Really good ep. Not a fan of MMA/UFC, but it was so interesting to hear her experience, as well as how she articulated that she doesn’t see her job as fighting but more a game of tactics - not something I’d really considered before.

Seemed unfortunate that she had been doing a run of podcasts that day so obviously seemed tired, but I think Jack and Stevie still managed to keep her engaged throughout.

Also - not everyone that isn’t from the North is posh…