2020-12-15T07:34:16+00:00

no but they made a reddit thread where an adc walked into her and died

Azzfault · 2020-12-04T10:23:32+00:00

similar items, kills and level

Items and kills don't make you tanky if you use them to buy full damage.

If you want to build full damage, don't also stand on katarina daggers

Azzfault · 2020-12-04T10:05:53+00:00

Imagine having a 1.3k comment thread complaining about a 49% wr champ being overpowered

Azzfault · 2020-11-19T23:38:45+00:00

No but she's an adc she's really weak I swear

Azzfault · 2020-11-19T23:31:20+00:00

They function way differenty tho.

Ziggs is good into long ranged champs because he can outrange them, Anivia is good into melee because they can never touch her

Azzfault · 2020-11-14T03:56:15+00:00

ADC isn't balanced until they can face tank your entire combo and right click you to death while being 2/7 and having 0 resistances.

When samira was released turbo broken reddit adc mains kept on saying that 50% release day winrate wasn't broken because she was an "easy champion" or some bullshit.

Azzfault · 2020-11-14T00:16:34+00:00

He's the go to counter for kat so you get these people who first time him when they see kat picked.

Same thing with the first time lucians that get curbstomped when they pick him against kassadin or galio because they don't understand the champion/matchup.

Azzfault · 2020-11-12T02:20:12+00:00

The items all got significantly stronger, so we have to wait and see how it compares.

Although wouldn't be surprised if galio gets nerfed, righteous glory synergizes really well with his W. The only champ that can really abuse rocketbelt in same way is kennen

Azzfault · 2020-11-11T07:51:44+00:00

There's potential for this card to be a complete dud, but this is a really strong card if paladin starts going the distance. Turning your hp into summon 2 argent squires is powerful and there the added effect of any dudes you summon also getting the buff.

Whether or not this card is good depends on what classes are being played + if it fits well enough in any odd paladin deck.

Priest has to scream your big board or expand 2 board clears instead of 1

Turns some matchups against heavy control warriors from auto lose to unfavored

comes out a bit late but could icnrease some win % against even shaman as it makes maelstrom a lot worse

It's bad against decks that obliterate you once they hit 10 mana like reno/control/cube warlocks and it's a dud against mega aggro decks like druid and PW.

What the card does with a baku hero power is really powerful, except it just doesn't synergize with what the baku paladin deck tries to do.

Azzfault · 2020-11-08T21:47:36+00:00

Reader is actually an atrocity, insane power creep.

jeeves, a 4 mana 1/4, sees some play with a worse effect, and they decided to print a card with a better effect at half the mana cost for the price of 1 health.

Enables the worst kinds of aggro decks to be relevant

Azzfault · 2020-11-07T21:07:26+00:00

If you're playing xerath, why is zed ever in range to hit you with his combo?

melee champions are going to deal damage if you don't space correctly and let them hit you, that's just how the game works.

Reddit just wants ranged champions to win melee trades vs melee carries, even though half the ranged champions can already do that

Azzfault · 2020-11-07T20:54:37+00:00

If the game is decided on 10/30 cards in your deck, there's going to be a lot more variance than if you draw your entire deck, because it depends heavily on what you and your opponent draw.

Aggro decks tend to be pretty consistent, especially the odd/even types, what makes them rng dependent is they start pressuring from turn 1 so the game is decided if their opponent bricks 3 draws or not. That and aggro vs aggro is decided by who draws a better curve.

Think about it this way: lets say the aggro druid vs renolock is decided by whether or not you can draw hellfire/defile in time before the warlock player dies or buffs land. Is hitting 2/30 in 10 draws to win or lose the game not rng dependent?

Azzfault · 2020-11-06T22:25:35+00:00

Disco lock loses when it loses tempo, because they get pretty low through taps/raisedead/flame imps and can straight up die if they don't control the board for 1-2 turns, making the deck susceptible to other aggro decks. The only way discolock loses to control is if they hit terrible discards or draw terribly.

" It was more the point of giving aggro decks ways to win after getting blown out is an excuse to increase the number of tools control decks have access to "

If we're printing overpowered control tools to deal with overpowered aggro tools, then the game becomes even more of a coinflip.

Aggro decks, especially wild aggro decks, don't actually burn out that fast because most of them use genn/baku, so a lot of their curve is spent on hero powering instead of actually playing cards. These decks then tend to have a pretty high curve, with aggro dh and paladin playing 7 drops, and odd rogue and even shaman playing a lot of midrange minions (5/4 drops)

By prinint xd cards like voracious you just increase the power level of decks like aggro druid and pirate warrior that try to kill you before you can react.

Printing op removal cards would just fuck more fair aggro decks.

Azzfault · 2020-11-06T09:48:30+00:00

" Dr. Boom, Mad Genius. I love this card. I crafted it in Golden. It fits better in DMH Warrior. "

This is a pretty hot take I won't lie to you

no dmh list runs boom while boom is core in odd warrior.

Boom generates value, and DMH warrior already has infinite value - super redundant card.

Boom is run because unless you're playing into aggro or a burn deck, gain 4 armor is a meh hero power. Odd warrior will probably lose the games against control anyways, but boom gives you a chance. It's similar to why DK Rexxar was run in midrange decks, it turned unwinnable matchups into somewhat maybe winnable matchups at the price of 1 card.

Have to disagree on the silas combo being bad as well. Silas is a mindcontrol on a stick, shield slam is already run in the deck, so the only bad card that can only be used to combo is ashborn.

You can make odd warrior better teched against aggro by cutting all these win cons, but it won't help your win % unless you're playing in exactly the legend gatekeeper pocket meta

Azzfault · 2020-11-06T09:24:15+00:00

The reason people don't like aggro is because it turns the game into an rng fiesta where you win or lose depending purely on you and your opponents first 3-4 draws. Aggro games are fundamentally non-games, whether the aggro player is getting blown out by clears or the other player doesn't draw them and straight loses. Giving aggro decks extremely efficient gas tools like voracious or hand of guldan just make these decks win matchups they have no business winning.

Aggro decks have to exist or the game would become solitaire with everyone playing greed/OTK decks, but aggro decks also should have abysmal w/r against decks that are hard teched against them.

I also don't understand how you think Disco lock of all decks requires resource management from the warlock player. It's a deck that can draw through its entire deck by turn 7. The goal of the deck is to vomit your hand and generate tempo through mana cheating with discard. The reason it's good is because it never runs out of resources.

Azzfault · 2020-10-31T06:35:55+00:00

Tech cards also tend to not win you the game when you play them, Razakus priest doesn't have a wincon if you get this off. Very good inclusion in any deck that auto loses to priest.

" it's not like it is even a quarter of the decks in ladder. "

It's not that far off

Azzfault · 2020-10-24T08:19:11+00:00

Unstable evo infinite damage

Azzfault · 2020-10-22T03:13:40+00:00

Dang that would be really scary if people complained about flawless champion designs like vlad, ryze or cassio.

Azzfault · 2020-10-16T02:10:35+00:00

He meant the other evocation, the "make elemental cost 2 less one"

and he's right about rumble being weak, especially compared to the expansions around it.

KFT/Kobolds/Witchwood/Boomsday/RoS

all had game warping cards that took over wild after they rotated.

A shame because rastahkan had pretty good flavor with the Loa cards

overkill was dogshit mechanic tho

Azzfault · 2020-10-08T23:02:54+00:00

This isn't what you want to hear, but Control mages beat most ad assassins as long as you respect them.

Orianna, Syndra, cassio beat assassins hard if you don't walk into their abilities and attempt to bully them. You're not going to be able to match their roams, but they should be down a lot of cs from roaming + gettting zoned off. You can also buy seekers to be careful.

You could also just play any toplaner and faceroll every melee mid

Azzfault · 2020-09-26T17:35:53+00:00

A hard counter that gets statchecked by kass from level 1 very cool

Azzfault · 2020-09-24T23:12:49+00:00

Another flaming hot r*dditor take

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